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August 27th 04, 11:20 PM
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August 28th 04, 06:35 PM
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In sci.space.history dave schneider wrote:
(Ron) wrote many fine things, including: [...] Sep 06 - Asteroid 2991 Bilbo Closest Approach To Earth (1.000 AU) [...] Bagginses agains. Pfui. Clear favoritism. Quick perusal of thee asteroid name list turns up not a single Frodo, Samwise, Gollum, Aragorn, or Gimli. At most that guy Tolkien. At least we don't yet have a Sauron or Morgoth (not even Melkor) hanging over our heads. Now. if one of the ones I occasionally come across were still unnamed... I don't know of any rules requiring that the mythological names be of actually ancient origin. Bill Keel
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August 28th 04, 07:36 PM
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"William C. Keel" wrote in news:4130c27e$1
@news.ua.edu: In sci.space.history dave schneider wrote: (Ron) wrote many fine things, including: [...] Sep 06 - Asteroid 2991 Bilbo Closest Approach To Earth (1.000 AU) [...] Bagginses agains. Pfui. Clear favoritism. Quick perusal of thee asteroid name list turns up not a single Frodo, Samwise, Gollum, Aragorn, or Gimli. At most that guy Tolkien. At least we don't yet have a Sauron or Morgoth (not even Melkor) hanging over our heads. Now. if one of the ones I occasionally come across were still unnamed... I don't know of any rules requiring that the mythological names be of actually ancient origin. There doesn't appear to be any rules at all for asteroids. All you have to do is have pull with the IAU and you can get an asteroid named pretty much anything. More than 8,000 asteroids have been named to date. Asteroids receive a provisional designation––such as 1989 UL5 in the case of asteroid Urey––after being spotted by the same observer over two nights within a week. After an accurate orbit for the object is calculated, the discoverer chooses a name, which must be approved by the International Astronomical Union. The IAU is the only organization that has international authority to name astronomical bodies and features on them.
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August 28th 04, 09:11 PM
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In article ,
William C. Keel wrote: Sep 06 - Asteroid 2991 Bilbo Closest Approach To Earth (1.000 AU) Bagginses agains. Pfui. Clear favoritism. Quick perusal of thee asteroid name list turns up not a single Frodo, Samwise, Gollum, Aragorn, or Gimli... Check the derivation of the name before jumping to conclusions. It may not be from the Tolkien character. If memory serves, "Bilbo" and variants on it are sometimes seen as Italian surnames. ...Now. if one of the ones I occasionally come across were still unnamed... I don't know of any rules requiring that the mythological names be of actually ancient origin. Asteroid names don't have to be mythological at all. There's one named after Frank Zappa, for example. Subject to a few restrictions -- I believe you can't name them after living people, in particular -- and confirmation by the IAU, an asteroid's name is chosen by its discoverer. -- "Think outside the box -- the box isn't our friend." | Henry Spencer -- George Herbert |
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August 28th 04, 10:58 PM
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In sci.astro Henry Spencer wrote:
: In article , : William C. Keel wrote: : Sep 06 - Asteroid 2991 Bilbo Closest Approach To Earth (1.000 AU) : Bagginses agains. Pfui. : :Clear favoritism. Quick perusal of thee asteroid name list turns up :not a single Frodo, Samwise, Gollum, Aragorn, or Gimli... : Check the derivation of the name before jumping to conclusions. It may : not be from the Tolkien character. If memory serves, "Bilbo" and variants : on it are sometimes seen as Italian surnames. Nope, (2991) Bilbo is named for Bilbo Baggins. I should know, I did the naming for that object. :...Now. if one of the ones I :occasionally come across were still unnamed... I don't know of :any rules requiring that the mythological names be of actually ancient :origin. : Asteroid names don't have to be mythological at all. There's one named : after Frank Zappa, for example. Subject to a few restrictions -- I (3834) Zappafrank. : believe you can't name them after living people, in particular -- and Oh dear, I must be dead then: (3202) Graff. That'll be a shock to my wife! :-) Minor planets can be named for living people, according to the rules of the CSBN. Features on planets and natural satellites cannot, according to the rules of the WGPSN. : confirmation by the IAU, an asteroid's name is chosen by its discoverer. See http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/info/HowNamed.html for more details. Gareth -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gareth V. Williams, MS 18, 60 Garden Street, Cambridge, MA 02138, U.S.A. Associate Director, IAU Minor Planet Center http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html OpenVMS & RISC OS: refined choices in operating systems
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August 28th 04, 11:25 PM
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"Gareth V. Williams" wrote in
: In sci.astro Henry Spencer wrote: : In article , : William C. Keel wrote: : Sep 06 - Asteroid 2991 Bilbo Closest Approach To Earth (1.000 : AU) : Bagginses agains. Pfui. : :Clear favoritism. Quick perusal of thee asteroid name list turns up :not a single Frodo, Samwise, Gollum, Aragorn, or Gimli... : Check the derivation of the name before jumping to conclusions. It : may not be from the Tolkien character. If memory serves, "Bilbo" and : variants on it are sometimes seen as Italian surnames. Nope, (2991) Bilbo is named for Bilbo Baggins. I should know, I did the naming for that object. :...Now. if one of the ones I :occasionally come across were still unnamed... I don't know of :any rules requiring that the mythological names be of actually :ancient origin. : Asteroid names don't have to be mythological at all. There's one : named after Frank Zappa, for example. Subject to a few restrictions : -- I (3834) Zappafrank. : believe you can't name them after living people, in particular -- and Oh dear, I must be dead then: (3202) Graff. That'll be a shock to my wife! :-) Not dead... just mythical! g
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August 29th 04, 12:09 AM
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Gareth V. Williams wrote: Nope, (2991) Bilbo is named for Bilbo Baggins. I should know, I did the naming for that object. Occasionally, one finds the perfect person to ask a question to....is there going to be a "Smaug" out there also? : confirmation by the IAU, an asteroid's name is chosen by its discoverer. They're just going to love that Earth orbit crossing one I am going to name "Wormwood", aren't they? How are wild Biblical prophecies ever to come true if we don't occasionally help them along a bit? ;-) Pat
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#9
August 29th 04, 12:29 AM
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In article ,
Gareth V. Williams wrote: Nope, (2991) Bilbo is named for Bilbo Baggins. I should know, I did the naming for that object. Aha, so it's *your* fault that there aren't ones named for everyone else. :-) : believe you can't name them after living people, in particular -- and Oh dear, I must be dead then: (3202) Graff. That'll be a shock to my wife! :-) Well, there is a third option: you could be undead. That would probably be even more unsettling to your wife, however. :-) -- "Think outside the box -- the box isn't our friend." | Henry Spencer -- George Herbert |
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#10
August 29th 04, 01:00 PM
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"Gareth V. Williams" wrote in message ... : believe you can't name them after living people, in particular -- and Oh dear, I must be dead then: (3202) Graff. That'll be a shock to my wife! :-) There's a little blue pill that can solve that. At least that's what all the spam I get tells me. :-)
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