NASA Announces New Homes For Shuttle Orbiters After Retirement

In article ,
says...

NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

JSC and USAF Museum both got the shaft. I can see LA, maybe, so that
the west cost has a shuttle, but New York City? It's so close to D.C.
that this makes no rational sense to me.

JSC gets "Flight deck pilot and commander seats". I'm guessing these
were the flown e-seats for Columbia? Very historically significant, but
still, two seats?

Seattle gets the "Full fuselage trainer" and the USAF Museum gets "Nose
cap assembly and crew compartment trainer". Wow, a crew compartment
trainer for 10 DOD flights and crucial financial and political support
of the shuttle program.

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

On Apr 13, 8:22*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...



NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

JSC and USAF Museum both got the shaft. *I can see LA, maybe, so that
the west cost has a shuttle, but New York City? *It's so close to D.C.
that this makes no rational sense to me.

JSC gets "Flight deck pilot and commander seats". *I'm guessing these
were the flown e-seats for Columbia? *Very historically significant, but
still, two seats? *

Seattle gets the "Full fuselage trainer" and the USAF Museum gets "Nose
cap assembly and crew compartment trainer". *Wow, a crew compartment
trainer for 10 DOD flights and crucial financial and political support
of the shuttle program. *

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

Well at least they are spread across the country/

If shuttle management had done its job better there would be 2
additional orbiters to display.With 2 crews still alive to talk about
their experiences/

theres no way to make everyone happy

On Apr 13, 6:03*am, bob haller wrote:
On Apr 13, 8:22*am, Jeff Findley wrote:









In article ,
says...

NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

JSC and USAF Museum both got the shaft. *I can see LA, maybe, so that
the west cost has a shuttle, but New York City? *It's so close to D.C..
that this makes no rational sense to me.

JSC gets "Flight deck pilot and commander seats". *I'm guessing these
were the flown e-seats for Columbia? *Very historically significant, but
still, two seats? *

Seattle gets the "Full fuselage trainer" and the USAF Museum gets "Nose
cap assembly and crew compartment trainer". *Wow, a crew compartment
trainer for 10 DOD flights and crucial financial and political support
of the shuttle program. *

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

Well at least they are spread across the country/

If shuttle *management had done its job better there would be 2
additional orbiters to display.With 2 crews still alive to talk about
their experiences/

theres no way to make everyone happy

Actually, if the mutually perpetrated cold-war wasn't such as Semitic
orchestrated ****-ass thing for government job security, that wasted
decades and cost the world trillions per decade, by now we'd have
fleets of shuttles, including those suitable for direct lunar
transporting as well as others for the planet Venus.

We'd also have the LSE-CM/ISS and Venus L2 as our outpost/gateways to
work with.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
Guth Venus, at ten times resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://docs.google.com/File?id=ddsdxhv_4fdgd46df_b

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

In article ef62b802-a62f-4cd5-a379-cfd90c7468a8
@r6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 13, 8:22*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...



NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

JSC and USAF Museum both got the shaft. *I can see LA, maybe, so that
the west cost has a shuttle, but New York City? *It's so close to D.C.
that this makes no rational sense to me.

JSC gets "Flight deck pilot and commander seats". *I'm guessing these
were the flown e-seats for Columbia? *Very historically significant, but
still, two seats? *

Seattle gets the "Full fuselage trainer" and the USAF Museum gets "Nose
cap assembly and crew compartment trainer". *Wow, a crew compartment
trainer for 10 DOD flights and crucial financial and political support
of the shuttle program. *

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

Well at least they are spread across the country

Not really. Three out of four orbiters are located on the East Coast.
The last is on the West Coast. This leaves nothing between.

With NYC so close to D.C. I wouldn't say they're "spread out", at least
not by much. If your goal was to spread them out, I would have sent
Enterprise to JSC, the USAF Museum in Dayton, or maybe even Chicago
instead of to NYC!

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

In article ,
says...

In article ef62b802-a62f-4cd5-a379-cfd90c7468a8
@r6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 13, 8:22*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...



NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

JSC and USAF Museum both got the shaft. *I can see LA, maybe, so that
the west cost has a shuttle, but New York City? *It's so close to D.C.
that this makes no rational sense to me.

JSC gets "Flight deck pilot and commander seats". *I'm guessing these
were the flown e-seats for Columbia? *Very historically significant, but
still, two seats? *

Seattle gets the "Full fuselage trainer" and the USAF Museum gets "Nose
cap assembly and crew compartment trainer". *Wow, a crew compartment
trainer for 10 DOD flights and crucial financial and political support
of the shuttle program. *

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

Well at least they are spread across the country

Not really. Three out of four orbiters are located on the East Coast.
The last is on the West Coast. This leaves nothing between.

With NYC so close to D.C. I wouldn't say they're "spread out", at least
not by much. If your goal was to spread them out, I would have sent
Enterprise to JSC, the USAF Museum in Dayton, or maybe even Chicago
instead of to NYC!

On second thought, give Enterprise to LA since California is the only
place it performed drop-tests! That would mean give a real, flown into
space, orbiter to JSC!

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...
NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

And we were worried about all those ULA layoffs... I see a new headline
coming soon...


CONGRESS TO FUND UNITED LAUNCH ALLIANCE AND LOCKHEED MARTIN PLANS TO BUILD
SHUTTLE REPLICAS

Political gaffs bring about change of heart, replicas to go to previously
snubbed sites all over country. Program will retain ULA employees scheduled
for layoff. Lockheed Martin to add shifts.

Washington DC (Not AP) - In a stunning bi-partisan joint announcement
Congressmen from the states of Washington and Colorado today announced a newly
funded program to build space shuttle replicas....

;-)

Dave

On 4/13/2011 8:35 AM, David Spain wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says...
NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

And we were worried about all those ULA layoffs... I see a new headline
coming soon...


CONGRESS TO FUND UNITED LAUNCH ALLIANCE AND LOCKHEED MARTIN PLANS TO BUILD
SHUTTLE REPLICAS

Political gaffs bring about change of heart, replicas to go to
previously snubbed sites all over country. Program will retain ULA
employees scheduled for layoff. Lockheed Martin to add shifts.

Washington DC (Not AP) - In a stunning bi-partisan joint announcement
Congressmen from the states of Washington and Colorado today announced a
newly funded program to build space shuttle replicas....

Comrade! All that needs be done is take some old Burans, add some fake
SSME rocket nozzles to the tail end, and give them a new paint job.

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:
On 4/13/2011 8:35 AM, David Spain wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...
NASA ANNOUNCES NEW HOMES FOR SHUTTLE ORBITERS AFTER RETIREMENT

Anyone else as ticked off as I am about this?

And we were worried about all those ULA layoffs... I see a new headline
coming soon...


CONGRESS TO FUND UNITED LAUNCH ALLIANCE AND LOCKHEED MARTIN PLANS TO
BUILD
SHUTTLE REPLICAS

Political gaffs bring about change of heart, replicas to go to
previously snubbed sites all over country. Program will retain ULA
employees scheduled for layoff. Lockheed Martin to add shifts.


Comrade! All that needs be done is take some old Burans, add some fake
SSME rocket nozzles to the tail end, and give them a new paint job.


That comes next year whilst the media is distracted by the elections...

CONGRESS APPROVES PLAN TO OUTSOURCE REPLICA CONSTRUCTION

Plan opposed by minority of representatives; Congress adjourns ahead of
schedule so members may return home before elections.

Washington DC (Not the WSJ) - In a late night session, Congress wrapped up
final business in the early morning hours, passing a plan to cut federal
spending by outsourcing many federal projects including the one to build
shuttle replicas. Congressman Frankly Bernard hailed the last minute
compromise as a way to save the taxpayers money whilst still providing the
replicas to those regions that felt betrayed when NASA decided which cities in
the US where to receive actual space shuttles. "In no way do I feel that
anything or anyone has been compromised.", the congressman was quoted as
saying. The contracts will remain with the prime contractors, but due to cost
overruns, most of the construction has been slated to be moved to the cheaper
labor markets of Outer Buttcrackistan. When queried about whether the rumors
that some of the parts suppliers have also been outsourced, to countries such
as Russia, the congressman's office did not reply by this article's
deadline... In other news...

Dave

On 4/13/2011 12:48 PM, David Spain wrote:
Comrade! All that needs be done is take some old Burans, add some fake
SSME rocket nozzles to the tail end, and give them a new paint job.


That comes next year whilst the media is distracted by the elections...

CONGRESS APPROVES PLAN TO OUTSOURCE REPLICA CONSTRUCTION

Speaking of replica things, ever seen this?:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2621144/posts

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:

Speaking of replica things, ever seen this?:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../2621144/posts


Not till now. Nice paint job on that one.

Speaking of replicas, did I ever show you this one?
Not a big deal, until you realize, I took this one myself, with
my own 35mm camera with only a 50mm lens, in... 1989...

http://tinyurl.com/3dguw9b

Oh yeah I was that close...

:-)

Ellsworth AFB used to get interesting 'junk' from those who did
that Honda advertisement....

Dave