"metals"

Hi All

When an astronomer/astrophysicist uses the word "metals" he/she is referring
to the group of all elements other than H and He.

Does anyone know the etymology of this particular use of the word "metals"?

Thanks

John Zinni (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
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Hi All

When an astronomer/astrophysicist uses the word "metals" he/she is
referring to the group of all elements other than H and He.

Does anyone know the etymology of this particular use of the word
"metals"?

Thanks

Most of the elements with Z2 are metals. Astrophysicists might have begun
by saying "metals and heavier non-metals" and the expression gradually got
chopped to its first word.
--
Paul Townsend
Pair them off into threes

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In article ,
"John Zinni" writes:
When an astronomer/astrophysicist uses the word "metals" he/she is referring
to the group of all elements other than H and He.

That would be my first thought, but I might decide otherwise in some
particular context.

Sorry... can't help with the etymology. I'd expect it to be fairly
recent, though, because only in the 1930's was it realized that the
Universe is mostly hydrogen and helium.

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(Steve Willner) writes:

In article ,
"John Zinni" writes:
When an astronomer/astrophysicist uses the word "metals" he/she is referring
to the group of all elements other than H and He.

That would be my first thought, but I might decide otherwise in some
particular context.

Sorry... can't help with the etymology. I'd expect it to be fairly
recent, though, because only in the 1930's was it realized that the
Universe is mostly hydrogen and helium.

Under sufficient pressure, some things you wouldn't think of as metals
apparently become metals. I think hydrogen is an example, but more recently
oxygen under pressure was shown to become a red metal and, under even more
pressure, became superconducting. I think the pressure was in the range
of 100 gigapascals. I read about it in Science News.
--
Ignorantly,
Allan Adler
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