NASA too afraid to name JWST costs

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n...wst/index.html

This POS has already cost $3.5 billion and is slated to cost *at least*
$6.5 billion before it gets off the ground and I wouldn't be surprised
that it heads towards $10 billion before it gets axed. It needs to be
killed now before it eats up NASA's entire budget. This thing is a
black hole

That $3.5 billion spent has resulted in no more than a full-size
mockup, a few mirrors and the sunshield (basically a foldable tent).
Why oh why didn't they just build another Hubble-clone for a couple
hundred million or maybe even $1 billion?!! I'd rather see NASA spent
all this cash handing it over to the commercial companies like SpaceX
and Sierra Nevada so we can get people back up into space. Smaller
science missions are also being jeapordized because of JWST.

Worst of all is that NASA simply does not want to name the estimated
cost of JWST for fear of being punished.

On Jul 15, 10:34*am, Kulin Remailer wrote:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n...wst/index.html

This POS has already cost $3.5 billion and is slated to cost *at least*
$6.5 billion before it gets off the ground and I wouldn't be surprised
that it heads towards $10 billion before it gets axed. It needs to be
killed now before it eats up NASA's entire budget. This thing is a
black hole

That $3.5 billion spent has resulted in no more than a full-size
mockup, a few mirrors and the sunshield (basically a foldable tent).
Why oh why didn't they just build another Hubble-clone for a couple
hundred million or maybe even $1 billion?!! I'd rather see NASA spent
all this cash handing it over to the commercial companies like SpaceX
and Sierra Nevada so we can get people back up into space. Smaller
science missions are also being jeapordized because of JWST.

Worst of all is that NASA simply does not want to name the estimated
cost of JWST for fear of being punished.

Plus NASA has that mars rover with a failed RTG.

To sum it up NASA is out of the launching astronaut business

NASA has failed to bring JWST in anywhere near budget or schedule

NASA has failed to bring the new mars rover / science station anywhere
near budget or on time.

NASA is about as dysfunctional as congress.

Wonder what will go wrong about ISS?

perhaps someone will ask about all the earth shaking science ISS has
failed to produce?

lets make it easier please name something NASA is doing well other
than spending money?

On 16/07/2011 12:34 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote:


You're nothing but a coward

On Jul 15, 10:55*am, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 16/07/2011 12:34 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote:

You're nothing but a coward

name anything nasa is doing well..........

make a list check it twice, sadly it will be short to non existent

On 16/07/2011 1:23 AM, bob haller wrote:
On Jul 15, 10:55 am, Alan wrote:
On 16/07/2011 12:34 AM, Kulin Remailer wrote:

You're nothing but a coward

name anything nasa is doing well..........

make a list check it twice, sadly it will be short to non existent

S/H/it is a coward because s/h/it is using a remailer - anonymous.

bob haller wrote:

name anything nasa is doing well..........

The vast majority of the unmanned interplanetary probes. Looking at the
projects funded by NASA it will be easy to come up with a very long list
of lesser known aviation projects.

On Jul 15, 2:56*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
bob haller wrote:

name anything nasa is doing well..........

The vast majority of the unmanned interplanetary probes. *Looking at the
projects funded by NASA it will be easy to come up with a very long list
of lesser known aviation projects.

sorry currently doing well.......

"Kulin Remailer" wrote in message
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n...wst/index.html

This POS has already cost $3.5 billion and is slated to cost *at least*
$6.5 billion before it gets off the ground and I wouldn't be surprised
that it heads towards $10 billion before it gets axed. It needs to be
killed now before it eats up NASA's entire budget. This thing is a
black hole


And just in case the point is missed. Reality is cyclic in character.
Once something has settled into an 'orbit' it isn't possible to
determine the point at which the orbit started. And even
if you could, who cares?

The higher the level of organization, the less the initial conditions
can be determined, and the less they matter. The self-tuning
properties of evolving systems cause them to converge on the
ideal regardless of their starting points.

In fact, the more random and disorganized the initial conditions
the more likely for spontaneous organization.

For instance, when a supernova disturbs a large interstellar cloud
of gas and dust, stars and solar systems are born. Or, cyclic
order emerges from the random disturbance of a totally
random system. THAT IS OUR ORIGIN.

A cloud of uncertainty.

You can't see that in a telescope, there is no 'evidence'
of our origins to find. It's something we can only know.


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bob haller wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
bob haller wrote:

name anything nasa is doing well..........

The vast majority of the unmanned interplanetary probes. *Looking at the
projects funded by NASA it will be easy to come up with a very long list
of lesser known aviation projects.

sorry currently doing well.......

Do you have any idea how many unmanned space probes are out and about
right now? Clearly not.

On Jul 16, 2:31*am, Doug Freyburger wrote:
bob haller wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
bob haller wrote:

name anything nasa is doing well..........

The vast majority of the unmanned interplanetary probes. *Looking at the
projects funded by NASA it will be easy to come up with a very long list
of lesser known aviation projects.

sorry currently doing well.......

Do you have any idea how many unmanned space probes are out and about
right now? *Clearly not.

how many has nasa launched in the last 5 years?

you really cant count the old ones which nasa built so long ago to
very high standards.....

like stuff everywhere the old models were built to be high quality and
really over designed.

newer products are built to a price point to maximise profit....
without regard to life, quality, dependability, etc etc

judging by the RTG this situation has now reached nasas interplanetary
probe mentality.

most amazing is not only are we now building crap but posters here
want to send crap that at best will be semi functional on its way. go
fever it must launch yeah its not working well but it will be fine
dont worry about it

spirit and opportunity were a notable exception,,,,,

but nasa tossed away the design that worked so well