Orion's answer on optics pinch in ED80

This would suggest that:
1. The problem is not widespread.
or
2. People are using this scope for imaging or
widefield deepsky observing.
or
3. They have not had the scope out in cold weather enough to
notice it.

However, since the lenses and cells are made the same way, I expect
this to crop up more than it has to this point.

One person had the cell milled out 6/1000 and this noticeably
minimized the problem. This would indicate the tightness of the
cell is the problem.

Since it's warrantied, I'm going to test mine a bit more before
sending it back. Or I might just have the cell milled out since
anything they send would have the same dimensions as what I'm now
using.

From Orion:

Thanks for the email to Orion. I've not heard of a pinched optics
problem
with the ED-80 so, regrettably, I have no immediate suggestions for
you.
This is the type of thing that should be covered under warranty. We
would,
however, require that it come back to us for warranty evaluation. If
it was
purchased from us directly we would of course have the proof of
purchase.
If it was purchased from one of our Authorized Dealers then a copy of
the
sales slip would be required. Let us know if we can be of further
assistance.

Clear Skies,

Orion Technical Support

"RichA" wrote in message
...
This would suggest that:
1. The problem is not widespread.

Rich,

Where are you finding these pinched optics reports?

Ed T.

"Ed T" wrote in message
k.net...

"RichA" wrote in message
...
This would suggest that:
1. The problem is not widespread.

Rich,

Where are you finding these pinched optics reports?

Rich is the optics equivalent of a racist. He hates little refractors that
cost more per inch than other scope designs (and the people who make them).
With that, he doesn't need accuracy in his posts about the optics or the
people who make them --- just wording that stirs things up.

Hmm, that sounds like something that rhymes with droll...

Clear Skies

Chuck Taylor
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Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/
And the Lunar Picture of the Day http://www.lpod.org/
************************************


Ed T.

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:41:12 -0800, "CLT" not@thisaddress wrote:

"Ed T" wrote in message
nk.net...

"RichA" wrote in message
...
This would suggest that:
1. The problem is not widespread.

Rich,

Where are you finding these pinched optics reports?

Rich is the optics equivalent of a racist. He hates little refractors that
cost more per inch than other scope designs (and the people who make them).
With that, he doesn't need accuracy in his posts about the optics or the
people who make them --- just wording that stirs things up.

Hmm, that sounds like something that rhymes with droll...

Clear Skies

I already cited that there were only two reports, one from me and one
from another person. I gave the source for the other report.
Idiot.
-Rich

Chuck Taylor
Do you observe the moon?
Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/
And the Lunar Picture of the Day http://www.lpod.org/
************************************


Ed T.

There is only one, on the Orion ED yahoo group.

Then WHY all these posts? If it's only ONE example you know of, why then go
around spreading rumors about pinched optic in the ED80??!

Do you have no moral or ethics?

Pete


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There is only one, on the Orion ED yahoo group.

Btw, in another post you state that
"On a couple of occassions I've seen pinched optics
in this scope".
Then why only state one example here?

You clearly are not mentally well. Hope you get well soon, and in the
meantime, please stay away from here, or at least moderate your posting, and
try going outside the house, and not spam this newsgroup with all your
nonsense.

Just to let you know, I will killfile you now, and hope others also will.


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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:44:59 +0100, "Peter" wrote:

There is only one, on the Orion ED yahoo group.

Btw, in another post you state that
"On a couple of occassions I've seen pinched optics
in this scope".
Then why only state one example here?

You clearly are not mentally well. Hope you get well soon, and in the
meantime, please stay away from here, or at least moderate your posting, and
try going outside the house, and not spam this newsgroup with all your
nonsense.

Just to let you know, I will killfile you now, and hope others also will.

Let me try to explain this so even a moron like you will understand.
But first, a correction. I never said "On a couple of occassions I've
seen pinched optics on this scope."
So, you are a liar.

Two, since there are two examples of this that I know of, one being
mine, and since the lenses and cells of this scope are identical,
it makes sense that more will likely be seen, since aluminum and glass
don't change their physic characteristics from scope to scope.

Hopefully, you can muddle your way through to understand this.

Just what is your deal anyway harping away about ****ty telescopes anyway??
RichA, the king of ****! Give it up will ya?

Because people love to spread RUMORS

I know of two cases of this one now and one early this year around
March both sound exactly like an isolated couple of instances that may
not be cause by a tight cell.

But since Rich A. spends ALL day any troll he can find weeeeeell. You
can trust it to be a troll.:-)


"Peter" wrote in message .. .
There is only one, on the Orion ED yahoo group.

Then WHY all these posts? If it's only ONE example you know of, why then go
around spreading rumors about pinched optic in the ED80??!

Do you have no moral or ethics?

Pete


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On 18 Nov 2004 17:21:05 -0800, (J. Cartolano)
wrote:

Because people love to spread RUMORS

I know of two cases of this one now and one early this year around
March both sound exactly like an isolated couple of instances that may
not be cause by a tight cell.

But since Rich A. spends ALL day any troll he can find weeeeeell. You
can trust it to be a troll.:-)

So tell us, what caused them and why did the fellow on the yahoo ED
group find that his images improved when he milled out the cell????
-Rich