New Lights

I went to the RSDC meeting last night, ( these are the folks who up
the deal for voting in a higher tax for more street lights that I'm
waging a one man battle against ) and I found out about a housing deal
that's going to be built to the west of me, ( 110th ST West & Ave A )
and while they where worryed about the amount of water the place would
draw from the local water table, and yes that is a worry for me too as
this trailer park is on wells and so is most of Rosamond with city
wells. But the idea of lights came to me first, as it's a 1,200 homes
deal to be built along with new shops,etc. just outside it. Can you
say my west view is being flushed down the drain?



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"starlord inreach.com" starlord* wrote in message ...
wells. But the idea of lights came to me first, as it's a 1,200 homes
deal to be built along with new shops,etc. just outside it. Can you
say my west view is being flushed down the drain?

I feel for you, man and adminre you for your one man fight!

Those shopkeepers are gonna want to attract attention and traffic.
And if the trend in my area is any omen, they'll want those sarc
nice quaint/sarc acorn style lamps. Never mind that those garish
glary acorn lights distract from and obscure the view of the illuminated
signs those shopkeepers hope passing traffic will notice.

Then there are all those parked minivans, Volvos and minivans that
will need 24/7 daylight illumination. Finally don't forget the 24/7
illuminated soccer fields and tennis courts. :-(((

Then again, maybe someone will listen to reason. At least you're
speaking up.


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From what I understand from last nights meeting, they are going to put
in a golf course first and then as the project is built up, there's
going to be something like 17 parks in the area and instead of
designing them for DESERT landscaping, they'll be using water eating
grass. Heck the golf course alone will take 1 million ac feet of water
per week. And if they rig it up for night play ... hmmm wonder if I
could get hold of a airfoce Jdam?

And last night I had the BEAST parked right out in front with the
signs on it's side saying vote NO on I, right where they could see it
when they drove in. As I'm doing this campair on my own budget, it's a
one man operation, this weekend when my VA comes in I'll get some
more poster boards and make new signs and nail'm up all over town,
make the RSDC people real happy to see that! and next tuesday is the
day that'll tell the tail.



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"Hilton Evans" wrote in message
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"starlord inreach.com" starlord* wrote in message
...
wells. But the idea of lights came to me first, as it's a 1,200
homes
deal to be built along with new shops,etc. just outside it. Can
you
say my west view is being flushed down the drain?

I feel for you, man and adminre you for your one man fight!

Those shopkeepers are gonna want to attract attention and
traffic.
And if the trend in my area is any omen, they'll want those
sarc
nice quaint/sarc acorn style lamps. Never mind that those
garish
glary acorn lights distract from and obscure the view of the
illuminated
signs those shopkeepers hope passing traffic will notice.

Then there are all those parked minivans, Volvos and minivans
that
will need 24/7 daylight illumination. Finally don't forget the
24/7
illuminated soccer fields and tennis courts. :-(((

Then again, maybe someone will listen to reason. At least you're
speaking up.


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In article , starlord wrote:
From what I understand from last nights meeting, they are going to put
in a golf course first and then as the project is built up, there's
going to be something like 17 parks in the area and instead of
designing them for DESERT landscaping, they'll be using water eating
grass. Heck the golf course alone will take 1 million ac feet of water
per week.


Hmm. Back in grade school, one of the really drab subjects
that I'll bet most people forgot quickly was geography -- this
area raises alfalfa and cattle, that one mines copper and zinc,
the other gets 43 inches per year of rainfall and is known for
its hydropower, all those facts and figures.

And yet it's what our geography teachers taught that we most
need to know to judge projects like this. How much water *does*
such-and-such kind of development take, and how much water flows
through that river and gets shared among all these regions,
and how much rain falls here...

And if they rig it up for night play ... hmmm wonder if I
could get hold of a airfoce Jdam?

And last night I had the BEAST parked right out in front with the
signs on it's side saying vote NO on I, right where they could see it
when they drove in. As I'm doing this campair on my own budget, it's a
one man operation, this weekend when my VA comes in I'll get some
more poster boards and make new signs and nail'm up all over town,
make the RSDC people real happy to see that! and next tuesday is the
day that'll tell the tail.

Good luck, and keep up the fight

Stuart

River? What river? The whole of the Antelope Valley gets it's water
from one vast underground auqafur(sp?) and already some wells have had
to go deeped. This trailer park has two wells, each one 300ft deep.
There are plans to build at lest one, maybe two rechagers which would
take treated waste water and spread in threw pipes down into the
ground where it would soak on down. But that's still years away. This
project had made agrrements to pipe in treated gray water from
Rosamond's treatment plant and use it on the golfcourse, but from what
was said, when they presented it to the Kern county coucil they had
removed anything about that. They are saying that they can pump out
over a million ac feet of water a day for just the houses when built
and they've not made any deal for water from the AVWater people that
handle a large amount of water. This could effect even rosamond's
water supply as they would be pumping a vast amount out with no inflow
back. At lest the water I do my garden of iris goes back into the
ground, but I'm small ( tiny even ) compaired to the project. And they
said the plans from Kern itself showed them making the 2 land road
into a 6 lane road to almost the freeway and you KNOW they'll light up
that road for shops and stuff to build on.

hmmm ... wonder how dark death valley is?


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"Stuart Levy" wrote in message
om...
In article , starlord wrote:
From what I understand from last nights meeting, they are going to
put
in a golf course first and then as the project is built up, there's
going to be something like 17 parks in the area and instead of
designing them for DESERT landscaping, they'll be using water
eating
grass. Heck the golf course alone will take 1 million ac feet of
water
per week.


Hmm. Back in grade school, one of the really drab subjects
that I'll bet most people forgot quickly was geography -- this
area raises alfalfa and cattle, that one mines copper and zinc,
the other gets 43 inches per year of rainfall and is known for
its hydropower, all those facts and figures.

And yet it's what our geography teachers taught that we most
need to know to judge projects like this. How much water *does*
such-and-such kind of development take, and how much water flows
through that river and gets shared among all these regions,
and how much rain falls here...

And if they rig it up for night play ... hmmm wonder if I
could get hold of a airfoce Jdam?

And last night I had the BEAST parked right out in front with the
signs on it's side saying vote NO on I, right where they could see
it
when they drove in. As I'm doing this campair on my own budget,
it's a
one man operation, this weekend when my VA comes in I'll get some
more poster boards and make new signs and nail'm up all over town,
make the RSDC people real happy to see that! and next tuesday is
the
day that'll tell the tail.

Good luck, and keep up the fight

Stuart

This could effect even rosamond's water
supply as they would be pumping a vast
amount out with no inflow back.

If you want to win the public over to your side on this thing, this
might be your best angle. No one will care about the light pollution
problem. If the project goes through, THEN work like Hell on educating
the planners on the benefits of well shielded lighting. And this will
be most effectively done talking about economics, safety, and
aesthetics. Saving the night sky, at least at this point in time, will
get you nowhere.
Marty