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On Fri, 13 May 2005 00:25:03 +0100, Ray Vingnutte
wrote: On 12 May 2005 18:10:05 -0500 Dan wrote: In article , Ray Vingnutte wrote: Um, sorry, but a website is not convincing evidence. It looks like tinfoil hat stuff to me. Looking at the list of newsgroups this post is going to, I can see that's all it is. You could always put words like, hijack, president, nuclear, etc etc in a mock email to a friend or someone making it sound like a real and genuine threat and see if anything happens to you ;-) I have. Nothing happens. This story first appeared in the 80's, only then it was "they monitored all phone conversations" for such words. We used to say things like assassinate, President, conspiracy, explosives, etc. etc. on the phone all the time. Nothing ever happened. How do you know nothing happened, all you can possibly think you know is that no one took any interest perhaps, decided you weren't worth a visit or follow up ;-) Echelon manages to spy on anyone they chose, perchance why was it that 'national security' at the NSA/Echelon did noting about 911. Would it have something to do with Dick Cheney's wife being on the board of directors of Lockheed, or that The British Throne owns Lockheed? That was in the 80's and not in the paranoid early 00's. I can believe they may do it for big bucks business or government contracts as in a way that would make sense to do it. Collecting masses of information on the whole populace is another matter. Dan |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 23:30:18 GMT
"hi ho, hi ho" wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2005 00:25:03 +0100, Ray Vingnutte wrote: On 12 May 2005 18:10:05 -0500 Dan wrote: In article , Ray Vingnutte wrote: Um, sorry, but a website is not convincing evidence. It looks like tinfoil hat stuff to me. Looking at the list of newsgroups this post is going to, I can see that's all it is. You could always put words like, hijack, president, nuclear, etc etc in a mock email to a friend or someone making it sound like a real and genuine threat and see if anything happens to you ;-) I have. Nothing happens. This story first appeared in the 80's, only then it was "they monitored all phone conversations" for such words. We used to say things like assassinate, President, conspiracy, explosives, etc. etc. on the phone all the time. Nothing ever happened. How do you know nothing happened, all you can possibly think you know is that no one took any interest perhaps, decided you weren't worth a visit or follow up ;-) Echelon manages to spy on anyone they chose, perchance why was it that 'national security' at the NSA/Echelon did noting about 911. I may be wrong but did I not see someone(don't ask me who I can't remember) but someone high up say yes mistakes were made, but then with hindsight that can apply to almost anything. And if they really do store and save as much as they can then most of that info will only likely be of use in a retrospective way anyway. Would it have something to do with Dick Cheney's wife being on the board of directors of Lockheed, or that The British Throne owns Lockheed? Couldn't possibly comment ;-) I have no idea what you're on about there. That was in the 80's and not in the paranoid early 00's. I can believe they may do it for big bucks business or government contracts as in a way that would make sense to do it. Collecting masses of information on the whole populace is another matter. Dan |
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 01:30:47 +0100, Ray Vingnutte
wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2005 23:30:18 GMT "hi ho, hi ho" wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2005 00:25:03 +0100, Ray Vingnutte wrote: On 12 May 2005 18:10:05 -0500 Dan wrote: In article , Ray Vingnutte wrote: Um, sorry, but a website is not convincing evidence. It looks like tinfoil hat stuff to me. Looking at the list of newsgroups this post is going to, I can see that's all it is. You could always put words like, hijack, president, nuclear, etc etc in a mock email to a friend or someone making it sound like a real and genuine threat and see if anything happens to you ;-) I have. Nothing happens. This story first appeared in the 80's, only then it was "they monitored all phone conversations" for such words. We used to say things like assassinate, President, conspiracy, explosives, etc. etc. on the phone all the time. Nothing ever happened. How do you know nothing happened, all you can possibly think you know is that no one took any interest perhaps, decided you weren't worth a visit or follow up ;-) Echelon manages to spy on anyone they chose, perchance why was it that 'national security' at the NSA/Echelon did noting about 911. I may be wrong but did I not see someone(don't ask me who I can't remember) but someone high up say yes mistakes were made, but then with hindsight that can apply to almost anything. How precisely is Dick Cheney, The Secret Service and the CIA attacking the USA a mistake? And if they really do store and save as much as they can then most of that info will only likely be of use in a retrospective way anyway. Would it have something to do with Dick Cheney's wife being on the board of directors of Lockheed, or that The British Throne owns Lockheed? Couldn't possibly comment ;-) I have no idea what you're on about there. Everyone in the world knows, except those living under a rock. Of course Dick and the CIA require a lot of lap dog traitors to keep covering up for them. That was in the 80's and not in the paranoid early 00's. I can believe they may do it for big bucks business or government contracts as in a way that would make sense to do it. Collecting masses of information on the whole populace is another matter. Dan |
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:29:18 -0600, Art Deco wrote:
Echelon is owned by the Rothschilds. Exposing the Global Surveillance System - http://mediafilter.org/echelon/ Exposing the Global Surveillance System - http://www.ncoic.com/echelon1.htm Exposing the Global Surveillance System - http://www.hamradio-online.com/1996/dec/echelon.html |
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