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Old October 7th 03, 10:12 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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Default Gas Planets Evolve to be Rock planets???

Well lets start with their core,and its solid. Lets come up further and
it is a liquid,and still further its atmosphere is a gas. Not much
difference(yes?) Let have gravity compress this gas so that it adds
more liquid to the planets surface as water. Jupiter could evolve into
a great water planet. It could be the best phase to go in the next 1.5
billion years. Bert

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Old October 8th 03, 12:45 PM
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Well lets start with their core,and its solid. Lets come up further and
it is a liquid,and still further its atmosphere is a gas. Not much
difference(yes?) Let have gravity compress this gas so that it adds
more liquid to the planets surface as water. Jupiter could evolve into
a great water planet. It could be the best phase to go in the next 1.5
billion years. Bert



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Old October 8th 03, 07:49 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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What I'm trying to show is gravity is evolving gas planets with its
compression force.(as it does all things) Jupiter will get smaller in
time,but its mass will not change. Gravities compression force can
change hydrogen gas to a stable solid. Should I say more? Bert

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Old October 9th 03, 03:14 AM
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:49:23 -0400 (EDT), (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

What I'm trying to show is gravity is evolving gas planets with its
compression force.(as it does all things) Jupiter will get smaller in
time,but its mass will not change. Gravities compression force can
change hydrogen gas to a stable solid. Should I say more? Bert


Ha Ha, gotcha! You said "compression", is'nt it? The further away from the
core, the weakest the "compression" (the pressure, really ) is. So that
solidification effect can occur only near the core of very giants gas planets.
Remember that to get solid hydrogen, you need a very low temperature too and
Jupiter is always receiving energy from the Sun.

Suppose we have a giant gas planet, alone, right in the middle of a great
cosmic void between the greats galaxies clusters. It is still bathed in the
cosmic background radiation wich is about 2.725° above absolute zero. Because
of evaporation, some helium ( wich liquifies at 4.2 degree Kelvin ) will still
be in liquid state and anywhere you have a liquid, you also have some vapour.

Also remember that at close range, the electromagnetic force always win over the
gravitationnal force. That mean that electrons from every atoms repels each
others. Why do you think that red dwarf stars are still stable after 15
billions years?

Gravitation is the weakest of the four forces in the Universe ( gravitation,
electromagnetic, nuclear weak and nuclear stong ) and the three other are acting
against the formation of a "rocky" Jupiter. And there are other forces like
solar wind, injection of new materials in planets ( falling comets ),
evaporation of atoms in outher space, injection and radiation of heath from
outside source etc... Even the expansion of the Universe goes against it! ( as
the Universe expand, the atoms goes wider apart, preventing the formation of a
solid )

No, forget about it. You will never get a rocky planet from a gas one. Sorry. A
theorical possibility but a truly impossible one. And do not forget that i live
in a true Universe, not a theorical one...
Good night!

Benoît Morrissette
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Old October 9th 03, 02:21 PM
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the Universe expand, the atoms goes wider apart, preventing the formation of
a
solid )

No, forget about it. You will never get a rocky planet from a gas one.
Sorry. A
theorical possibility but a truly impossible one. And do not forget that i
live
in a true Universe, not a theorical one...
Good night!

Benoît Morrissette
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Just a wee thought, taking Jupiter and Our Sun, what will happen when our
Sun becomes a red giant, sure a great deal of the lighter gasses will steam
off leaving either no gas and just water or maybe just rock.


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Old October 9th 03, 02:21 PM
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the Universe expand, the atoms goes wider apart, preventing the formation of
a
solid )

No, forget about it. You will never get a rocky planet from a gas one.
Sorry. A
theorical possibility but a truly impossible one. And do not forget that i
live
in a true Universe, not a theorical one...
Good night!

Benoît Morrissette
../////////////////
Just a wee thought, taking Jupiter and Our Sun, what will happen when our
Sun becomes a red giant, sure a great deal of the lighter gasses will steam
off leaving either no gas and just water or maybe just rock.


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Old October 9th 03, 07:50 PM
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:14:29 -0400, Benoit Morrissette
wrote:

What I'm trying to show is gravity is evolving gas planets with its
compression force.(as it does all things) Jupiter will get smaller in
time,but its mass will not change. Gravities compression force can
change hydrogen gas to a stable solid.

Should I say more?
Bert
SNIP SNIP
********************* *********
No, you should NOT say more.
You should say less.
HOWEVER, you certainly should read much more before saying
anything.
---Mac
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Old October 9th 03, 08:52 PM
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Mac Should I put you in the same category as "Mac the knife?" Yes it
does fit. Bert

 




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