Study shows even physicists hate math!

Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in advanced mathematics, a new study suggests. The study, published in the New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention to theories that are crammed with mathematical details.

The researchers found using statistical analysis of the number of citations to 2,000 articles in a leading physics journal, that articles are less likely to be referenced by other physicists if they have lots of mathematical equations on each page.

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analy...hs-346973.html

On 11/14/2016 8:51 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in
advanced mathematics, a new study suggests. The study, published in
the New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention
to theories that are crammed with mathematical details.



that author reaches an obvioulsy wrong conclusion based upon very weak
data. NO confidence bounds given.

the author shows his dislike of math, and a bias to obtain his finding.

On 11/14/2016 10:18 AM, Yuri Kreaton wrote:
On 11/14/2016 8:51 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in
advanced mathematics, a new study suggests. The study, published in
the New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention
to theories that are crammed with mathematical details.



that author reaches an obvioulsy wrong conclusion based upon very weak
data. NO confidence bounds given.

the author shows his dislike of math, and a bias to obtain his finding.

It's more of a social sciences paper, rather than a hard science paper.
Social sciences are always a bit fuzzy in their conclusions.

Yousuf Khan

On 11/14/2016 10:11 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/14/2016 10:18 AM, Yuri Kreaton wrote:
On 11/14/2016 8:51 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in
advanced mathematics, a new study suggests. The study, published in
the New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention
to theories that are crammed with mathematical details.



that author reaches an obvioulsy wrong conclusion based upon very weak
data. NO confidence bounds given.

the author shows his dislike of math, and a bias to obtain his finding.

It's more of a social sciences paper, rather than a hard science paper.
Social sciences are always a bit fuzzy in their conclusions.

Yousuf Khan


key to his argument is;

"The researchers found using statistical analysis of the number of
citations to 2,000 articles in a leading physics journal, that articles
are less likely to be referenced by other physicists if they have lots
of mathematical equations on each page."

but that is BS, as obviously the most referenced papers are the ones
with a new key piece of knowledge discovered, or derrived in them.
Anyone that has worked or researched in the professional journals knows
this.

And those papers are not dependent upon the amount of math in them, some
have a little, some have a lot.

So I think this author laid an egg with this, it is bogus.



also check this out;

"...because physics students already receive extensive maths training
before they graduate."

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in advanced mathematics, a new study suggests. The study, published in the New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention to theories that are crammed with mathematical details.

The researchers found using statistical analysis of the number of citations to 2,000 articles in a leading physics journal, that articles are less likely to be referenced by other physicists if they have lots of mathematical equations on each page.

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analy...hs-346973.html


math is 'just a language', it's just the wrong language.

On 2016-11-14 19:38:45 +0000, The Starmaker said:

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Physicists avoid highly mathematical work despite being trained in
advanced mathematics, a new study suggests. The study, published in the
New Journal of Physics, shows that physicists pay less attention to
theories that are crammed with mathematical details.

The researchers found using statistical analysis of the number of
citations to 2,000 articles in a leading physics journal, that articles
are less likely to be referenced by other physicists if they have lots
of mathematical equations on each page.

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analy...hs-346973.html



What do they mean, "even" physicists? Are physicists supposed to be
any better at mathematics
than any other math-heavy crowd of non-mathematicians like electrical
engineers or economists? Are they supposed to be some sort of apex of
ability in a subject that isn't even their own academic major?

This is like saying that even ornithologists can't lay eggs.

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On 11/14/2016 2:06 PM, Yuri Kreaton wrote:
key to his argument is;

"The researchers found using statistical analysis of the number of
citations to 2,000 articles in a leading physics journal, that articles
are less likely to be referenced by other physicists if they have lots
of mathematical equations on each page."

but that is BS, as obviously the most referenced papers are the ones
with a new key piece of knowledge discovered, or derrived in them.
Anyone that has worked or researched in the professional journals knows
this.

And those papers are not dependent upon the amount of math in them, some
have a little, some have a lot.

So I think this author laid an egg with this, it is bogus.

Well, it isn't the first time that a study made a wrong correlation.

Yousuf Khan