CFI: Canonical List of Sci-Fi "Real" Astronauts

....After exchanging a couple of e-mails with Mark Wade over an
addition I think needs to be made to the "Phantom Astronauts" page on
EA, I've suddenly come up with an idea for a "Canonical List" of said
Phantoms. However, since most of my time these days is spent at my
60+hour/week job, I've decided to put out a Call For Input here on the
group to see what can be dredged up. Here's the criteria:

1) As we're looking at fictional characters from "real" history, each
Phantom Astronaut must have had his/her/its career rooted in an AH
timeline where history doesn't deviate too drastically. Think how
Baxter's characters in _Voyage_, or Majors Nelson and Healey existed
in a world that wasn't that different from ours. Ergo, Warren "I'm A
Limey Egotistical ****wit!" Ellis' _Ministry Of Space_ characters
wouldn't count, but I would consider the crew of the Scorpio I, and
quite possibly four key members of the Richards Rocket Group.

2) Characters can come from TV, film, books, comics or even the
theater.

3) We're shooting for relatively well to moderately known characters.
The obscure ones we might consider, depending on background.

4) The time frame we're looking at is from 1957 up through whatever
years "The Cape" would have covered (*). Again, as close to OTL as
possible.

(*) Hmm. Must remember to put a request for a posting of that series
up on one of the binary groups :-P

5) Finally, some background about each PA's career should be included,
as well as a link to a photo if available.

....Off the top of my head, here's who come to mind as being
candidates:

Jose Jimenez

"Major Matt Mason"
Major Matt Mason
Sgt. Storm
Lt. Doug Davis

"I Dream Of Jeannie"
Major Anthony Nelson
Major Roger Healey

"The Reluctant Astronaut"
Astro-Janitor Roy Flemming
Major Fred Gifford

"It's About Time!"
Mac (Captain of the Scorpio I)
Hector (Co-Pilot of the Scorpio I)

"Countdown"
Lee Stegler (Pilot of Pilgrim)
Chiz (Stegler's Backup)
Rick (Apollo 3 CMP w/Stegler & Chiz)

"Marooned"
Jim Pruett (Ironman I CDR)
Clayton Stone (Ironman I SCI)
Buzz Lloyd (Ironman I CMP)
Ted Dougherty (Chief Astronaut/XRV Pilot)

Nathaniel Adam (Pre-Crisis Captain Atom)
Col. Steve Austin (Apollo 18 CDR, HL-10 Pilot)
Col. John Jameson (MA-11, saved by Spider-Wimp)

"The Fantastic Four (1961)
Reed Richards
Susan Storm
Johnny Storm
Benjamin Jacob Grimm

"Sol" and his CDR, crew of the mission that went over Gilligan's
Island during the first season
Col. Brice Randolph (The replacement in "The Astronaut")
Capt. Spurgeon 'Fish' Tanner ("Deep Impact")

"Space"
John Pope
Randy Claggett

"Voyage!"
Joe Muldoon
Chuck Jones
Jim Dana
Roger Gershon
Natalie Reed

"Prospero One"
Geoff Lighthill
Roly Gough

The crew at The Cape:
Col. Henry 'Bull' Eckert
Col. Jack Riles

Team Dadaelus:
Dr. Frank Corvin
Col. William 'Hawk' Hawkins
Jerry O'Neill
Rev. Tank Sullivan

Maurice Minnifield (Retired and Exposed up North)
Spencer Armacoust (The Astronaut's Wife's Husband)
Captain William "Buck" Rogers (Gil Gerard version)

"Capricorn One"
Col. Charles Brubaker (CDR, Capricorn One)
Cmdr. John Walker (Wide Receiver, Capricorn One)
Lt. Col. Peter Willis (CMP, Capricorn One)

Doctor Ted Nelson (The Incredible Melting Man!)
Col. Jason Grant (Walter Koenig in "Moontrap")

"Salvage One"
Harry Broderick
Skip Carmichael
Melanie Slozar

"Space Camp"
Andie Bergstrom
Cmdr. Zach Bergstrom

"Stoaway to the Moon"
Captain Rick Lawrence
Ben Pelham
Dave Anderson

Neil Stryker ("The Stranger")

"Way, Way Out!"
Pete Mattemore
Igor


OM

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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
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I didn't see this below:

Shaun Geoffry, son of Captain John Christopher.

We don't know much abuot Mr. Geoffry other than he lead the historic first
Earth-Saturn Mission in the Star Trek Time line.

Given he wasn't conceived in 1969 though, his birth may put him outside of
your required timeline.

Jose Jimenez

"Major Matt Mason"
Major Matt Mason
Sgt. Storm
Lt. Doug Davis

"I Dream Of Jeannie"
Major Anthony Nelson
Major Roger Healey

"The Reluctant Astronaut"
Astro-Janitor Roy Flemming
Major Fred Gifford

"It's About Time!"
Mac (Captain of the Scorpio I)
Hector (Co-Pilot of the Scorpio I)

"Countdown"
Lee Stegler (Pilot of Pilgrim)
Chiz (Stegler's Backup)
Rick (Apollo 3 CMP w/Stegler & Chiz)

"Marooned"
Jim Pruett (Ironman I CDR)
Clayton Stone (Ironman I SCI)
Buzz Lloyd (Ironman I CMP)
Ted Dougherty (Chief Astronaut/XRV Pilot)

Nathaniel Adam (Pre-Crisis Captain Atom)
Col. Steve Austin (Apollo 18 CDR, HL-10 Pilot)
Col. John Jameson (MA-11, saved by Spider-Wimp)

"The Fantastic Four (1961)
Reed Richards
Susan Storm
Johnny Storm
Benjamin Jacob Grimm

"Sol" and his CDR, crew of the mission that went over Gilligan's
Island during the first season
Col. Brice Randolph (The replacement in "The Astronaut")
Capt. Spurgeon 'Fish' Tanner ("Deep Impact")

"Space"
John Pope
Randy Claggett

"Voyage!"
Joe Muldoon
Chuck Jones
Jim Dana
Roger Gershon
Natalie Reed

"Prospero One"
Geoff Lighthill
Roly Gough

The crew at The Cape:
Col. Henry 'Bull' Eckert
Col. Jack Riles

Team Dadaelus:
Dr. Frank Corvin
Col. William 'Hawk' Hawkins
Jerry O'Neill
Rev. Tank Sullivan

Maurice Minnifield (Retired and Exposed up North)
Spencer Armacoust (The Astronaut's Wife's Husband)
Captain William "Buck" Rogers (Gil Gerard version)

"Capricorn One"
Col. Charles Brubaker (CDR, Capricorn One)
Cmdr. John Walker (Wide Receiver, Capricorn One)
Lt. Col. Peter Willis (CMP, Capricorn One)

Doctor Ted Nelson (The Incredible Melting Man!)
Col. Jason Grant (Walter Koenig in "Moontrap")

"Salvage One"
Harry Broderick
Skip Carmichael
Melanie Slozar

"Space Camp"
Andie Bergstrom
Cmdr. Zach Bergstrom

"Stoaway to the Moon"
Captain Rick Lawrence
Ben Pelham
Dave Anderson

Neil Stryker ("The Stranger")

"Way, Way Out!"
Pete Mattemore
Igor


OM

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In the novel "Cyborg," Colonel Steve Austin was not commander of Apollo 18. He
was backup LM pilot for Apollo 17, and went to the moon because the prime
conveniently broke his arm a few weeks before launch.

No word on what Jack Schmitt thought of this plot device.


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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:58:04 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:

We don't know much abuot Mr. Geoffry other than he lead the historic first
Earth-Saturn Mission in the Star Trek Time line.

....Yeah, and then there's the big question of *when* he made the
flight, which depends on how old he was at the time, and when he was
actually born.

Given he wasn't conceived in 1969 though, his birth may put him outside of
your required timeline.

....I've considered both him and the Mars pilot who got sucked into
that subspace blob, simply because there's nothing that has either of
them being from some "Rocky Jones" ATL.

OM

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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
in message ...
...After exchanging a couple of e-mails with Mark Wade over an
addition I think needs to be made to the "Phantom Astronauts" page on
EA, I've suddenly come up with an idea for a "Canonical List" of said
Phantoms. However, since most of my time these days is spent at my
60+hour/week job, I've decided to put out a Call For Input here on the
group to see what can be dredged up. Here's the criteria:

OM

Let's see, here are a few that likely "miss"; via your rule # 1
(but history may yet redeem us)

Planet of the Apes series
==================
Planet of the Apes (1968 version)
Cmdr. George Taylor
Astronaut Dodge
Astronaut Landon
Astronaut Stewart (dies during 6 month voyage)

Beneath Planet of the Apes (1970)
Capt. Maddox (dies at crash landing site)
Astronaut Brent

Planet of the Apes (2001 version)
Captain Leo Davidson (Mark Wahlberg's character)

Star Trek series
(all series and movies)
================
Star Trek Voyager (episode "One Small Step")
Lt. John Kelly (Ares IV at Mars)
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...de/108170.html

Star Trek - Original Series - (episode Tomorrow is Yesterday)
Captain John Christopher (accidental 1960s astronaut)

===========================================
These are much closer for consideration, but likely still miss on rule # 1:
James Bond "007" series of movies

Moonraker (1979)
James Bond (of course)
Dr. Holly Goodhead
Colonel Scott

I have not even looked into the related 1960 spy series copies
(Matt Helm, Secret Agent Man, I, Spy, etc.)


gb

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:59:42 GMT, "w9gb"
wrote:

"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
in message ...
...After exchanging a couple of e-mails with Mark Wade over an
addition I think needs to be made to the "Phantom Astronauts" page on
EA, I've suddenly come up with an idea for a "Canonical List" of said
Phantoms. However, since most of my time these days is spent at my
60+hour/week job, I've decided to put out a Call For Input here on the
group to see what can be dredged up. Here's the criteria:

OM

Let's see, here are a few that likely "miss"; via your rule # 1
(but history may yet redeem us)

Planet of the Apes series

BZZZT!

....Yeah, I ruled them out from the git-go. Something about that FTL
Icarus and the "ANSA" logo that blows it for them.

Beneath Planet of the Apes (1970)
Capt. Maddox (dies at crash landing site)

...."Skipper's" last name was never confirmed save for a snipped line
in a later draft script.

Astronaut Brent

....First name John.

Star Trek series
(all series and movies)

....Sean Geoffrey Christopher is the only one that comes to mind as
being a possibility.

Lt. John Kelly (Ares IV at Mars)
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...de/108170.html

....Yeah, him I'll consider strongly.

James Bond "007" series of movies

Moonraker (1979)
James Bond (of course)
Dr. Holly Goodhead
Colonel Scott

....Also, the Astros and Cosmos who were intercepted in space by that
SSTO SPECTRE ship.

I have not even looked into the related 1960 spy series copies
(Matt Helm, Secret Agent Man, I, Spy, etc.)

....The two cosmobimbos from "In Like Flint" I'll consider, because if
I don't Pat will sic his Fire Women on me :-)


OM

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OM wrote:

...The two cosmobimbos from "In Like Flint" I'll consider, because if
I don't Pat will sic his Fire Women on me :-)


What were the names of the two Russian cosmonauts that landed on
Gilligan's Island?
If it helps, episode 45: "Nyet, Nyet- Not Yet".

Pat

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om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org writes
...After exchanging a couple of e-mails with Mark Wade over an
addition I think needs to be made to the "Phantom Astronauts" page on
EA, I've suddenly come up with an idea for a "Canonical List" of said
Phantoms. However, since most of my time these days is spent at my
60+hour/week job, I've decided to put out a Call For Input here on the
group to see what can be dredged up. Here's the criteria:

1) As we're looking at fictional characters from "real" history, each
Phantom Astronaut must have had his/her/its career rooted in an AH
timeline where history doesn't deviate too drastically. Think how
Baxter's characters in _Voyage_, or Majors Nelson and Healey existed
in a world that wasn't that different from ours.

Here's the crew of the Endeavour from "Encounter with Tiber".

Lori Kirsten, commander
Henry Janesh, pilot
Chris Terence, mission specialist 1
Dirk Rodriguez, mission specialist
Sharon Goldman, mission specialist
Harold Spearman, mission specialist
J T Murphy, mission specialist

Do Frank Poole and David Bowman qualify?

Lt. Col. Joseph Faulk, U.S. Marines, from Jeff Sutton's "Apollo at Go".

The astronauts in Jacob Hay & John M.Keshishian's "Death Of A Cosmonaut"
(I must buy a copy !)

John Mason and Larry Carter from Wernher von Braun's "First Men to the
Moon" (a bit obscure, but I found it on Saturday! My edition doesn't
have these pictures, though http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~jsisson/fmtm.htm)
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On 2004-11-17, Jonathan Silverlight wrote:

Do Frank Poole and David Bowman qualify?

Plus all the various others who flew in space in the film, although they
may not be classed as "astronauts" in context.

The three in suspended animation were Hunter, Whitehead & Kaminski.

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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:25:56 +0000, Jonathan Silverlight
wrote:

Here's the crew of the Endeavour from "Encounter with Tiber".

Lori Kirsten, commander
Henry Janesh, pilot
Chris Terence, mission specialist 1
Dirk Rodriguez, mission specialist
Sharon Goldman, mission specialist
Harold Spearman, mission specialist
J T Murphy, mission specialist

....I need to read that one eventually.

Do Frank Poole and David Bowman qualify?

....I've really been handwringing about this one, and right now I have
to say no. Simply because I'm trying to keep this in "reality"
perspective. "2001" was far beyond what really happened, and in
retrospect far above what we really could have achieved had we gone
that route, at least within that time frame.

Lt. Col. Joseph Faulk, U.S. Marines, from Jeff Sutton's "Apollo at Go".

....I haven't read that one in years!

The astronauts in Jacob Hay & John M.Keshishian's "Death Of A Cosmonaut"
(I must buy a copy !)

....Names and they should be added, natch. Ditto for _The Pilgrim
Project_

John Mason and Larry Carter from Wernher von Braun's "First Men to the
Moon" (a bit obscure, but I found it on Saturday! My edition doesn't
have these pictures, though http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~jsisson/fmtm.htm)

....Ditto.

OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr