Drive on Opportunity

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/17/43...rive-off-earth

35.76km. Second only to Lunokhod 2 (37km).

Note that taken about 9 years to do what the Apollo astronauts did in a few
days.

I'll take the Mark I eyeball on site when I can.

On May 17, 10:27*pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/17/43...portunity-reco...

35.76km. *Second only to Lunokhod 2 (37km).

Note that taken about 9 years to do what the Apollo astronauts did in a few
days.

I'll take the Mark I eyeball on site when I can.

well if speed is what you want...... that can be done but science
along the way takes time

"bob haller" wrote in message
...

On May 17, 10:27 pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/17/43...portunity-reco...

35.76km. Second only to Lunokhod 2 (37km).

Note that taken about 9 years to do what the Apollo astronauts did in a
few
days.

I'll take the Mark I eyeball on site when I can.

well if speed is what you want...... that can be done but science
along the way takes time

You're missing the point but that's not surprising. Note the Apollo 17
astronauts were doing SCIENCE also. They could just do it about 1,000 times
faster.

The Apollo 17 astronauts weren't out joyriding.





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On May 19, 12:26*pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote:
"bob haller" *wrote in message

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On May 17, 10:27 pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/17/43...portunity-reco....

35.76km. *Second only to Lunokhod 2 (37km).

Note that taken about 9 years to do what the Apollo astronauts did in a
few
days.

I'll take the Mark I eyeball on site when I can.

well if speed is what you want...... that can be done but science
along the way takes time

You're missing the point but that's not surprising. *Note the Apollo 17
astronauts were doing SCIENCE also. *They could just do it about 1,000 times
faster.

The Apollo 17 astronauts weren't out joyriding.



--
Greg D. Moore * * * * * * * * *http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/
CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses.http://www.quicr.net

remote controlled geologists can be the best geogolists on earth, with
super high def cameras it would be like they are there.....

remote controlled geologists can be the best geogolists on earth, with
super high def cameras it would be like they are there.....

Wrong again. *You've gone from missing the point to deliberate lies
about it. *Congratulations.


the apollo stronauts were good astronauts, but not necessarily the
best geologists on earth.

with super high def video, and excellent robotics good science can be
done, without worry abut human contamination

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:24:57 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:


remote controlled geologists can be the best geogolists on earth, with

super high def cameras it would be like they are there.....



Wrong again. *You've gone from missing the point to deliberate lies

about it. *Congratulations.





the apollo stronauts were good astronauts, but not necessarily the

best geologists on earth.



with super high def video, and excellent robotics good science can be

done, without worry abut human contamination

Uh Bob? You do realize they were not on Earth? And they sure were the BEST geologists on the moon? Hmmm, should they be Selenologists?

In article 8d272993-61e1-4f41-9c84-
, says...

On May 17, 10:27*pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/17/43...portunity-reco...

35.76km. *Second only to Lunokhod 2 (37km).

Note that taken about 9 years to do what the Apollo astronauts did in a few
days.

I'll take the Mark I eyeball on site when I can.

well if speed is what you want...... that can be done but science
along the way takes time

And exactly how many samples did *all* of the Mars rovers return to
earth? Zero.

Unmanned rovers "doing science" is quite inferior to manned missions
returning *many* samples to *far* better equipped earth based labs for
detailed analyses.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
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And exactly how many samples did *all* of the Mars rovers return to
earth? Zero.


Even if you want to compare returned lunar samples, Apollo 11 returned 68
times the amount of material returned from all 3 Soviet sample return
missions combined.

And from a larger area.


Unmanned rovers "doing science" is quite inferior to manned missions
returning *many* samples to *far* better equipped earth based labs for
detailed analyses.

Jeff

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"Greg (Strider) Moore" writes:

"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
...


And exactly how many samples did *all* of the Mars rovers return to
earth? Zero.

How much would a manned Mars mission cost?

Even if you want to compare returned lunar samples, Apollo 11 returned
68 times the amount of material returned from all 3 Soviet sample return
missions combined.

And from a larger area.

Selected during 2.5 hours of EVA time. And for much more money.

Using people as biorobots is hideously expensive since you need to keep
them breathing and drinking and eating and comfortable during years of
no science being done at all.

Jochem

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"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

..

Selected during 2.5 hours of EVA time. And for much more money.

Using people as biorobots is hideously expensive since you need to keep
them breathing and drinking and eating and comfortable during years of
no science being done at all.

* * * * Jochem

plus the humans exhausts, like defecation, urine, bacteria, etc etc
will contaminate the samples you are trying to collect