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How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable?
If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-.... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-.... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. 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On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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Shall we discuss what those items in the area of GuthVenus(Guth Venus)
have to offer? On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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Of course we’ve caught practically every government agency as having
been at one time or another lying through their teeth (including our highest office), and even multiple times so often being the case. So, it’s odd when those that topic/author stalk and trash some of us over the silliest of issues are so focused upon global domination as only they see fit, as such never see any problems whatsoever with having any too big of government (even if it’s generally dysfunctional), as long as their republic and skulduggery funded government keeps them living large and the next generation on the hook fending for themselves. It’s always quite understandable why they must put as many others down as possible, especially of anyone suggesting the previous and current generation in charge hasn’t been as honest and trustworthy as they claim, and otherwise because it’s only a redneck house of cards that protects them, as financed by the oligarchs that always get special benefits regardless of whomever we elect or appoint, and of course all paid for (including interest) by the taxpayers and consumers. After all, our government authority isn’t exactly stupid, especially when insider trading and essentially layers of corruption or dysfunction have to be accommodated at most all levels, is a very good thing for those on any public funded payroll or taping into government grants and bailouts with few if any strings attached. In other words, the FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups are simply doing their job, in part out of fear. So, it’s perfectly understandable why so much topic/author stalking and bashing is right up there with their approved methods of obfuscation, banishment and waterboarding, as well as most any other methods of denial and torture. (lots of real life analogies support this interpretation, so it’s not just my interpretation that matters) When I suggest that our NASA/Magellan team of wizards had missed identifying a few details about the planet Venus, naturally all sorts of mainstream damage control kicked into high gear. Because the implications are so great, it’s perfectly understandable how embarrassing and how otherwise disclosing this oversight and ongoing obfuscation on their part has to be enforced at all cost, because the consequences are truly enormous. On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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“GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus When I suggest that our NASA/Magellan team of wizards had missed identifying a few details about the planet Venus, naturally all sorts of mainstream damage control kicked into high gear. Because the implications are so great, it’s perfectly understandable how embarrassing and how otherwise disclosing this oversight and ongoing obfuscation on their part has to be enforced at all cost, because the consequences are truly enormous. On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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If you can't view my image links pertaining to GuthVenus(Guth Venus),
then your server/intranet has been intentionally blocking/excluding their access. There are few if not many possible work-arounds, but in order to help you’ll first need to tell me what you can or can not see. The context with regard to terraforming the innards of our moon actually makes a whole lot more sense than modifying the heavy and acidic atmospheric environment of Venus. Of course we could have been doing positive/constructive things with each of these nearby orbs as of more than a decade ago, instead of promoting global inflation on behalf of our oligarch overlords that pretty much get to do as they please and at the ongoing demise of others regardless of whomever we elect or appoint. Our moon should represent a mining treasure-trove of rare elements on its naked surface, as well as within its crust and especially of those elements sequestered below, whereas Venus is likely spitting out more valuable stuff per month than we can mine/excavate per year on Earth. In either case we can continue to ignore and/or forget about whatever our moon and Venus has to offer, and instead focus on continued exploitations of good old mother Earth for all she’s worth. However, Venus can be alive in ways other than conventional life as we know it, because its robust atmosphere offers indications of microbial environments suitable as to offering an atmospheric ocean of complex life which has been systematically ignored and otherwise banished by most scientists, and especially by those afraid of being excluded or banished from the next round of research grants or extensions. Photolysis of H2SO4 1 as the Source of Sulfur Species in the Venus Mesosphere http://yly-mac.gps.caltech.edu/Repri...517%20copy.pdf https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...npBNvQ& pli=1 This doesn’t mean that its sulfur tolerant microbes have evolved into intelligent life, and it also doesn’t exclude as to what truly intelligent other life could manage to do or having managed to function within such a toasty thick atmospheric protected planet like Venus has to offer. Junk DNA may be sufficient for Venusian microbes: http://www.livescience.com/31939-jun...ry-solved.html “The findings suggest junk DNA really isn't needed for healthy plants — and that may also hold for other organisms, such as humans.” Being that our moon remains as taboo/nondisclosure rated, you’d think that by far the most nearby planet that gets to within a little more than 100 LD(lunar distance) of us every 19 month cycle should be taken seriously, especially when such unusual geometrics and even infrastructure kinds of patterns have been so obvious for nearly 16 years, but oddly never once having been mainstream pointed out to us or given any official internal review, other than having applied total obfuscation and denial of being in denial as the NASA status-quo policy of applied banishment and FUD towards anyone or anything offering independent research related to the planet Venus. Venus is most definitely not a terrestrial Goldilocks suitable planet for any human nudist camps, although most any 5th grade ET Goldilocks shouldn't have any problems whatsoever with exploiting such a toasty treasure trove of raw and extremely valuable elements that should be worth their weight in gold, platinum and a few other heavy elements to export (sell at a ransom/exploited price to us stupid humans of Earth). The extremely buoyant nature of its atmosphere seems almost too good to pass up, especially for anyone with even a speck of airship engineering and operational expertise, but then most of our best educated Americans and other peers of our NASA and DARPA are either totally dumbfounded and without a clue as to how any level of intelligence or applied physics could ever make a planet like Venus suitable for accommodating any of us, or perhaps they simply intend to maintain as much mainstream denial and FUD as it takes in order to disqualify whatever independent outsiders might have to say. As long as you’ve gotten yourself this far, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Jun 5, 5:47*am, Brad Guth wrote: “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus When I suggest that our NASA/Magellan team of wizards had missed identifying a few details about the planet Venus, naturally all sorts of mainstream damage control kicked into high gear. *Because the implications are so great, it’s perfectly understandable how embarrassing and how otherwise disclosing this oversight and ongoing obfuscation on their part has to be enforced at all cost, because the consequences are truly enormous. On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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For those of you catching onto this topic for the very first time, and
having picked up on its context including material pertaining to our moon and the planet Venus, as such you might care to further consider and contribute your thoughts as to why the mainstream has always been so deathly afraid of this and similar topics. For those actually brave and otherwise honest enough to look through those Magellan radar obtained images, as to working your way through so many of them in order to get a good feel for what the vast majority of that toasty planet looks like (using as much PhotoShop or PhotoZoom as you like apply) before focusing upon interpreting the one radar image containing “GuthVenus”, which sort of stands out because of those numerous items of a rational community of seemingly infrastructure which by rights shouldn’t exist (but clearly do exist), and if you are not yet blown away by the implications as to such an extent that you can still ask a few questions and share your own deductive interpreting as to what those symmetrical and oddly geometric looking items could possibly represent as anything other than extremely unusual hot rocks, whereas then we can each have a little give and take as to openly reviewing our deductive interpretive differences and move this topic forward. Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Just a little friendly reminder, to not expect any positive/ constructive help from the Usenet gauntlet of mainstream FUD-masters in charge of enforcing their oligarch puppet government and media damage control, because they each have a very serious job to do. This is not saying the vast majority of individuals in charge of many other sub-levels of public authority are not good people, because it only takes the upper 0.1% of them to manage or moderate/dictate everything as only they alone see fit. Apparently the “Republic for which it stands” can just stand outside in the rain and screw itself, because only whatever the oligarchs decide is what gets approved and forever sticks, as even published in K-12 textbooks (which can never get retracted). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On May 31, 3:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote: How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? If others can manage to exploit Venus, then why can't those of us? Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus On Apr 24, 2:28*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Apparently, science nerds are supposed to be extremely narrow mindset and typically failsafe as harmless cranks that never act out or actually do anything aggressive, and because any context of off-world geology remains yet another faith-based taboo/nondisclosure topic policy of Usenet, whereas anything getting posted as open context pertaining to the ongoing research and discovery of any weird geology or the odd sorts of physics necessary for creating such highly unusual geodynamics of such symmetrical and even somewhat community infrastructure looking items (that by rights should not exist), is simply of what’s not being allowed to go public or much less into any of our K-12 indoctrinated mindsets. *Oddly, we can’t even seem to openly discuss exploiting the likely inverse density innards of our moon. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback, on behalf of interpreting whatever these highly unusual geometrical items as having been identified on the extremely hot surface of Venus could represent, and/or at least given us some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations for the rest of us to compare, in order to disqualify these rather numerous odd items as representing anything but perfectly natural formations. Sadly I’ve been asking this of our NASA, as well as multiple other public funded agencies and always giving an open channel to anyone else willing to give this one image of GuthVenus their best shot in the dark, or even their best geology swag. *Apparently they’ve all needed better than 12 years in order to decide what to do next. Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same “Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals into a mainstream status-quo mindset of always following order, which unfortunately far too many have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers. Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the sort of negative Karma likes of 911 (make that a whole lot of positive Karma if you are an oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and resources that we'll never get back, and which also forced other nations to follow suit. Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every location, such as mountainous and polar areas can be considerably cooler though still extremely hot by the sorts of human Goldilocks standards that we’re accustomed to. *However, with applied physics and reasonable technology, the surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer, because it’s the in-between stuff that’s not easily accomplished if you can only think of terrestrial limited methods that we get to deal with on Earth. Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy), that’s just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is desirable. Venus on the other hand is a lot more stable, and it isn’t traumatized by any moon, as well as offering terrific buoyancy for airships, nearly ideal protection from meteors and even most asteroids can’t hardly touch that surface unless they’re mostly of iron and other heavy metals. *You also can’t get any skin cancer from too much UV, and local radiation issues have to be nearly zilch unless you’re directly sitting on a pile of uranium and thorium. *The list of positive attributes simply outnumbers the bad stuff by a good 10:1, although if stuck with a naysay closed mindset, there’s no amount of positive/constructive benefits that’ll ever budge or pry such closed mindsets open. Surely there must be at least one geophysics qualified expertise that’s willing to contribute his/her feedback on what these highly unusual geometrical items could represent, and/or at least given some terrestrial examples that are clearly of perfectly natural formations, for the rest of us village idiots as outsiders to compare. Oddly the supposed image interpreting expertise of those public funded is sadly nonexistent, so perhaps we should not trust anything we’re being told by the world of mainstream experts about any other planet or moon. *They can’t even seem to independently discuss odd formations on our moon, nor the various gasses given off by our monochromatic (aka colorless) moon that our NASA/Apollo era supposedly got a firsthand look-see at. If we have to accept that Kodak film is every bit as good as our conditional physics via our cold-war NASA/Apollo era claims, and we otherwise have to accept each and every officially published word about our physically dark and naked moon being only as what they have to say it is, then perhaps we might as well accept that Venus is just another Muslim ruse, and that absolutely nothing of any importance or value is ever going to be represented by Venus regardless of whatever 36 confirming radar scanned images has to offer. *In other words, not so much as any radar obtained pixel of Venus can be trusted as to represent any geology formations of surface rock, mountains, canyons or that of anything else, but otherwise Kodak film can always be trusted regardless of the local lighting, extreme contract issues, lack of dynamic range and those always pesky IR to gamma radiation issues. What isn’t well understood about Venus is perhaps more interesting than what little we do know, even if GuthVenus is looking every bit as unnatural as it seems. *It’s a case of using our deductive reasoning subjectivity, as for filling in the blanks and connecting the dots with the best available science in order to interpret what surface formations have to offer. *Of course the mainstream status-quo of diehard naysayers will gladly obfuscate their butts off before allowing an outsider to get an inch or any gram of credit for uncovering anything, because that’s their job. *“Ever-Changing Venus Superstorm Sparks Interest” *http://news.yahoo.com/ever-changing-...arks-interest-... *“Venus And Her Layers Of Carbon Dioxide” *http://suyts.wordpress.com/2012/04/0...ers-of-carbon-... *“The takeaway on all of this….. models and the theories behind them are very useful when postulating new thoughts. *But, only if they include the realities science has already given us. *And lastly, in all science, regardless of the school of thought, observation is king. *It always has been, it always will be. *You can model, theorize and postulate until the cows come home but none of that matters when observation tells you otherwise.” There’s actually quite a bit of *old but perfectly reliable science interpretation within that blog of “Suyts Space”, and you certainly do not have to agree with all of it. *Without more robotic obtained science at specific altitudes and surface locations, it’s still hard to interpret or even swag as to what that planet has to offer. My ongoing observationology as to interpreting Venus (aka GuthVenus) is what seems to bug the living hell out of others, because they can’t stand whenever an outsider has anything of value to offer and share, and besides it’s always their redneck and FUD-master responsibility as to topic/author stalk and trash us outsiders at every opportunity. Proof is, in the 12+ years that I’ve been around, it seems they can’t point to one individual they’ve ever helped to disclose or promote anything of interest or value, although I’m having no problems whatsoever with easily pointing out the 100% of outsiders as having been topic/author stalked and summarily trashed at each and every opportunity, especially on behalf of any social/political issues these insiders as FUD-masters do not want to allow any free speech benefits to ever go unmoderated. Keep asking yourself; *why is any topic or reply on behalf of exploiting our moon, or much less the extremely nearby(100 LD) planet Venus, remains always such a royal mainstream taboo/nondisclosure issue? Most K-12s of this and even a few previous generations don’t have a clue about the physics or science of photographics, much less an understanding of radar imaging or even that of conventional optical lenses, filters, lighting or dynamic range issues or even color saturations, but none the less they’ll believe pretty much anything their peers have to say about what any given photograph has to offer. Future K-12s will most certainly become totally snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to independently interpreting what any digital image has to offer, outside of having to accept whatever their peers have to say. *In other words, we’ll have future generations of brainless zombies and otherwise devout brown- nosed minions as doing either exactly as told or face being classified as worthless humans, similar to those rounded up and treated worse than cattle by the SS Nazis (upper caste oligarchs) that had their puppet warlord to blame everything on. Any republic as having become incapable of independently thinking and reacting as based upon deductive reasoning, deserves a warlord dictator and/or the consequences of not pleasing the upper caste of oligarchs that are always in charge regardless of whomever they elect or appoint. Just for the sporting hell of it all, be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software, as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast) can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel, that can always be 100% verified). “GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif *https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth# *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”, GuthVenus |
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On Friday, May 31, 2013 6:38:43 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote:
How can the planet Venus be so insurmountable? Snipped to save electrons... Answer my question: Are you saying the Apollo missions were faked? |
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