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Old December 27th 04, 05:46 PM
Angelo Campanella
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Default Two Hubble objects 0828 and MyCn18; what are they?

Luigi Caselli wrote:
HiDouble-A I remember one of my "What if" I posted about a year ago
hit upon this. I like when my thinking comes around over time.
Very pretty picture. Bert


starlord wrote:
" Black Holes don't "Blow up" they just keep pulling matter in and
growing in size, just like the super massive one that's at the core of
our Galaxy. Most likely that either a super hot star that has blown off
the other layers of itself, or it's the first shock wave of a new stars
first stellar winds blowing out."
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my (AJC) 2 cents:
The existing 'popular' concept of black hole* is that they are all
a one-way ticket. I don't subscribe to that completely. For the same
reason that Einstein did not stop with the special theory of relativity.

Well, I have a different picture, a different object, with a different
connotation. A few years ago, I cam across this object on the internet.
I have had no success in in getting any information on it whatsoever.

http://home.att.net/~a.campanella/hu...ula_0828_f.jpg

Later, I came across another picture, not a whole lot different, of an
object called MyCn18 which looks like another one of "them".

I reproduce it as

http://home.att.net/~a.campanella/HubbleMyCn18.jpg

That newspaper article called it :

"..a young planetary nebula, 8,000 light years away, photo'd by Hubbell,
1996."

It sure looks like a heckuva explosion to me. More history (its
technical progenesis) would be nice.

What is the "planetary" aspect; I can't see any in either photo.

Considering both photos, what are we really looking at?
How did it get that way.
Was it a black hole that blew up?

more 2 cents:

In analyzing HN-828, a reality check will help. The reality check
being the step of eliminating the possibility that it is just a man-made
space shot such as a chemical or nuclear explosion for entertainment or
military exercise purposes. Notwithstanding that, this is no reason to
stop conjecturing about the future of black holes.

*My theory, approximate and highly speculative at the moment, is
that material within black hole must eventually get a return ticket back
out when conditions right. For instance, suppose a ball of core material
gets up a speed run where it achieves 75% the speed of light, and
suppose the velocity factor for light within the ball itself is 67%
(common for, say, polyethylene cable core material and glass for
instance). Here you have achieved o.75c heading out, and the speed of
light inside the same material is o.67c, using the ball as a frame of
reference. The sum is greater that 1.0c, so something unusual should happen.

Anyway, presuming on the other hand that neither HN-828 nor HMC18
is a black hole blowing up, we could consider it to be a conventional
late life white dwarf or the like. I can imagine the situation whe

1-The star material has achieved a high speed spin from the angular
momentum accumulated from all the past material accreted from distant
matter over a period of time,

2- This momentum is now all possessed by the intermediate material, also
having charge, arranged now as a sleeve,

3- This rotating sleeve of ions creates magnet; the field of which is a
strong dipole, and that

3- Any other moving charged material is obliged to proceed only along
the axis of this dipole, and that

4- Explosive forces are later added, such as accumulation of hydrogen
culminating in a fusion ball that must expand soon.

5- The resulting explosion then forms the dumbbell shape shown in
Hubbell Nebula 0828!

This could even be a black hole acting as a clearing house for
debris intercepted along the way. The black hole being a permanent
processing plant while the intercepted material has a trip in, and by
virtue of its transitional momentum being conserved, also a ticket for
the way out!

Any ideas?

Comments?


Angelo Campanella

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