The purpose of ISS is operations:(

In article 95f446e3-b496-40fa-9bc7-d2b5e9a9b910@
29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says...

lets not forget the cost of ISS has been ISS directly plus all the
shuttle costs.

Even a billion here a billion there adds up over time

The high cost of shuttle operations won't be a factor anymore. Any
future launches of modules should be made on less expensive vehicles.

The shuttle program is ending and ISS construction is (nearly) complete.
The biggest costs to ISS were almost certainly R&D costs plus building
the modules plus launching (shuttle) and assembling (shuttle) the
modules. There may be a few additional modules added over the years,
but much of the R&D is done (e.g. structures, CBM, and interface type
hardware).

ISS should become a bit less expensive (on a per year basis) because of
these factors.

Jeff
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ISS should become a bit less expensive (on a per year basis) because of
these factors.

Jeff

Well call me skeptical, since they said once we get a full crew
science will begin in ernest.

Well ernest never arrived, operations is now the purpose of ISS.

maybe they should of been honest and just admitted ISS purpose was to
give shuttle a job and spend boatloads of money?

Le 22/12/10 21:41, bob haller safety advocate a écrit :

ISS should become a bit less expensive (on a per year basis) because of
these factors.

Jeff

Well call me skeptical, since they said once we get a full crew
science will begin in ernest.

Well ernest never arrived, operations is now the purpose of ISS.

maybe they should of been honest and just admitted ISS purpose was to
give shuttle a job and spend boatloads of money?

ISS permits to test materials, procedures, and develop the basic
capability of living in space for extended periods.

If humans are going to ever leave this planet to get into another
one the experience gained with the ISS is fundamental. That is
plain obvious except for the people that do not want to see.

"Operations" is not just wasted time, it is accumulating space
experience, experience with recycling (for instance water recycling)
experience with materials, with software, power supplies etc.

How do materials react in space? How do electronic circuits,
computers, react in space?

But that is beyond accounting, beyond this eternal money and
pennies accounting, budgets, profits, return of investment,
and all this crap that republicans know well to balance
when they want to destroy something.

No such accounting is ever done for other, much more important
goals like saving AIG (that money could have pay for a moon
colony!) or the eternal wars and war games that bring only
death and destruction to everyone.

Positive goals like science, space exploration, medicine
agriculture are no longer feasible, they just disappear from
view and we have to support the eternal cries of the
"me too" here complaining about those "boatloads of money"
spent in somehing so stupid like the establishment of a permanent
human base at the border of space.

Men walk upright so they can see the stars.

Worms crawl, so they can thrive on rot and decay.

Choose what you are Mr haller.

On Dec 23, 10:50*am, jacob navia wrote:
Le 22/12/10 21:41, bob haller safety advocate a crit :



ISS should become a bit less expensive (on a per year basis) because of
these factors.

Jeff

Well call me skeptical, since they said once we get a full crew
science will begin in ernest.

Well ernest never arrived, operations is now the purpose of ISS.

maybe they should of been honest and just admitted ISS purpose was to
give shuttle a job and spend boatloads of money?

ISS permits to test materials, procedures, and develop the basic
capability of living in space for extended periods.

If humans are going to ever leave this planet to get into another
one the experience gained with the ISS is fundamental. That is
plain obvious except for the people that do not want to see.

"Operations" is not just wasted time, it is accumulating space
experience, experience with recycling (for instance water recycling)
experience with materials, with software, power supplies etc.

How do materials react in space? How do electronic circuits,
computers, react in space?

But that is beyond accounting, beyond this eternal money and
pennies accounting, budgets, profits, return of investment,
and all this crap that republicans know well to balance
when they want to destroy something.

No such accounting is ever done for other, much more important
goals like saving AIG (that money could have pay for a moon
colony!) or the eternal wars and war games that bring only
death and destruction to everyone.

Positive goals like science, space exploration, medicine
agriculture are no longer feasible, they just disappear from
view and we have to support the eternal cries of the
"me too" here complaining about those "boatloads of money"
spent in somehing so stupid like the establishment of a permanent
human base at the border of space.

Men walk upright so they can see the stars.

Worms crawl, so they can thrive on rot and decay.

Choose what you are Mr haller.

then fine ISS shouldnt of been sold for science nasa should of
admitted were doing it for operations, to practice for some day in the
far flung future where science might occur.

disappoint the voters in such a large degree is excellent way to get
your budget zeroed