![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Dr. Tartar gave a talk tonight at the University of Minnesota and I
enjoyed it quite a bit. I especially liked her comment that SETI is a misnomer, what we're really searching for is like technology. I commented something along similar lines here back in 2000 (http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...umn.edu&rnum=1) But I found a couple areas where she should clarify her presentation: (1) The notion of finding another "life genesis" beyond earth. I agree that this would immediately strengthen the cause for life being a cosmic imperative, however I don't think the Earth itself represents only a single experiment with life, and the paleontological evidence supports this: (a) Extremophiles live in wildly differing environments. Might it not be plausible that such (relatively primitive) life developed independently in various extreme environments? This seems to make more sense than a wild diffusionist theory, which seems to postulate a sort of super-bacterium which can adapt to any environment. (b) Whenever chemicals mix in a reaction, we never speak of "the first" resulting molecule in the new compound. It is, by default, something that happens chaotically and for all practical purposes simultaneously by millions, billions (or far more) molecules. (c) If conditions for a particular compound are present in two totally isolated "laboratories", then it can be said that when they are combined in similar ways that both resulting mixtures were independent. derivations. So to argue that life originated only once on Earth would require establishing that there was only a single place, with unique conditions (not particularly reasonable). Thus, I conclude that the Earth does not represent a single experiment, and that the "genesis" mode of thinking is a vestigal artifact of a religious Creation, more so than what probbaly occured. Secondly, I don't think that the search for extra-terrestrial signals is about hunting for signals "not found in nature." As Homo sapiens, we are fully a part of nature. Nothing we do violates any laws of nature, and no laws of nature were violated in our coming into being. Thus, the signal search approaches to SETI are not at all about finding "unnatural" signal origins but, rather, signals from a special subset of natu what we believe to require sentient nature. These may be "technicalities", but I think they're important milestones in SETI philosophy: (1) The Earth is not a single experiment and (2) We as Homo sapiens are fully a part of nature, and exist because we have reached a sort of natural economy (to couch things in anthropomorphic terms) with regard to the laws of biology, chemistry, and physics. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Magnificent Mars in Chicago: Ken Croswell to speak Feb. 6 | Magnificent Universe | Amateur Astronomy | 0 | January 30th 04 10:13 PM |
UFO Activities from Biblical Times | Kazmer Ujvarosy | Astronomy Misc | 0 | December 25th 03 05:21 AM |
Steve Edberg to Speak on "Mars: The Biggest Year" At Mt. Wilson LectureJuly 26 | Mike Simmons | Amateur Astronomy | 2 | July 23rd 03 12:43 PM |