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says... On 2018-02-09 17:33, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3423/1 I think it's relevant to your question. OK, so Falcon Heavy is a niche market to serve DoD and a few others. Would be interesting to ask Musk if, in hindsight, it turned out cheaper to work on strapping 3 Falcon 9s together versus packaging Falcon9 components (engines, tanks etc) into a single core). Isn't it simpler to strap the tanks together than to deal with booster sepatation? No. SpaceX found that it is much harder to do parallel loading, parallel ignition, parallel aerodynamics, and parallel staging than it was to do a "single stick" vehicle. There are many Elon Musk quotes which essentially says that Falcon Heavy was, in fact, much harder than they thought it would be. So much so that they almost canceled it 3 different times according to Musk. Look, Falcon Heavy reportedly cost $500 million to develop, has a $90 million per launch list price, and it's playing in a market where it might get 2-3 launches per year. If everything goes according to Musk's plans it will be replaced by BFR/BFS in maybe 5 years (possibly optimistic). So, spread $500 million over 15 launches of Falcon Heavy during that time and you get $33 million, which is over 1/3 of the list price of Falcon Heavy (ouch). Add in interest over those years and it's an even higher percentage of the list price. How in the hell is it ever going to make back that R&D investment with those numbers? My guess is that it simply won't. It's a technological dead end, just like Falcon 9. BFR/BFS, a fully reusable TSTO, is planned to eventually replace them both. Musk had repeatedly stated that they had grossly underestimated how much work was needed to strap the 3 stages together. Well that answers your question above, doesn't it? Someone mentioned that musk won't bother man-rating Falcon Heavy. (despite mentions elswhere of "joy rides around the moon" in Dragon). Since it shares some much commonality with Falcon 9, including common stage 2, capsule escape system, common stage 1 engines and I assume much commonality in software, how difficult would it be to man rate Falcon Heavy once Falcon 9 gets its man rating certification ? It's hard to say how much of this is hard fact and how much of this is marketing (i.e. product differentiation). BFR/BFS needs funding and was always intended to be "man rated" from the very beginning. It's hard to get a few $billion from investors to finish BFR/BFS development when Falcon Heavy is already flying and can handle the "high end" of the existing markets. To some investors (hopefully none that actually have money in SpaceX), now is the time to stop developing new hardware and turn SpaceX into a cash cow ala ULA (e.g. Atlas V, Delta IV, and Delta Heavy). Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. |
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