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Old November 6th 04, 08:43 AM
Ray Vingnutte
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3983131.stm

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Old November 6th 04, 01:48 PM
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"Ray Vingnutte" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3983131.stm


" ...yet the chip technology powering the machine is the kind which can be
found in familiar devices like games consoles."

It doesn't say how many they wired up in parallel, but building more
powerful machines by wiring up more Pentiums in parallel is easy - the hard
part is developing the software to make them appear one. The real
development will be software structures which allow you to dd computing
power by adding standard boxes to a LAN incrementally, in which case the
limit to the "computer" speed will be the number of Dells you want to buy
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Old November 6th 04, 01:57 PM
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:48:10 +1100
"Peter Webb" wrote:


"Ray Vingnutte" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3983131.stm


" ...yet the chip technology powering the machine is the kind which
can be found in familiar devices like games consoles."

It doesn't say how many they wired up in parallel, but building more
powerful machines by wiring up more Pentiums in parallel is easy - the
hard part is developing the software to make them appear one. The real
development will be software structures which allow you to dd
computing power by adding standard boxes to a LAN incrementally, in
which case the limit to the "computer" speed will be the number of
Dells you want to buy



I remember reading some time ago that NASA used to(and still may I
don't know) use what is called a Beowulf system, these I believe are
basically off the shelf computers that are networked together.
Whether that is still how things are don again I'm not sure.

This might help explain better than I can

http://www.beowulf.org/



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Old November 6th 04, 02:28 PM
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Heres a little more info, seems to be a lot if you search google, I'll
have to put that to one side for later looking at ;-)

http://www.xyroth-enterprises.co.uk/bclust.htm





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Old November 7th 04, 02:52 AM
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Peter Webb wrote:
"Ray Vingnutte" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3983131.stm



" ...yet the chip technology powering the machine is the kind which can be
found in familiar devices like games consoles."

It doesn't say how many they wired up in parallel, but building more
powerful machines by wiring up more Pentiums in parallel is easy - the hard
part is developing the software to make them appear one. The real
development will be software structures which allow you to dd computing
power by adding standard boxes to a LAN incrementally, in which case the
limit to the "computer" speed will be the number of Dells you want to buy
...




Huh, that's an interesting way to architech a network. I wonder what
the ROI is for something like this in a standard office where most users
are only concerned with documents, spreadsheets and email apps. I think
I'll take a look at this.
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Old November 8th 04, 05:36 PM
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"Peter Webb" wrote in message
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It doesn't say how many they wired up in parallel, but building more
powerful machines by wiring up more Pentiums in parallel is easy - the

hard
part is developing the software to make them appear one. The real
development will be software structures which allow you to dd computing
power by adding standard boxes to a LAN incrementally, in which case the
limit to the "computer" speed will be the number of Dells you want to buy

snip

IMHO, this will be the next revolution in computing. 64bit is just a
temporary excitemet.

BV.


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Old November 9th 04, 09:50 AM
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Benign Vanilla wrote:

"Peter Webb" wrote in message
u...
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It doesn't say how many they wired up in parallel, but building more
powerful machines by wiring up more Pentiums in parallel is easy - the

hard
part is developing the software to make them appear one. The real
development will be software structures which allow you to dd computing
power by adding standard boxes to a LAN incrementally, in which case the
limit to the "computer" speed will be the number of Dells you want to buy

snip

IMHO, this will be the next revolution in computing.


Not really.
Concepts like this are around and have been implemented for the last
20 years. The problem with that is the question "how to program those things".
Another problem is: A great deal of real world problems aren't
of the sort that parallel computing makes sense. The computer
will spend more time in sending data packets to processing units
then doing anything else. Or if the problem is really sequentially
(meaning B can be computed only after A has been computed. But then
C can only be computed after B's result has shown up etc), then
no parallel computer in the world can come up with the result faster
the a single CPU can.

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Old November 9th 04, 09:54 AM
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no parallel computer in the world can come up with the result faster
the a single CPU can.

what's a CPU?

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Old November 9th 04, 01:32 PM
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"Twittering One" ha scritto nel messaggio
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no parallel computer in the world can come up with the result faster
the a single CPU can.

what's a CPU?


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Old November 9th 04, 03:16 PM
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"Karl Heinz Buchegger" wrote in message
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IMHO, this will be the next revolution in computing.


Not really.
Concepts like this are around and have been implemented for the last
20 years. The problem with that is the question "how to program those

things".
Another problem is: A great deal of real world problems aren't
of the sort that parallel computing makes sense. The computer
will spend more time in sending data packets to processing units
then doing anything else. Or if the problem is really sequentially
(meaning B can be computed only after A has been computed. But then
C can only be computed after B's result has shown up etc), then
no parallel computer in the world can come up with the result faster
the a single CPU can.


I guess I should have been more clear. My point being that someday, IMHO,
Windows or Lindows, or Linux or BallmerOS, or whatever is dominant, will
have a feature where you can share x% of your processor time, so as
companies buy computers they will just be adding to their grid. Then in the
off hours you can sell your bandwidth. This will all be part of the OS, and
the need to handle it will be disconnected from the application. The OS will
just use the available CPU bandwidth.

BV.


 




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