Russia celebrates Space Station completion by planning to drop it inthe Pacific Ocean.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P

David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-sink-internat
ional-space-station-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle out.

2) China will fragment internally. The coastal cities and regions are
making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some of it to
the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to tell the
coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to us; mainly it
means China won't be much of a player on the world scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as it
rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers. It won't
get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European states. It will
end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)

Dennis

"Dennis" wrote in message
. 4.11...
David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-sink-internat
ional-space-station-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle out.


It already has. The death of bin Laden set off hints of protests.



2) China will fragment internally.


It should fragment suddenly and dramatically
into several new nations. When the govt is rigid
and unchanging, but the needs and opinions of
the people constantly evolve, the two camps
must steadily drift apart. The internal stress there
must be enormous.

It's the largest house of cards ever. Just waiting
for some kind of event or martyr to bring it down.
I doubt if China will last five years, let along ten.
It could happen at any time.


The coastal cities and regions are
making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some of it to
the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to tell the
coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to us; mainly it
means China won't be much of a player on the world scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as it
rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers. It won't
get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European states. It will
end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)


Russia is still smarting from the pressure we put on them
to splash the old Mir space station, so they could keep
up with their part of the ISS construction.


Dennis

Il 27/07/2011 23:37, Dennis ha scritto:


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle out.

2) China will fragment internally. The coastal cities and regions are
making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some of it to
the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to tell the
coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to us; mainly it
means China won't be much of a player on the world scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as it
rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers. It won't
get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European states. It will
end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)

In what year was published ? and from the date of publication until now
what is the rate of successful predictions ?

Anyway, I highly mistrust "laity" (so to speak) predictions...

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

dott.Piergiorgio wrote:

Il 27/07/2011 23:37, Dennis ha scritto:


Interesting! I'm reading "The Next 100 Years" by George Friedman of
STRATFOR. His predictions to 2020 a

1) We're at the end of the Islamic-terrorism war, which will fizzle
out.

2) China will fragment internally. The coastal cities and regions
are making all the money. The central gov't will want to send some
of it to the interior but won't be able to, so they won't be able to
tell the coastal areas what to do. This may not be very wisible to
us; mainly it means China won't be much of a player on the world
scene.

3) OTOH, there will be a mini-repeat of the Cold War with Russia as
it rebuilds militarily and tries to rebuild its strategic buffers.
It won't get very hot. The US will ally with the Eastern European
states. It will end about like the last one around 2020.

So, could this be the first play? :-)

In what year was published ? and from the date of publication until
now what is the rate of successful predictions ?

Anyway, I highly mistrust "laity" (so to speak) predictions...

Pubished in 2009. Too early to say about which predictions are
successful. 1) seems to be on track, but it's too early to say. As for
3) Russia has been flexing its muscles for a while now, but I don't know
if it'll succeed in rebuilding its military in time for it to mean
anything. Perhaps that's why it loses Cold War II by 2020.

For US sake, let's hope 2) is correct. We've been watching China's naval
developments here, but we recognize that those will take decades.

Do you mean that you trust spiritual/esoteric predictions more?

Geopolitics is what I tend to believe, and he has at least a good command
of it. As I said, he runs the STRATFOR site, which has good analyses.

Dennis

David E. Powell wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/


In point of fact that represents an EXTENSION of its life. The
original plan was to decommission it by 2015

Keith

On 27/07/2011 21:05, David E. Powell wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P

Nothing to worry about 2020 is when NASA stops funding the International
Space Station. The Russians are just working out what to do about the mess.

Andrew Swallow

Fred J. McCall wrote:
Andrew Swallow wrote:

On 27/07/2011 21:05, David E. Powell wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P

Nothing to worry about 2020 is when NASA stops funding the
International Space Station. The Russians are just working out what
to do about the mess.


Under international law, once we stop funding it we pretty much have
an obligation to reenter all the pieces we launched to make sure they
don't hit anything when they come down.

Actually the USA is only responsible for the bits it put in orbit.
The Russians are already looking at the possibility of reusing
some of the modules they launched.

Keith

On 29/07/2011 04:25, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Keith wrote:

Fred J. McCall wrote:
Andrew wrote:

On 27/07/2011 21:05, David E. Powell wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P

Nothing to worry about 2020 is when NASA stops funding the
International Space Station. The Russians are just working out what
to do about the mess.


Under international law, once we stop funding it we pretty much have
an obligation to reenter all the pieces we launched to make sure they
don't hit anything when they come down.

Actually the USA is only responsible for the bits it put in orbit.


Actually that's exactly what I said, hence the phrase "all the pieces
we launched".


Although it may be simpler to bring the whole of the ISS down in one go.

Andrew Swallow

Fred J. McCall wrote:

"Keith Willshaw" wrote:


Fred J. McCall wrote:

Andrew Swallow wrote:


On 27/07/2011 21:05, David E. Powell wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ation-in-2020/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...plans-to-sink-
international-space-station-in-2020/

Yeah, stripping NASA is a great idea.... :P

Nothing to worry about 2020 is when NASA stops funding the
International Space Station. The Russians are just working out what
to do about the mess.


Under international law, once we stop funding it we pretty much have
an obligation to reenter all the pieces we launched to make sure they
don't hit anything when they come down.

Actually the USA is only responsible for the bits it put in orbit.



Actually that's exactly what I said, hence the phrase "all the pieces
we launched".

Damn, Fwed, you are *exactly* right again, as any intelligent
person can read for themselves! (willshaw can't read?)