Orbital dawn 2013

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata...dlfullsize.jpg

So,anyone else care to explain to students the dynamic behind this event and why,in 6 months time,the Sun will slowly move out of the picture as roughly 6 months of darkness envelops the location.

It is nothing short of disgraceful that the polar day/night cycle and its dynamical cause is omitted from the curriculum of students and the consciousness of the wider population by virtue that the magnification crowd can't get their act together and are stuck in the late 17th century attempt to bundle daily and orbital dynamics off a rotating celestial sphere.

On Friday, September 6, 2013 3:26:13 PM UTC+1, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata...dlfullsize.jpg



So,anyone else care to explain to students the dynamic behind this event and

why,in 6 months time,the Sun will slowly move out of the picture as roughly

6 months of darkness envelops the location.



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In six months time we'll be approaching equinox once again,

the Sun will rise in the NNE and and set in the NNW as seen

from the web cam once again.


I am sure the magnification guys think the reason for orbital dawn is because the Earth turns quickly at the equator and slow at the poles hence 6 months of daylight followed by 6 months of darkness.

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata...dlfullsize.jpg


That spectacular image at the South Pole station offers a window into the orbital behavior of the Earth and it is truly and utterly disgraceful that the community with students in their tutelage refuse to accept the dynamic arising from the orbital motion of the planet.

This would be an issue of international law where not that even the correlation between all the effects within a 24 hour cycle and one rotation of the planet as a cause is denied and it must bother some people despite the childishness of the magnification guys never mind the empiricists.

Anyone else want to explain why orbital dawn arrived at the polar latitude over the last few weeks ?

It is utterly and totally unacceptable that the orbital day/night cycle is ignored insofar as it is the turn of the Northern/Southern polar latitudes to turn through the circle of illumination into their respective orbital dawn and twilight.

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata...dlfullsize.jpg

It will still be dawn in 2 hours,12 hours or 12 days until until the central Sun appears as the polar coordinates are carried around in a circle just as all polar coordinates are -

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

The next person who explains why the South Pole station has moved out of darkness will also be explaining where the Equation of Time comes from along with the seasons at lower latitudes.

I do not care how many mathematical nuisances show up to smother this insight nor how desperate the constellation spotters are to retain their idea of what astronomy is,anyone can explain this right here and right now without the slightest objection from me.

Inspiration does not equate to guessing the future and the spirit to interpret the celestial motions and apply their effects in terrestrial science is open to all with the same adventurous spirit -

"Have you tied cords to the Pleiades,or loosened the bonds of Orion?Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth in their season,or guide the Bear with her children? Do you know the ordinances of the heavens;can you set their effects on the earth?" Book of Job

Enough of the anti-astronomical,anti-faith crowd,the insight where the polar coordinates pass through the circle of illumination can be distinctly extracted from the orbital behavior of the Sun by adapting the animated graphic to reflect the orbital behavior of the moon around the Earth on the left side of the graphic while the orbital behavior of the Earth is reflected on the graphic to the right side -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_Earth.gif

Rather than have a nuisance exploit a typo,I have to repeat the statement correctly -

The insight where the polar coordinates pass through the circle of illumination can be distinctly extracted from the orbital behavior of the Earth by adapting the animated graphic to reflect the orbital behavior of the moon around the Earth on the left side of the graphic while the orbital behavior of the Earth is reflected on the graphic to the right side -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_Earth.gif

For a world that spends many,many billions each year on 'climate science' and refuses to pay attention to the orbital day/night cycle as each and every location on the planet has their moment as a location turns into and out of the circle of illumination as a consequence of the orbital behavior of the Earth,in two weeks time it will be the turn of the North/South poles.

oriel36 wrote:
Rather than have a nuisance exploit a typo,I have to repeat the statement correctly -

The insight where the polar coordinates pass through the circle of
illumination can be distinctly extracted from the orbital behavior of the
Earth by adapting the animated graphic to reflect the orbital behavior of
the moon around the Earth on the left side of the graphic while the
orbital behavior of the Earth is reflected on the graphic to the right side -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_Earth.gif


And with your perspective as a distant observer outside the Earth you can
clearly see from the graphic that the Moon rotates once per month.
Only an ignorant homocentric observer limited to an Earthly viewpoint and
without sufficient visual IQ to appreciate it would maintain that the Moon
does not rotate.

On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:35:17 AM UTC-6, oriel36 wrote:
It is utterly and totally unacceptable that the orbital day/night cycle is
ignored insofar as it is the turn of the Northern/Southern polar latitudes to
turn through the circle of illumination into their respective orbital dawn
and twilight.

When you say the Earth takes 24 hours to rotate, you're ignoring the orbital day/night cycle.

The next person who explains why the South Pole station has moved out of
darkness will also be explaining where the Equation of Time comes from along
with the seasons at lower latitudes.

And here I thought this happened at the South Pole because rotation doesn't move it, it only turns it, so only the orbital effect governs day and night there. (It's not at the ecliptic pole, or it would have eternal twilight.)

Enough of the anti-astronomical,anti-faith crowd,

Astronomy is part of science, not part of religion.

John Savard

On Friday, September 6, 2013 6:02:08 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:

Rather than have a nuisance exploit a typo,I have to repeat the statement correctly -



The insight where the polar coordinates pass through the circle of

illumination can be distinctly extracted from the orbital behavior of the

Earth by adapting the animated graphic to reflect the orbital behavior of

the moon around the Earth on the left side of the graphic while the

orbital behavior of the Earth is reflected on the graphic to the right side -



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_Earth.gif





And with your perspective as a distant observer outside the Earth you can

clearly see from the graphic that the Moon rotates once per month.

Only an ignorant homocentric observer limited to an Earthly viewpoint and

without sufficient visual IQ to appreciate it would maintain that the Moon

does not rotate.


A biochemist should be capable of explaining to any interested observer how the body reacts to the changes in a 24 hour cycle as the Earth turns once each 24 hour day and I never stop taking this angle with people that they do not need a telescope and empirical bluffing - their bodies and all creation as it ebbs and flows with the cycles of the Earth is what makes astronomy worth pursuing and makes them natural astronomers even without knowing it..

Your contrived 1465 rotations in 1461 days is at variance with what the body experiences and that makes for a form of insanity and not the actions of a biochemist.

"oriel36" wrote in message
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http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata...dlfullsize.jpg

So,anyone else care to explain to students the dynamic behind this event and
why,in 6 months time,the Sun will slowly move out of the picture as roughly
6 months of darkness envelops the location.

===========================================
In six months time we'll be approaching equinox once again,
the Sun will rise in the NNE and and set in the NNW as seen
from the web cam once again.
I'll leave the tremendously difficult explanation for you get
wrong as you always do, Kelleher, you failed trigonometry
in 8th grade as you know.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Friday, September 6, 2013 3:26:13 PM UTC+1, Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl
of Medway wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/webdata...dlfullsize.jpg



So,anyone else care to explain to students the dynamic behind this event
and

why,in 6 months time,the Sun will slowly move out of the picture as
roughly

6 months of darkness envelops the location.



===========================================

In six months time we'll be approaching equinox once again,

the Sun will rise in the NNE and and set in the NNW as seen

from the web cam once again.


I am sure the magnification guys think the reason for orbital dawn is
because the Earth turns quickly at the equator and slow at the poles hence 6
months of daylight followed by 6 months of darkness.

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I'm so glad you are sure of what people think, you crazy chimpanzee.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

On Friday, September 6, 2013 3:01:39 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

A biochemist should be capable of explaining to any interested observer how the body reacts to the changes in a 24 hour cycle as the Earth turns once each 24 hour day and I never stop taking this angle with people that they do not need a telescope and empirical bluffing - their bodies and all creation as it ebbs and flows with the cycles of the Earth is what makes astronomy worth pursuing and makes them natural astronomers even without knowing it.



Your contrived 1465 rotations in 1461 days is at variance with what the body experiences and that makes for a form of insanity and not the actions of a biochemist.

You are talking about this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm

.... and no one here will argue about it, it is fact, we all agree.

We WILL argue, however, that 1465 sidereal rotations are equivalent to 1461 solar rotations, it is not insanity, just as (for today, at least) 1465 US dollars are equivalent to 1627 Australian dollars and to 1526 Canadian dollars. Is the monetary exchange system contrived, too? These dollars simply have different definitions, just like sidereal and solar rotations have different, but very compatible, definitions.

Why do you have SO much difficulty with such a simple concept? You already have admitted that you have difficulty with the understanding of various perspectives, why can't you accept that there a folks who understand things that you do not? Aren't you paranoid that virtually the entire scientific community does not agree with you? If not, you should be...

\Paul A