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Old May 4th 05, 10:54 AM
newedana
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Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator
were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934. These atomic
models are imperfect and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum
in addition to their numerous fallacies. However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.

The wavelength of all 6 sets of hydrogen spectra, Humprey, Pfund,
Brackett, Ritz-Paschen, Balmer, and Lyman, calculated by Dr. Hansik
Yoon's formula surprisingly coincided with the experimentally observed
ones. Of course, Dr. Yoon didn't use such unscientific models as QM or
relativity in this calculation. Moreover, his formula estimated
(predicted) other wavelengths not yet observed up to the time. For
example, in the case of Ritz-Paschen series, the estimated wavelengths
were 8201.40 Angstrom,... 8860.40, 9012.5, 9226.6, 9545.97(*),
10049.4(*), 10938.1(*), 12818.1(*), etc. Here, wavelengths with (*)
symbol have been experimentally observed up to the time. In the case of
Lyman series, 911.269A,... 926.226(*), 930.748(*), 937.803(*),
949.743(*), 972.537(*), 1025.722(*), 1215.668(*). If someone already
observed the wavelengths without (*) symbol, try to observe the Pfund
series, 22781.2A, ... 28714.5, 3.375.6, 32952.1, 37385.4, 46525.1(*),
74578.0(*) etc. According to Dr. Yoon's theory on the hydrogen
spectrum, for Lyman series the bombarding electrons must have a
frequency of longitudinal oscillation resonant to the frequency of
'orbital electron rings' with radial parameter gamma= 1 in order them
to oscillate without destructing it. The energy capacity of orbital
electron ring with radial parameter gamma = 1 that emits Lyman series
of hydrogen spectrum is at least 1295 times greater than the electron
ring with radial parameter gamma=6 that emits Humphrey series. This is
just an example of scientific facts among many breakthroughs in Dr.
Yoon's book.

Dr. Yoon also proved that the light is not a flow of photons in Part
II, Chapter 5(www.yoonsatom.net).
Many people seem to be very ignorant of the breadth and depth of Dr.
Yoon's new physics, at these days. newedana wrote what learned from Dr.
Yoon's "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model".

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Old May 4th 05, 12:30 PM
Bjoern Feuerbacher
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newedana wrote:
Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator


Why exactly are these "primitive"?


were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934.


Indeed. So what?


These atomic models are imperfect


You are right: Bohr's atomic model is imperfect. Hint: that's why
it hasn't been used for about 80 years.


and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum


Indeed. Hint: that's why it hasn't been used for about 80 years.

in addition to their numerous fallacies.


For example?


However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.

The wavelength of all 6 sets of hydrogen spectra, Humprey, Pfund,
Brackett, Ritz-Paschen, Balmer, and Lyman, calculated by Dr. Hansik
Yoon's formula surprisingly coincided with the experimentally observed
ones.


Please give the formula and tell us how it was derived.


Of course, Dr. Yoon didn't use such unscientific models as QM or
relativity in this calculation.


Why are these unscientific?


Moreover, his formula estimated
(predicted) other wavelengths not yet observed up to the time.


ROTFL!

Hint: if a model predicts something which is not observed, the model
is in deep trouble.


For example, in the case of Ritz-Paschen series, the estimated wavelengths
were 8201.40 Angstrom,... 8860.40, 9012.5, 9226.6, 9545.97(*),
10049.4(*), 10938.1(*), 12818.1(*), etc. Here, wavelengths with (*)
symbol have been experimentally observed up to the time. In the case of
Lyman series, 911.269A,... 926.226(*), 930.748(*), 937.803(*),
949.743(*), 972.537(*), 1025.722(*), 1215.668(*). If someone already
observed the wavelengths without (*) symbol, try to observe the Pfund
series, 22781.2A, ... 28714.5, 3.375.6, 32952.1, 37385.4, 46525.1(*),
74578.0(*) etc. According to Dr. Yoon's theory on the hydrogen
spectrum, for Lyman series the bombarding electrons


What bombarding electrons???


must have a
frequency of longitudinal oscillation resonant to the frequency of
'orbital electron rings' with radial parameter gamma= 1 in order them
to oscillate without destructing it. The energy capacity of orbital
electron ring with radial parameter gamma = 1 that emits Lyman series
of hydrogen spectrum is at least 1295 times greater than the electron
ring with radial parameter gamma=6 that emits Humphrey series. This is
just an example of scientific facts among many breakthroughs in Dr.
Yoon's book.


Try to understand the difference between "fact" and "unsupported
assertion".


Dr. Yoon also proved that the light is not a flow of photons in Part
II, Chapter 5(www.yoonsatom.net).


And how exactly did he do that?


Many people seem to be very ignorant of the breadth and depth of Dr.
Yoon's new physics, at these days. newedana wrote what learned from Dr.
Yoon's "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model".


But we are wekk aware of his arrogance, ignorance, and refusal to deal
with the evidence.


Bye,
Bjoern

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Old May 4th 05, 09:11 PM
Bilge
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newedana:
Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator
were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934. These atomic
models are imperfect and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum
in addition to their numerous fallacies.


Well, let's see - the bohr model is about 95 years old and was replaced
almost 95 years ago by the bohr-sommerfeld model, which was replaced
almost 80 years ago by quantum mechanics and refined about 75 years ago by
dirac's theory. Why would you expect an alternative to the bohr model to
be of any interest? Aside from your misguided notions of ``primative,''
why would you expect the harmonic oscillator to be a model of the hydrogen
atom? The potential for the harmonic oscillator is proportional to r^2.
The coulomb potential is proportional to 1/r. Does that look the same to
you?

However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.


Why, is he analyzing the hydrogen atom using qed? If not,
what does he predict for the 2s - 1s transition rate?
How about the lamb shift? Qute honestly, if you are having to
create strawmen from a theory that outlived its purpose before
1920 and a theory which isn't even applicable to the question,
to peddle your alternative, you should quit before you get
further behind.


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Old May 4th 05, 09:18 PM
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Old May 4th 05, 11:36 PM
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"newedana" wrote in message
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Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator
were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934.


And have long since been replaced by QM and later QFT.

These atomic
models are imperfect and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum
in addition to their numerous fallacies.


Which is why they were replaced.

However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.


Does it use QFT? If not in what way is it better than QFT?

Bill


The wavelength of all 6 sets of hydrogen spectra, Humprey, Pfund,
Brackett, Ritz-Paschen, Balmer, and Lyman, calculated by Dr. Hansik
Yoon's formula surprisingly coincided with the experimentally observed
ones. Of course, Dr. Yoon didn't use such unscientific models as QM or
relativity in this calculation. Moreover, his formula estimated
(predicted) other wavelengths not yet observed up to the time. For
example, in the case of Ritz-Paschen series, the estimated wavelengths
were 8201.40 Angstrom,... 8860.40, 9012.5, 9226.6, 9545.97(*),
10049.4(*), 10938.1(*), 12818.1(*), etc. Here, wavelengths with (*)
symbol have been experimentally observed up to the time. In the case of
Lyman series, 911.269A,... 926.226(*), 930.748(*), 937.803(*),
949.743(*), 972.537(*), 1025.722(*), 1215.668(*). If someone already
observed the wavelengths without (*) symbol, try to observe the Pfund
series, 22781.2A, ... 28714.5, 3.375.6, 32952.1, 37385.4, 46525.1(*),
74578.0(*) etc. According to Dr. Yoon's theory on the hydrogen
spectrum, for Lyman series the bombarding electrons must have a
frequency of longitudinal oscillation resonant to the frequency of
'orbital electron rings' with radial parameter gamma= 1 in order them
to oscillate without destructing it. The energy capacity of orbital
electron ring with radial parameter gamma = 1 that emits Lyman series
of hydrogen spectrum is at least 1295 times greater than the electron
ring with radial parameter gamma=6 that emits Humphrey series. This is
just an example of scientific facts among many breakthroughs in Dr.
Yoon's book.

Dr. Yoon also proved that the light is not a flow of photons in Part
II, Chapter 5(www.yoonsatom.net).
Many people seem to be very ignorant of the breadth and depth of Dr.
Yoon's new physics, at these days. newedana wrote what learned from Dr.
Yoon's "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model".



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Old May 5th 05, 12:24 AM
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In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics, "If we arrange these 6 sets
of hydrogen spectra on an energy scale based on their wavelengths, we
find an energy interval between each set of these spectral series, as
shown in Fig.5-5-1, and table 5-2 (a map of spectral series). It
signifies that there exists an energy gap(barrier) between each set of
spectra. The largest energy gap is found between Lyman and Balmer
series, the secondary larger gab is between Balmer and Ritz-Paschen
series and no energy gap between Ritz-Paschen and Brackett series.
After Brackett series, we find that their spectral series turn out to
overlap with one another, and the overlapping zone becomes
progressively broader and broader".
He explains for this finding that when the radius of orbital electron
ring expands to be out of the size of emitting Ritz-Paschen and
Brackett series, it can take up electromagnetic radiations without
frequency choice. That is why the spectra emitted by these orbital
electron rings has like a continuous pattern, and any kind of mass
bodies can takes up heat radiation without wavelength choice. He
explains further that as the orbital electron ring shrinks to be
shorter and shorter in reverse, the energy gap increases to be greater
and greater to be reciprocally in proportional to 4 powers of its
radius, and it takes up radiation energy selectively by frequency
choice. It is concerned to directly to black body radiation. And that
is why orbital electron ring becomes increasingly difficult to approach
its nucleus. He assumed that this energy barrier originates to the
restructuring the texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes
produced by orbital electron rings, as it changes its orbital radius;
the shorter the radius of electron ring the greater the energy input
for the restructuring its electromagnetic force fluxes. When the shrunk
orbital electron ring expands its radius it has to emit reversely this
energy it absorbed. This fact is closely related with atomic fission
and fusion energy. Atomic energy has nothing to do with the stupid
equation, E=mc^2.

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Old May 5th 05, 02:27 AM
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"newedana" wrote in message
ups.com...
In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics, "If we arrange these 6 sets

of hydrogen spectra on an energy scale based on their wavelengths, we
find an energy interval between each set of these spectral series, as
shown in Fig.5-5-1, and table 5-2 (a map of spectral series). It
signifies that there exists an energy gap(barrier) between each set of
spectra. The largest energy gap is found between Lyman and Balmer
series, the secondary larger gab is between Balmer and Ritz-Paschen
series and no energy gap between Ritz-Paschen and Brackett series.
After Brackett series, we find that their spectral series turn out to
overlap with one another, and the overlapping zone becomes
progressively broader and broader".
He explains for this finding that when the radius of orbital electron
ring expands to be out of the size of emitting Ritz-Paschen and
Brackett series, it can take up electromagnetic radiations without
frequency choice. That is why the spectra emitted by these orbital
electron rings has like a continuous pattern, and any kind of mass
bodies can takes up heat radiation without wavelength choice. He
explains further that as the orbital electron ring shrinks to be
shorter and shorter in reverse, the energy gap increases to be greater
and greater to be reciprocally in proportional to 4 powers of its
radius, and it takes up radiation energy selectively by frequency
choice. It is concerned to directly to black body radiation. And that
is why orbital electron ring becomes increasingly difficult to approach
its nucleus. He assumed that this energy barrier originates to the
restructuring the texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes
produced by orbital electron rings,


'texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes'? When you can express your
ideas coherently then we may have something to discuss.

Bill

as it changes its orbital radius;
the shorter the radius of electron ring the greater the energy input
for the restructuring its electromagnetic force fluxes. When the shrunk
orbital electron ring expands its radius it has to emit reversely this
energy it absorbed. This fact is closely related with atomic fission
and fusion energy. Atomic energy has nothing to do with the stupid
equation, E=mc^2.



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Old May 5th 05, 02:40 AM
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newedana wrote:

In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics,

[snip crap]

Purest bull****. Crap spewing like a fountain.

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Old May 5th 05, 03:03 PM
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In article ,
Uncle Al wrote:
newedana wrote:

In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics,

[snip crap]

Purest bull****. Crap spewing like a fountain.


Yoon flushed a cherry bomb.


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with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not advance
our knowledge." -- J. Black, 1803.
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Old May 6th 05, 03:42 AM
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Nobody wants to talk physics with him, he is lonely so he is at least
posting his blather here. You can find crackpot theorist in every
field. Have compassion - he may not understand how science works but at
least he is not a pompous cheat like Dr.Taj-Mahal. Let him go on with
his yoony mission and maybe one day he will prevail, uncovering this
huge conspiracy in physics.

 




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