A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Astronomy and Astrophysics » Amateur Astronomy
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 28th 03, 09:16 PM
Sam Wormley
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects

Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects
http://www.spacew.com/swim/bigstorm.html
http://www.spacew.com/swim/ssn-kp8.jpg
  #2  
Old October 28th 03, 09:30 PM
FoneBone
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects

DON'T tell Charles Cagle about this!!!!!!!!!!

Clear, Dark, Steady Skies!
(And considerate neighbors!!!)

  #3  
Old October 28th 03, 10:30 PM
Vincent van der Laan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And FutureProspects

On 28-10-2003 22:16, in article , "Sam Wormley"
wrote:

Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects
http://www.spacew.com/swim/bigstorm.html
http://www.spacew.com/swim/ssn-kp8.jpg


Just wondering: is it possible (in theory) that an extreme storm might be
severe enough to blow away our atmosphere?

Scary thought... (might want to move to Mars

  #4  
Old October 28th 03, 10:53 PM
John R. Copeland
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And FutureProspects

Would you include "supernova" as an "extreme storm"?
---JRC---

"Vincent van der Laan" wrote in message =
...
=20
Just wondering: is it possible (in theory) that an extreme storm might =

be
severe enough to blow away our atmosphere?
=20
Scary thought... (might want to move to Mars

  #5  
Old October 28th 03, 11:23 PM
Vincent van der Laan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History AndFutureProspects

On 28-10-2003 23:53, in article ,
"John R. Copeland" wrote:

Would you include "supernova" as an "extreme storm"?
---JRC---

I would, but the sun is too smal to go nova.
It will first become a red giant and then it will slowly contract and cool
down.

  #6  
Old October 29th 03, 03:28 AM
Bob Greschke
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History AndFutureProspects

But Sirius IS big enough, AND it's big enough, AND it will go off someday.
Then we may just be toast.


"Vincent van der Laan" wrote in message
...
On 28-10-2003 23:53, in article ,
"John R. Copeland" wrote:

Would you include "supernova" as an "extreme storm"?
---JRC---

I would, but the sun is too smal to go nova.
It will first become a red giant and then it will slowly contract and cool
down.





-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
  #7  
Old October 29th 03, 03:41 AM
Jan Owen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History AndFutureProspects

--
To reply, remove the "z" if one appears in my address
"Bob Greschke" wrote in message
...
But Sirius IS big enough, AND it's big enough, AND it will go off

someday.
Then we may just be toast.


I don't think any of US have anything to worry about...



"Vincent van der Laan" wrote in message
...
On 28-10-2003 23:53, in article

,
"John R. Copeland" wrote:

Would you include "supernova" as an "extreme storm"?
---JRC---

I would, but the sun is too smal to go nova.
It will first become a red giant and then it will slowly contract and

cool
down.





-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----



  #8  
Old October 29th 03, 04:35 AM
Sam Wormley
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History AndFutureProspects

Bob Greschke wrote:

But Sirius IS big enough, AND it's big enough, AND it will go off someday.
Then we may just be toast.


Sirius A is only 2.3 solar masses and will not go supernova. Instead it
will become a red giant, but does not orbit close enough to its companion,
Sirius B, a white dwarf to for gas to fall onto the little bugger and create
a Type Ia supernova. Sirius A will eventually become a white dwarf like its
companion that preceded it. This is what will happen to our sun too.
  #9  
Old October 30th 03, 05:32 AM
Jackie
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History AndFutureProspects


"Bob Greschke" wrote in message
...
But Sirius IS big enough, AND it's big enough, AND it will go off someday.
Then we may just be toast.


Sirius "A" IS one of the closest of stars to our own Sun (Sirius is a bit
over 8 light-years away), but it's not large enough to go supernova. If
current theories of stellar evolution hold, when Sirius has exhausted its
nuclear fuel, it will eventually expand to a red giant phase (like our own
Sun will) and eventually cool down to a white dwarf star. The type of
supernova that many giant hot stars may experience is the Type II, which is
the result of the collapse of the great star's core. Our own Sun is neither
hot enough nor large enough to experience such a core collapse, and while
Sirius *is* hotter than our Sun, it's not large enough to go Type II
supernova (core collapse supernovae are reserved for the largest, hottest
and most unstable stars).

However, there is another type of supernova, the type IIa. These take the
scenario of a duo of stars in which both companions revolve close to one
another and one is larger than the other-- the typical scenario here is a
red giant star and a close white dwarf companion. The small white dwarf star
has a huge amount of matter compressed within its small sphere; the red
giant companion is also massive, but its huge outer atmosphere is relatively
sparse and has become massive via its expansion. If the two stars are close
enough to each other, the smaller and more massive of the two can pull some
of the atmosphere off the larger star. At a certain point (the Chandrasekhar
limit, or approx. 1.3-1.4 solar masses) the small star cannot hold any more
mass, and the 'borrowed' mass of its companion beyond that critical point
ignites a thermonuclear reaction.

Insofar as I know, Sirius's white dwarf companion star, the "Pup", orbits
too far away from Sirius to cause the type 11a supernova.

Jackie


  #10  
Old October 29th 03, 02:54 PM
Gary S.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:30:23 +0100, Vincent van der Laan
wrote:

On 28-10-2003 22:16, in article , "Sam Wormley"
wrote:

Severe Geomagnetic Storm Intervals in History And Future Prospects
http://www.spacew.com/swim/bigstorm.html
http://www.spacew.com/swim/ssn-kp8.jpg


Just wondering: is it possible (in theory) that an extreme storm might be
severe enough to blow away our atmosphere?

Scary thought... (might want to move to Mars


It's called a nova, and Mars wouldn't be far enough.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MD History Talk, Roger Launius, "NASA: From the Past to the Future" LooseChanj History 14 August 10th 03 02:16 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.