Betelgeuse

As you have probably heard, the star Betelgeuse has been dimming lately.
For now I consider this more of an interesting curiosity than anything
else. But it just seems to just keep on dimming. See for instance
https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Does anyone around here have some knowledge about what is going on? Is
there some threshold under which one can say that this isn't just normal
variations? I mean if the magnitude of Betelgeuse went all the way to
3.0, I would be getting excited about this. But that 3.0 is just a
number I pulled out of thin air. Does someone more knowledgeable have a
more significant number beyond which the luminosity variation is
indicating more dramatic variations?

Any other comments on this?


Alain Fournier

On 23/01/2020 11:38 am, Alain Fournier wrote:
As you have probably heard, the star Betelgeuse has been dimming lately.
For now I consider this more of an interesting curiosity than anything
else. But it just seems to just keep on dimming. See for instance
https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Does anyone around here have some knowledge about what is going on? Is
there some threshold under which one can say that this isn't just normal
variations? I mean if the magnitude of Betelgeuse went all the way to
3.0, I would be getting excited about this. But that 3.0 is just a
number I pulled out of thin air. Does someone more knowledgeable have a
more significant number beyond which the luminosity variation is
indicating more dramatic variations?

Any other comments on this?


Alain Fournier

Well, we're all hoping that it's about to go supernova, of coure.

But I don't think anyone can give you a definite answer, because that
would imply a certain knowledge about whether it will go supernova now,
or not.

Perhaps this is what a star does for tens of thousands of years before
it goes bang.

Sylvia.

On Jan/22/2020 at 20:58, Sylvia Else wrote :
On 23/01/2020 11:38 am, Alain Fournier wrote:
As you have probably heard, the star Betelgeuse has been dimming
lately. For now I consider this more of an interesting curiosity than
anything else. But it just seems to just keep on dimming. See for
instance
https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Does anyone around here have some knowledge about what is going on? Is
there some threshold under which one can say that this isn't just
normal variations? I mean if the magnitude of Betelgeuse went all the
way to 3.0, I would be getting excited about this. But that 3.0 is
just a number I pulled out of thin air. Does someone more
knowledgeable have a more significant number beyond which the
luminosity variation is indicating more dramatic variations?

Any other comments on this?


Alain Fournier

Well, we're all hoping that it's about to go supernova, of coure.

But I don't think anyone can give you a definite answer, because that
would imply a certain knowledge about whether it will go supernova now,
or not.

Perhaps this is what a star does for tens of thousands of years before
it goes bang.

Sylvia.


I just found this:
http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=13410

"If these recent light changes are due to an extra-large amplitude light
pulse on the ~420-day period, then the next mid-light minimum is
expected during late January/early February, 2020. If Betelgeuse
continues to dim after that time then other possibilities will have to
be considered. The unusual behavior of Betelgeuse should be closely
watched."

So the next few magnitude readings will probably put an end to the
excitement about Betelgeuse. Let's hope they don't :-)


Alain Fournier

Alain Fournier wrote:
On Jan/22/2020 at 20:58, Sylvia Else wrote :
On 23/01/2020 11:38 am, Alain Fournier wrote:
As you have probably heard, the star Betelgeuse has been dimming
lately. For now I consider this more of an interesting curiosity than
anything else. But it just seems to just keep on dimming. See for
instance
https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Does anyone around here have some knowledge about what is going on? Is
there some threshold under which one can say that this isn't just
normal variations? I mean if the magnitude of Betelgeuse went all the
way to 3.0, I would be getting excited about this. But that 3.0 is
just a number I pulled out of thin air. Does someone more
knowledgeable have a more significant number beyond which the
luminosity variation is indicating more dramatic variations?

Any other comments on this?


Alain Fournier

Well, we're all hoping that it's about to go supernova, of coure.

But I don't think anyone can give you a definite answer, because that
would imply a certain knowledge about whether it will go supernova now,
or not.

Perhaps this is what a star does for tens of thousands of years before
it goes bang.

Sylvia.


I just found this:
http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=13410

"If these recent light changes are due to an extra-large amplitude light
pulse on the ~420-day period, then the next mid-light minimum is
expected during late January/early February, 2020. If Betelgeuse
continues to dim after that time then other possibilities will have to
be considered. The unusual behavior of Betelgeuse should be closely
watched."

So the next few magnitude readings will probably put an end to the
excitement about Betelgeuse. Let's hope they don't :-)


Is Belegeuse,or Eta Carinae,actually more "about to blow"?

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Le Feb/1/2020 Ã* 20:04, Alain Fournier a écritÂ*:
On Jan/22/2020 at 20:58, Sylvia Else wrote :
On 23/01/2020 11:38 am, Alain Fournier wrote:
As you have probably heard, the star Betelgeuse has been dimming
lately. For now I consider this more of an interesting curiosity than
anything else. But it just seems to just keep on dimming. See for
instance
https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Does anyone around here have some knowledge about what is going on?
Is there some threshold under which one can say that this isn't just
normal variations? I mean if the magnitude of Betelgeuse went all the
way to 3.0, I would be getting excited about this. But that 3.0 is
just a number I pulled out of thin air. Does someone more
knowledgeable have a more significant number beyond which the
luminosity variation is indicating more dramatic variations?

Any other comments on this?


Alain Fournier

Well, we're all hoping that it's about to go supernova, of coure.

But I don't think anyone can give you a definite answer, because that
would imply a certain knowledge about whether it will go supernova
now, or not.

Perhaps this is what a star does for tens of thousands of years before
it goes bang.

Sylvia.


I just found this:
http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=13410

"If these recent light changes are due to an extra-large amplitude light
pulse on the ~420-day period, then the next mid-light minimum is
expected during late January/early February, 2020. If Betelgeuse
continues to dim after that time then other possibilities will have to
be considered. The unusual behavior of Betelgeuse should be closely
watched."

So the next few magnitude readings will probably put an end to the
excitement about Betelgeuse. Let's hope they don't :-)


Alain Fournier

The latest luminosity reading seems indicate Betelgeuse has started
rebrightening as the "extra-large amplitude light pulse on the ~420-day
period" predicted. I still expect Betelgeuse to go supernova anytime
now. Well in the astronomical sense, anytime in the next 100,000 years.


Alain Fournier

Betelgeuse luminosity is now reaching what it was at its most recent
luminosity high (March 2019) and the curve is not showing any sign of
slowing down. Still too early to be excited, but I think it is
worthwhile to monitor its luminosity.


Alain Fournier


On Feb/22/2020 at 13:49, Alain Fournier wrote :
Le Feb/1/2020 Ã* 20:04, Alain Fournier a écritÂ*:
On Jan/22/2020 at 20:58, Sylvia Else wrote :
On 23/01/2020 11:38 am, Alain Fournier wrote:
As you have probably heard, the star Betelgeuse has been dimming
lately. For now I consider this more of an interesting curiosity
than anything else. But it just seems to just keep on dimming. See
for instance
https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Does anyone around here have some knowledge about what is going on?
Is there some threshold under which one can say that this isn't just
normal variations? I mean if the magnitude of Betelgeuse went all
the way to 3.0, I would be getting excited about this. But that 3.0
is just a number I pulled out of thin air. Does someone more
knowledgeable have a more significant number beyond which the
luminosity variation is indicating more dramatic variations?

Any other comments on this?


Alain Fournier

Well, we're all hoping that it's about to go supernova, of coure.

But I don't think anyone can give you a definite answer, because that
would imply a certain knowledge about whether it will go supernova
now, or not.

Perhaps this is what a star does for tens of thousands of years
before it goes bang.

Sylvia.


I just found this:
http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=13410

"If these recent light changes are due to an extra-large amplitude
light pulse on the ~420-day period, then the next mid-light minimum is
expected during late January/early February, 2020. If Betelgeuse
continues to dim after that time then other possibilities will have to
be considered. The unusual behavior of Betelgeuse should be closely
watched."

So the next few magnitude readings will probably put an end to the
excitement about Betelgeuse. Let's hope they don't :-)


Alain Fournier

The latest luminosity reading seems indicate Betelgeuse has started
rebrightening as the "extra-large amplitude light pulse on the ~420-day
period" predicted. I still expect Betelgeuse to go supernova anytime
now. Well in the astronomical sense, anytime in the next 100,000 years.


Alain Fournier

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4, Alain Fournier wrote:
Betelgeuse luminosity is now reaching what it was at its most recent
luminosity high (March 2019) and the curve is not showing any sign of
slowing down. Still too early to be excited, but I think it is
worthwhile to monitor its luminosity.

So were some people worrying that it might die out entirely?

On 2020-04-23 7:22 PM, Alain Fournier wrote:
Betelgeuse luminosity is now reaching what it was at its most recent
luminosity high (March 2019) and the curve is not showing any sign of
slowing down. Still too early to be excited, but I think it is
worthwhile to monitor its luminosity.


Alain Fournier


Natch it is now passing into our daylight sky as summer approaches.
If goes supernova we might see a bright spot in the daytime sky this
summer. If it persists into next winter, THAT would be spectacular.

Let's hope if it is heading this way it holds off for a few months!
Personally I hope not. I like it they way it is....

Dave