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On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? |
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? The surface is finished to an accuracy of 20 nm. I don't think it's unreasonable to characterize that as "nanometer precision". |
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On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 5:03:51 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? Like my wifes curves! Very close!!!! (o: |
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On Monday, 10 September 2018 00:11:22 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? The surface is finished to an accuracy of 20 nm. I don't think it's unreasonable to characterize that as "nanometer precision". Impressive, if true. What wavefront would that equal? |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 00:11:22 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? The surface is finished to an accuracy of 20 nm. I don't think it's unreasonable to characterize that as "nanometer precision". Impressive, if true. What wavefront would that equal? Well, that's on the order of 1/10 the wavelength of the shortest range the telescope might be used for. Any decent mirror in an amateur telescope is finished to a few tens of nanometers. The thing that's impressive here is doing it over such a huge area, and with mirrors which aren't rotationally symmetric. |
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On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 09:57:39 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 00:11:22 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? The surface is finished to an accuracy of 20 nm. I don't think it's unreasonable to characterize that as "nanometer precision". Impressive, if true. What wavefront would that equal? Well, that's on the order of 1/10 the wavelength of the shortest range the telescope might be used for. Any decent mirror in an amateur telescope is finished to a few tens of nanometers. The thing that's impressive here is doing it over such a huge area, and with mirrors which aren't rotationally symmetric. Depends on how they're doing it. Are they using optical polish for the final stage, or are they using some kind of molecular beam to ablate single layers of glass molecules? Also, laying down the coating so evenly is impressive too. |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:54:04 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 09:57:39 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 00:11:22 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:04:15 UTC-4, StarDust wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2f4zepwcy8 Building a mirror for any giant telescope is no simple feat. The sheer size of the glass, the nanometer precision of its curves, its carefully calculated optics, and the adaptive software required to run it make this a task of herculean proportions. But the recent castings of the 15-metric ton, off-axis mirrors for the Giant Magellan Telescope forced engineers to push the design and manufacturing process beyond all previous limits. Will be fun to see the Moon and it's craters in it! (o: "Nanometer precision of its curves?" Really? The curves are accurate to one billionth of a meter?? The surface is finished to an accuracy of 20 nm. I don't think it's unreasonable to characterize that as "nanometer precision". Impressive, if true. What wavefront would that equal? Well, that's on the order of 1/10 the wavelength of the shortest range the telescope might be used for. Any decent mirror in an amateur telescope is finished to a few tens of nanometers. The thing that's impressive here is doing it over such a huge area, and with mirrors which aren't rotationally symmetric. Depends on how they're doing it. Are they using optical polish for the final stage, or are they using some kind of molecular beam to ablate single layers of glass molecules? Also, laying down the coating so evenly is impressive too. The video shows what appears to be a sort of typical polishing tool attached to some kind of NC carriage assembly. |
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