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http://www.websters-dictionary-onlin...ppler%20effect
"In the limit where the speed of the wave is much greater than the relative speed of the source and observer (this is often the case with electromagnetic waves, e.g. light), the relationship between observed frequency f' and emitted frequency f is given by: Change in frequency delta_f = fv/c = v/lambda Observed frequency f' = f + fv/c where f is the transmitted frequency; v is the velocity of the transmitter relative to the receiver in meters per second: positive when moving towards one another, negative when moving away; c is the speed of wave (3~108 m/s for electromagnetic waves travelling in a vacuum); lambda is the wavelength of the transmitted wave subject to change. _______________________________________ [end of quotation] For a century Einsteinians have been trying to combine the above formulas with the formula: f' = c'/lambda where c' is the speed of the wave relative to the observer. They have had some success with some waves but not with light waves: any time they perform the procedure they obtain c'=c+v which is of course absurd, impossible, disastrous etc. The problem is so difficult that some Einsteinians suspect that it has no solution at all. Pentcho Valev |
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The most difficult problem in relativity unsolved at University
College London: http://www.cmmp.ucl.ac.uk/~ahh/teach...24n/lect19.pdf Tony Harker, University College London: "The Doppler Effect: Moving sources and receivers. The phenomena which occur when a source of sound is in motion are well known. The example which is usually cited is the change in pitch of the engine of a moving vehicle as it approaches. In our treatment we shall not specify the type of wave motion involved, and our results will be applicable to sound and light. (...) Now suppose that the observer is moving with a velocity Vo away from the source. We can tackle this case directly in the same way as we treated the moving source. If the observer moves with a speed Vo away from the source (...), then in a time t the number of waves which reach the observer are those in a distance ct-Vo*t, so the number of waves observed is (ct-Vo*t)/lambda, giving an observed frequency f'=f((c-Vo)/c) when the observer is moving away from the source at a speed Vo." Einsteinians at UCL combine the formula f'=f((c-Vo)/c) with f'=c'/ lambda (c' is the speed of the wave relative to the observer) and obtain c'=c-Vo. "That is correct for sound", they say, "but for light... no, absurd, impossible, Divine Einstein, yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity!" Eventually Einsteinians come to the coclusion that the problem has no solution at all. Pentcho Valev |
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A second unsolvable problem in relativity: Light falls and even
accelerates in a gravitational field but its speed does not change, no it doesn't, impossible, absurd, help, Divine Einstein, yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity: http://sethi.lamar.edu/bahrim-cristi...t-lens_PPT.pdf Dr. Cristian Bahrim: "If we accept the principle of equivalence, we must also accept that light falls in a gravitational field with the same acceleration as material bodies. In the laboratory frame the light ray will be accelerated downward with the acceleration of the laboratory. In a uniform gravitational field the light accelerates downward with the local acceleration of gravity." http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q1635.html Question: "When a photon falls in a gravitational well, does its speed exceed 'c'?" Dr. Sten Odenwald: "No. The frequency of the light just increases or decreases depending on where you are located. The 'local' speed stays the same as measured by someone falling into the well and watching it pass by. This is the only observer who is in what relativity would consider a 'proper rest frame'." Pentcho Valev |
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The most difficult problem in relativity unsolved at UCSD:
http://physics.ucsd.edu/students/cou...ecture5-11.pdf "Doppler Shift. As long as the velocity of the observer, v, is much smaller than the speed of light, c, (for the case of sound waves much smaller than the speed of sound) then the expression that we derived is a very good approximation. Taking into account v may be in the opposite direction f'=f(1v/c). At this point you might ask why the shift in direction from the discussion of the equivalence principle. Soon, as we shall see, we can put this together with the equivalence principle to derive the gravitational redshift of light! Gravitational Redshift of Light. In 1960 Pound and Rebka and later, 1965, with an improved version Pound and Snider measured the gravitational redshift of light using the Harvard tower, h=22.6m. From the equivalence principle, at the instant the light is emitted from the transmitter, only a freely falling observer will measure the same value of f that was emitted by the transmitter. But the stationary receiver is not free falling. During the time it takes light to travel to the top of the tower, t=h/c, the receiver is traveling at a velocity, v=gt, away from a free falling receiver. Hence the measured frequency is: f'=f(1- v/c)=f(1-gh/c^2)." Einsteinians at UCSD combine the equations f'=f(1-v/c)=f(1-gh/c^2) with f'=c'/lambda (c' is the speed of the light relative to the observer/receiver) and obtain c'=c-v=c(1-gh/c^2). "It all looks so logical", they say, "and yet that is... no, impossible, absurd, Newton's emission theory, help, help, Divine Einstein, yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity!" Eventually Einsteinians come to the coclusion that the problem has no solution at all. Pentcho Valev |
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On Jan 17, 10:53*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
The most difficult problem in relativity unsolved at UCSD: http://physics.ucsd.edu/students/cou...ed/physics11/d... "Doppler Shift. As long as the velocity of the observer, v, is much smaller than the speed of light, c, (for the case of sound waves much smaller than the speed of sound) then the expression that we derived is a very good approximation. Taking into account v may be in the opposite direction f'=f(1v/c). At this point you might ask why the shift in direction from the discussion of the equivalence principle. Soon, as we shall see, we can put this together with the equivalence principle to derive the gravitational redshift of light! Gravitational Redshift of Light. In 1960 Pound and Rebka and later, 1965, with an improved version Pound and Snider measured the gravitational redshift of light using the Harvard tower, h=22.6m. From the equivalence principle, at the instant the light is emitted from the transmitter, only a freely falling observer will measure the same value of f that was emitted by the transmitter. But the stationary receiver is not free falling. During the time it takes light to travel to the top of the tower, t=h/c, the receiver is traveling at a velocity, v=gt, away from a free falling receiver. Hence the measured frequency is: f'=f(1- v/c)=f(1-gh/c^2)." Einsteinians at UCSD combine the equations f'=f(1-v/c)=f(1-gh/c^2) with f'=c'/lambda (c' is the speed of the light relative to the observer/receiver) and obtain c'=c-v=c(1-gh/c^2). "It all looks so logical", they say, "and yet that is... no, impossible, absurd, Newton's emission theory, help, help, Divine Einstein, yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity!" Eventually Einsteinians come to the coclusion that the problem has no solution at all. Pentcho Valev Idiot |
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Professor Carl Mungan is torturing brothers Einsteinians (below
lambda, the wavelength symbol Mungan uses, is replaced by L): http://www.usna.edu/Users/physics/mu...plerEffect.pdf Carl Mungan: "Special Case II: Moving Observer (with Stationary Source and Medium). Here L'=L because the medium is at rest relative to the source. Absent special relativistic effects, lengths are frame- invariant quantities. Consider the case where the observer moves toward the source. In this case, the observer is rushing head-long into the wavefronts, so that we expect v'v. In fact, the wave speed is simply increased by the observer speed, as we can see by jumping into the observer's frame of reference. Thus, v'=v+v_o=v(1+v_o/v). Finally, the frequency must increase by exactly the same factor as the wave speed increased, in order to ensure that L'=L - v'/f'=v/f. Putting everything together, we thus have: OBSERVER MOVING TOWARD SOURCE: L'=L; f'=f(1+v_o/v); v'=v+v_o." At first the only formula brothers Einsteinians see is v'=v+v_o showing how the speed of the wave (relative to the observer) varies with the speed of the observer. Their initial reaction is: "What? No! Impossible! Absurd! Variable speed of light? Help! Help! Divine Einstein! Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity!" Then brothers Einsteinians realize that the panic is perhaps not justified - Mungan clearly says "Absent special relativistic effects, lengths are frame-invariant quantities". Now brothers Einsteinians' reaction is: "Yes! Yes! Yes! Oh yes! The moving observer may not be able to change the wavelength outside special relativity but in special relativity he does change it and that's it! Divine Einstein! Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity!" In the end the feeling is gloomy again. Mungan obtains the correct formula for Doppler shift in light waves, f'=f(1+v_o/v), based on the false assumption that the wavelength does not change. Perhaps the assumption is not quite false? Perhaps the wavelength does not vary with the speed of the observer after all? But then... Brothers Einsteinians feel like Dido after Aeneas left her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVhvl... DC4254351D96 "Remember me, remember me, but ah! Forget my fate. Remember me, but ah! Forget my fate. Remember me, remember me, but ah! Forget my fate. Remember me, but ah! Forget my fate." Pentcho Valev |
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