Disturbed

I've always been disturbed by the fact that a collapsing black hole can
never reach singularity.( this because of general relativity and time
dialation at speeds near light.) This naturally implies that this universe
can never reach any resolution within space time. Only a theory of quantum
gravity could possibly resolve this, and every way I've thought of this has
come out unsatisfactory. I don't think string, M. or Quantum loop works well
here,
and I'm very suspicious of theories that invoke extra dimensions to make
their math work out. I will predict that it will be a guy like Einstein,
intuitive and hating math,
although eventually able to find math to match his thoughts that will unify
this mess. Wish it was me, but I'm too old. good luck kids

Have you tried thinking about this without the constraints of C as THE
"speed limit"?

Damian

"DB" wrote in message
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Have you tried thinking about this without the constraints of C as THE
"speed limit"?

I guess that would make sense now that it has been clearly demonstrated that
C is not a limit, right? Oh wait... you mean it hasn't been demonstrated?
Darn.

nightbat wrote

entity wrote:

I've always been disturbed by the fact that a collapsing black hole can
never reach singularity.( this because of general relativity and time
dialation at speeds near light.) This naturally implies that this universe
can never reach any resolution within space time. Only a theory of quantum
gravity could possibly resolve this, and every way I've thought of this has
come out unsatisfactory. I don't think string, M. or Quantum loop works well
here,
and I'm very suspicious of theories that invoke extra dimensions to make
their math work out. I will predict that it will be a guy like Einstein,
intuitive and hating math,
although eventually able to find math to match his thoughts that will unify
this mess. Wish it was me, but I'm too old. good luck kids

nightbat

Don't be disturbed entity, I have presented the theoretical
solution for black hole paradox via my presentation of the " Black Comet
".
The speed of light as with the upper limits of stellar mass (neutron
star) in normal gravity field is known, however in a strong gravity
field the space metric itself is curved inward so the normal limits of
light and mass do not apply. The center of galaxy non classical
singularity forms when the right conditions prevail for its central core
collapse. Once formed the natural strong gravity it presents is towards
its super dense center as a form of matter absent or stripped away of
Pauli exclusion principle state normal electron shells. A form of higher
energetic condensate matter created by the collapse of the stellar stars
own accumulated body mass and particular reciting galaxy position.

That we presently only know of certain limited normal gravity dynamics
and energy and mass make-up, the far distant basically unobservable
strong gravity field presents a formidable challenge both theoretically
and observationally. The quantum state of matter in extremely strong
theoretical gravitational setting presents a very complex and beyond
normal physics investigation state. The common intuitive reliance and
attempt at deducing, as Einstein suspected and affirmed, was not helpful
for there is no comparable similar regular or quantum fermion to bosons
integer spin concentrated symmetric group stable matter in normal
gravity field. It was theoretically deduced based on proven mathematical
postulates that further let me to my solution for black hole paradox as
previous nightbat posts disclosed via older Deja and Google science
newsgroups as the very super cold " Black Comet " body or nightbat
singularity.

See:http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomfr...s%2Fspinc.html

the nightbat

"Paul Lawler" wrote in message hlink.net...
"DB" wrote in message
et...
Have you tried thinking about this without the constraints of C as THE
"speed limit"?

I guess that would make sense now that it has been clearly demonstrated that
C is not a limit, right? Oh wait... you mean it hasn't been demonstrated?
Darn.


C is the speed limit in local space. But how do we know that the
interior of a black hole is in local space?

There is really no way we can measure or demonstrate what goes on in a
black hole. Therefore theoreticians are really playing a guessing
game.

How do we know that there is no limit to the force of gravity as
matter compresses? You have heard about how if you get too many
protons in one place, with too much positive charge, electrons seem to
spring into existence out of the vacuum too keep the positive charge
from getting too large.

What if it so happens that when you get too much gravitational
"charge" in too small an area that dark energy or particles with
negative mass spring out of the vacuum to keep gravity below some
limit, and so also put a restraint on the time dilation?

We know little of the quark degeneracy pressures, but quark star
candidates have been observed. We know nothing of whether quarks
themselves have components that might generate their own degeneracy
pressures and therefore keep matter from collapsing into a
singularity.

I for one think that neither a singularity nor a non-resolving time
frozen black hole are the ultimate answer.

Double-A

I'm sorry, I forgot that we have a collapsing black hole in a lab in Arizona
where all theories have been actually demonstrated. Oh wait...you mean we
don't have a collapsing black hole and everything is STILL a theory?
Darn.




LOL...Sorry, just a little humor to your response. If it weren't for our
ability - better yet, willingness - to think outside of conventional wisdom
we would still be believing on a flat Earth and afraid to plunge over the
edge.

Damian
"Every defined law of physics started out as someone's gut feeling."

"DB" wrote in message
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I'm sorry, I forgot that we have a collapsing black hole in a lab in
Arizona
where all theories have been actually demonstrated.
snip

I've been wondering why I am so drawn to Arizona. I always thought it was
the weather and the golf.

BV.