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This message was posted to the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada members
newsgroup but I would like to see a response from a wider audiance so I'm posting it to sci.astro.research. Some time back I was looking through the RASC history book, "Looking Up", by Peter Broughton and noted the article on Canadian astronomer, Andrew McKellar where it stated that he was probably the first astronomer to estimate the 3 degree cosmic background radiation 25 years before it was measured. This was of course done by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson from Bell Telephone Labs in 1965 and measured at 2.7 deg K. I did a search for more information on the internet and another author claimed the existence of such radiation was first predicted by George Gamow in 1948. McKellar's paper was published by the Department of Mines and Resources, Canada, Publications of the Dominion Astrophysical Observatory, Victoria, B.C. Volume VII, No. 15, in March 1941. He was studying spectroscopic plates taken with the 100 inch at Mount Wilson noting sharp CH and CN lines in stellar spectra. He stated that the three-prism spectrograph at Victoria barely revealed these lines. From this McKellar stated that the temperature was 2.3 deg K. compared with earlier temperatures estimated by Eddington, (3.2 deg k.), for matter in interstellar space. Some have suggested that this was over looked because it was published in an obscure Journal with limited circulation! Obscure, perhaps in popular circulation, but not overlooked. See the book, "Astronomical Spectroscopy" by A. D. Thackery (1961) on p. 148. I have read McKellar's paper and am first to admit that much of this is way over my head. Perhaps one of our professional spectroscopists can simplify this so a lay person can understand this better. I do think that McKellar's work should be given more historical credit than it is. Any comments? Ed Majden Courtenay, B.C. |
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This message was posted to the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada members newsgroup but I would like to see a response from a wider audiance so I'm posting it to sci.astro.research. ....snip summary of McKellar's results on what turned out to be the CMB... I have read McKellar's paper and am first to admit that much of this is way over my head. Perhaps one of our professional spectroscopists can simplify this so a lay person can understand this better. I do think that McKellar's work should be given more historical credit than it is. Any comments? I'm not so sure about "overlooked" - this work is regularly cited as an interesting historicl aspect of CMB studies. In fact, up through the 1970s, followup remained a serious piece of CMB research, affording access to the one relevant wavelength for CN excitation across the Galaxy. (In fact, it was intellectually important as the first evidence that the microwave background couldn't be a very local phenomenon - sort of the role now played by C II excited state absorption in QSO absorption lines by tracing the implied CMB temperature with redshift). I learned about it from an oldish Annual Reviews article, and am pretty sure it's detailed in Bruce Partiridge's book (since our library didn't see fit to buy one...) To complicate things further, one of the Mt. WIlson spectroscopists (Adams?) was described as having noted the excess CN temperature about teh same time. A quick ADS search does show Adams as observing CN lines, if only because are in the same spectral range as the Ca II H and K lines he was surveying. McKellar was not exactly an unknown in astronomical publication - I see here his paper on the identification of CN as the first known interstellar diatomic molecule in a 1941 PASP paper, for example. His interests moved on to cometary spectra and molecules in stellar atmospheres after the war years. One thing that can be frustrating for those of later generations (ahem) is that interesting things can often be hidden in the more discursive papers written back then, when there were fewer astronomers and fewer papers tp plow through. |
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[[Mod. note -- A few minutes ago I mistakenly posted a version of this
article lacking a "References:" header. My apologies for the omission; here is the full article again, this time hopefully with all headers... -- jt]] Ed Majden wrote: This message was posted to the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada members newsgroup but I would like to see a response from a wider audiance so I'm posting it to sci.astro.research. ....snip summary of McKellar's results on what turned out to be the CMB... I have read McKellar's paper and am first to admit that much of this is way over my head. Perhaps one of our professional spectroscopists can simplify this so a lay person can understand this better. I do think that McKellar's work should be given more historical credit than it is. Any comments? I'm not so sure about "overlooked" - this work is regularly cited as an interesting historicl aspect of CMB studies. In fact, up through the 1970s, followup remained a serious piece of CMB research, affording access to the one relevant wavelength for CN excitation across the Galaxy. (In fact, it was intellectually important as the first evidence that the microwave background couldn't be a very local phenomenon - sort of the role now played by C II excited state absorption in QSO absorption lines by tracing the implied CMB temperature with redshift). I learned about it from an oldish Annual Reviews article, and am pretty sure it's detailed in Bruce Partiridge's book (since our library didn't see fit to buy one...) To complicate things further, one of the Mt. WIlson spectroscopists (Adams?) was described as having noted the excess CN temperature about teh same time. A quick ADS search does show Adams as observing CN lines, if only because are in the same spectral range as the Ca II H and K lines he was surveying. McKellar was not exactly an unknown in astronomical publication - I see here his paper on the identification of CN as the first known interstellar diatomic molecule in a 1941 PASP paper, for example. His interests moved on to cometary spectra and molecules in stellar atmospheres after the war years. One thing that can be frustrating for those of later generations (ahem) is that interesting things can often be hidden in the more discursive papers written back then, when there were fewer astronomers and fewer papers tp plow through. |
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[[Mod. note -- My new usenet server requires a valid domain on the
"From:" line of all outgoing articles, so I had to edit the sender's anti-spam address. My apologies for any extra spam this lets through... -- jt]] Ed Majden wrote: [...] I have read McKellar's paper and am first to admit that much of this is way over my head. Perhaps one of our professional spectroscopists can simplify this so a lay person can understand this better. I do think that McKellar's work should be given more historical credit than it is. Any comments? You might want to look at a recent book by Alpher and Herman, _Genesis of the Big Bang_. The authors were intimately involved in the early history of the CMBR. Chapter 5 has a discussion of the history, and includes a couple of pages about McKellar. Steve Carlip |
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[[Mod. note -- I have reformatted the text slightly to make it clearer
who said what. -- jt]] Ed Majden wrote: [...] I have read McKellar's paper and am first to admit that much of this is way over my head. Perhaps one of our professional spectroscopists can simplify this so a lay person can understand this better. I do think that McKellar's work should be given more historical credit than it is. Any comments? Steve Carlip wrote You might want to look at a recent book by Alpher and Herman, _Genesis of the Big Bang_. The authors were intimately involved in the early history of the CMBR. Chapter 5 has a discussion of the history, and includes a couple of pages about McKellar. I haven't read the book which Prof. Carlip is refering to. I also saw a good dsicussion of Mc Keller's work in the book by Hoyle, Burbidge and Narlikar: A different approach to Cosmology |
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