What causes the seasons

Traditionally,the seasons were explained using a vague reference to
'tilt' as though the orientation of the Earth to the Sun was
responsible for temperature fluctuations at different latitudes.

The actual cause of the seasons and a suitable explanation reflecting
the planetary dynamics behind these changes is quite different and
requires the isolation of daily and orbital characteristics.This is
achieved by focusing on the planet's two daylight/darkness cycles and
the individual cause of each insofar as we experience the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation and the entirely
separate polar daylight/darkness cycle where ,after a brief twilight
period at the orbital point of the equinoxes,6 months of darkness
turns into 6 months of daylight and visa versa.

The polar coordinates,where daily rotation is absent or residual,pass
through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and these polar
coordinates act like a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth
insofar as aside from daily rotation,all locations on the planet would
experience a single daylight/darkness cycle as our planet,moving along
its orbital circumference turns through 360 degrees to the central Sun
over the course of an annual orbit.It takes a broom handle to
substitute for daily rotation and its orientation and any object to
act as the central Sun to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
by walking around/orbiting the central object/Sun.The broom
handle ,again,acting for 'tilt',only provides a window into the
orbital behavior of the Earth as a person must walk backwards in
circling the object,sometimes crabbing sideways before walking
forwards in completing a circuit.As a person will observe that
different parts of their body face the central object at different
points from an orbital line perpendicular to the central object/Sun,
like a separate longitudinal motion that runs from a line from Arctic
circle down to Antarctic circle rather than the traditional view of
referencing axial 'tilt' or inclination to the Sun.

In short,an additional piece of information is required to explain the
seasons or why natural noon cycles vary when allied with daily
rotation and the most suitable route is through acknowledging the
planet's two daylight/darkness cycle with the explanation for the
latter strictly an orbital characteristic.I do not have to remind
readers that the inability to explain the polar daylight/darkness
cycle is not that much more difficult than explaining the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation so people have now a
gauge as to how astronomically intuitive they are .

Once an astronomer sees the polar twilight sandwiched between polar
daylight and polar darkness in terms of the passage of the polar
coordinates through the circle of illumination they will be unable to
work with 'tilt' as the cause,the role of 'tilt' goes into determining
whether a planet has a largely equatorial climate like the Earth or a
polar climate such as Uranus which has unique axial orientation.

"oriel36" wrote in message
...
Traditionally,the seasons were explained using a vague reference to
'tilt' as though the orientation of the Earth to the Sun was
responsible for temperature fluctuations at different latitudes.

The actual cause of the seasons and a suitable explanation reflecting
the planetary dynamics behind these changes is quite different and
requires the isolation of daily and orbital characteristics.This is
achieved by focusing on the planet's two daylight/darkness cycles and
the individual cause of each insofar as we experience the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation and the entirely
separate polar daylight/darkness cycle where ,after a brief twilight
period at the orbital point of the equinoxes,6 months of darkness
turns into 6 months of daylight and visa versa.

The polar coordinates,where daily rotation is absent or residual,pass
through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and these polar
coordinates act like a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth
insofar as aside from daily rotation,all locations on the planet would
experience a single daylight/darkness cycle as our planet,moving along
its orbital circumference turns through 360 degrees to the central Sun
over the course of an annual orbit.It takes a broom handle to
substitute for daily rotation and its orientation and any object to
act as the central Sun to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
by walking around/orbiting the central object/Sun.The broom
handle ,again,acting for 'tilt',only provides a window into the
orbital behavior of the Earth as a person must walk backwards in
circling the object,sometimes crabbing sideways before walking
forwards in completing a circuit.As a person will observe that
different parts of their body face the central object at different
points from an orbital line perpendicular to the central object/Sun,
like a separate longitudinal motion that runs from a line from Arctic
circle down to Antarctic circle rather than the traditional view of
referencing axial 'tilt' or inclination to the Sun.

In short,an additional piece of information is required to explain the
seasons or why natural noon cycles vary when allied with daily
rotation and the most suitable route is through acknowledging the
planet's two daylight/darkness cycle with the explanation for the
latter strictly an orbital characteristic.I do not have to remind
readers that the inability to explain the polar daylight/darkness
cycle is not that much more difficult than explaining the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation so people have now a
gauge as to how astronomically intuitive they are .

Once an astronomer sees the polar twilight sandwiched between polar
daylight and polar darkness in terms of the passage of the polar
coordinates through the circle of illumination they will be unable to
work with 'tilt' as the cause,the role of 'tilt' goes into determining
whether a planet has a largely equatorial climate like the Earth or a
polar climate such as Uranus which has unique axial orientation.


Never in the field of human usenet has a dafter thing been written.

On Jun 27, 9:41*pm, "johnbee" wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

...





Traditionally,the seasons were explained using a vague reference to
'tilt' as though the orientation of the Earth to the Sun was
responsible for temperature fluctuations at different latitudes.

The actual cause of the seasons and a suitable explanation reflecting
the planetary dynamics behind these changes is quite different and
requires the isolation of daily and orbital characteristics.This is
achieved by focusing on the planet's two daylight/darkness cycles and
the individual cause of each insofar as we experience the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation and the entirely
separate polar daylight/darkness cycle where ,after a brief twilight
period at the orbital point of the equinoxes,6 months of darkness
turns into 6 months of daylight and visa versa.

The polar coordinates,where daily rotation is absent or residual,pass
through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and these polar
coordinates act like a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth
insofar as aside from daily rotation,all locations on the planet would
experience a single daylight/darkness cycle as our planet,moving along
its orbital circumference turns through 360 degrees to the central Sun
over the course of an annual orbit.It takes a broom handle to
substitute for daily rotation and its orientation and any object to
act as *the central Sun to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
by walking around/orbiting the central object/Sun.The broom
handle ,again,acting for 'tilt',only provides a window into the
orbital behavior of the Earth as a person must walk backwards in
circling the object,sometimes crabbing sideways before walking
forwards in completing a circuit.As a person will observe that
different parts of their body face the central object at different
points from an orbital line perpendicular to the central object/Sun,
like a separate longitudinal motion that runs from a line from Arctic
circle down to Antarctic circle rather than the traditional view of
referencing *axial 'tilt' or inclination to the Sun.

In short,an additional piece of information is required to explain the
seasons or why natural noon cycles vary when allied with daily
rotation and the most suitable route is through acknowledging the
planet's two daylight/darkness cycle with the explanation for the
latter strictly an orbital characteristic.I do not have to remind
readers that the inability to explain the polar daylight/darkness
cycle is not that much more difficult than explaining the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation so people have now a
gauge as to how astronomically intuitive they are .

Once an astronomer sees the polar twilight sandwiched between polar
daylight *and polar darkness in terms of the passage of the polar
coordinates through the circle of illumination they will be unable to
work with 'tilt' as the cause,the role of 'tilt' goes into determining
whether a planet has a largely equatorial climate like the Earth or a
polar climate such as Uranus which has unique axial orientation.

Never in the field of human usenet has a dafter thing been written.

There is a polar daylight/darkness cycle where the polar coordinates
pass through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and this
single cycle is strictly a consequence of the orbital behavior of the
Earth as it turns slowly to the central Sun while moving around its
orbital path.You have a problem acknowledging the single polar
daylight/darkness cycle and its orbital cause puts you and all the
other hopeless cases in u.k.astronomy in the unique position,at the
same level as people who cannot acknowledge the daily daylight/
darkness cycle due to planetary rotation.

All you are doing is reminding everyone else just how intellectually
miserable they are but then again,that is never the point,the
splitting of the Earth's daylight/darkness cycles into two separate
experiences with two separate causes introduces genuine astronomers
into something they never considered before.

As for you,well .....

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:32:53 -0700 (PDT), oriel36 wrote:
On Jun 27, 9:41Â*pm, "johnbee" wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

...





Traditionally,the seasons were explained using a vague reference to
'tilt' as though the orientation of the Earth to the Sun was
responsible for temperature fluctuations at different latitudes.

The actual cause of the seasons and a suitable explanation reflecting
the planetary dynamics behind these changes is quite different and
requires the isolation of daily and orbital characteristics.This is
achieved by focusing on the planet's two daylight/darkness cycles and
the individual cause of each insofar as we experience the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation and the entirely
separate polar daylight/darkness cycle where ,after a brief twilight
period at the orbital point of the equinoxes,6 months of darkness
turns into 6 months of daylight and visa versa.

The polar coordinates,where daily rotation is absent or residual,pass
through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and these polar
coordinates act like a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth
insofar as aside from daily rotation,all locations on the planet would
experience a single daylight/darkness cycle as our planet,moving along
its orbital circumference turns through 360 degrees to the central Sun
over the course of an annual orbit.It takes a broom handle to
substitute for daily rotation and its orientation and any object to
act as Â*the central Sun to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
by walking around/orbiting the central object/Sun.The broom
handle ,again,acting for 'tilt',only provides a window into the
orbital behavior of the Earth as a person must walk backwards in
circling the object,sometimes crabbing sideways before walking
forwards in completing a circuit.As a person will observe that
different parts of their body face the central object at different
points from an orbital line perpendicular to the central object/Sun,
like a separate longitudinal motion that runs from a line from Arctic
circle down to Antarctic circle rather than the traditional view of
referencing Â*axial 'tilt' or inclination to the Sun.

In short,an additional piece of information is required to explain the
seasons or why natural noon cycles vary when allied with daily
rotation and the most suitable route is through acknowledging the
planet's two daylight/darkness cycle with the explanation for the
latter strictly an orbital characteristic.I do not have to remind
readers that the inability to explain the polar daylight/darkness
cycle is not that much more difficult than explaining the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation so people have now a
gauge as to how astronomically intuitive they are .

Once an astronomer sees the polar twilight sandwiched between polar
daylight Â*and polar darkness in terms of the passage of the polar
coordinates through the circle of illumination they will be unable to
work with 'tilt' as the cause,the role of 'tilt' goes into determining
whether a planet has a largely equatorial climate like the Earth or a
polar climate such as Uranus which has unique axial orientation.

Never in the field of human usenet has a dafter thing been written.

There is a polar daylight/darkness cycle where the polar coordinates
pass through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and this
single cycle is strictly a consequence of the orbital behavior of the
Earth as it turns slowly to the central Sun while moving around its
orbital path.You have a problem acknowledging the single polar
daylight/darkness cycle and its orbital cause puts you and all the
other hopeless cases in u.k.astronomy in the unique position,at the
same level as people who cannot acknowledge the daily daylight/
darkness cycle due to planetary rotation.

All you are doing is reminding everyone else just how intellectually
miserable they are but then again,that is never the point,the
splitting of the Earth's daylight/darkness cycles into two separate
experiences with two separate causes introduces genuine astronomers
into something they never considered before.

As for you,well .....

and we wonder why this ng has been deserted?

On Jun 28, 9:32*am, pete wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:32:53 -0700 (PDT), oriel36 wrote:
On Jun 27, 9:41*pm, "johnbee" wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

....

Traditionally,the seasons were explained using a vague reference to
'tilt' as though the orientation of the Earth to the Sun was
responsible for temperature fluctuations at different latitudes.

The actual cause of the seasons and a suitable explanation reflecting
the planetary dynamics behind these changes is quite different and
requires the isolation of daily and orbital characteristics.This is
achieved by focusing on the planet's two daylight/darkness cycles and
the individual cause of each insofar as we experience the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation and the entirely
separate polar daylight/darkness cycle where ,after a brief twilight
period at the orbital point of the equinoxes,6 months of darkness
turns into 6 months of daylight and visa versa.

The polar coordinates,where daily rotation is absent or residual,pass
through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and these polar
coordinates act like a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth
insofar as aside from daily rotation,all locations on the planet would
experience a single daylight/darkness cycle as our planet,moving along
its orbital circumference turns through 360 degrees to the central Sun
over the course of an annual orbit.It takes a broom handle to
substitute for daily rotation and its orientation and any object to
act as *the central Sun to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
by walking around/orbiting the central object/Sun.The broom
handle ,again,acting for 'tilt',only provides a window into the
orbital behavior of the Earth as a person must walk backwards in
circling the object,sometimes crabbing sideways before walking
forwards in completing a circuit.As a person will observe that
different parts of their body face the central object at different
points from an orbital line perpendicular to the central object/Sun,
like a separate longitudinal motion that runs from a line from Arctic
circle down to Antarctic circle rather than the traditional view of
referencing *axial 'tilt' or inclination to the Sun.

In short,an additional piece of information is required to explain the
seasons or why natural noon cycles vary when allied with daily
rotation and the most suitable route is through acknowledging the
planet's two daylight/darkness cycle with the explanation for the
latter strictly an orbital characteristic.I do not have to remind
readers that the inability to explain the polar daylight/darkness
cycle is not that much more difficult than explaining the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation so people have now a
gauge as to how astronomically intuitive they are .

Once an astronomer sees the polar twilight sandwiched between polar
daylight *and polar darkness in terms of the passage of the polar
coordinates through the circle of illumination they will be unable to
work with 'tilt' as the cause,the role of 'tilt' goes into determining
whether a planet has a largely equatorial climate like the Earth or a
polar climate such as Uranus which has unique axial orientation.

Never in the field of human usenet has a dafter thing been written.

There is a polar daylight/darkness cycle where the polar coordinates
pass through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and this
single cycle is strictly a consequence *of the orbital behavior of the
Earth as it turns slowly to the central Sun while moving around its
orbital path.You have a problem acknowledging the single polar
daylight/darkness cycle and its *orbital cause puts you and all the
other hopeless cases in u.k.astronomy in the unique position,at the
same level as people who cannot acknowledge the daily daylight/
darkness cycle due to planetary rotation.

All you are doing is reminding everyone else just how intellectually
miserable they are but then again,that is never the point,the
splitting of the Earth's daylight/darkness cycles into two separate
experiences with two separate causes introduces genuine astronomers
into something they never considered before.

As for you,well .....

and we wonder why this ng has been deserted?

The hostility to basic experiences is something else to witness - the
Earth is round and rotating hence the daylight/darkness cycle.

Because rotation at the polar coordinates is absent or residual,the
explanation for the single polar daylight/darkness cycle must arise
from the Earth's orbital motion so that to explain what happens at the
equinoxes where the polar coordinate pass through the circle of
illumination creating a brief polar twilight dividing 6 months of
darkness or 6 months of daylight is strictly an orbital dynamic and
characteristic.

So,have you got his straight,the polar coordinates act as a beacon for
the orbital behavior of the Earth hence you get to explain the Earth's
two daylight/darkness cycles separately and unless you are utterly
dull,and you may very well be considering the addiction to 'sidereal
time' reasoning,you are seeing a new explanation for the seasons and
the variations in the natural noon cycles.

On Jun 28, 9:32*am, pete wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:32:53 -0700 (PDT), oriel36 wrote:
On Jun 27, 9:41*pm, "johnbee" wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

....

Traditionally,the seasons were explained using a vague reference to
'tilt' as though the orientation of the Earth to the Sun was
responsible for temperature fluctuations at different latitudes.

The actual cause of the seasons and a suitable explanation reflecting
the planetary dynamics behind these changes is quite different and
requires the isolation of daily and orbital characteristics.This is
achieved by focusing on the planet's two daylight/darkness cycles and
the individual cause of each insofar as we experience the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation and the entirely
separate polar daylight/darkness cycle where ,after a brief twilight
period at the orbital point of the equinoxes,6 months of darkness
turns into 6 months of daylight and visa versa.

The polar coordinates,where daily rotation is absent or residual,pass
through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and these polar
coordinates act like a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth
insofar as aside from daily rotation,all locations on the planet would
experience a single daylight/darkness cycle as our planet,moving along
its orbital circumference turns through 360 degrees to the central Sun
over the course of an annual orbit.It takes a broom handle to
substitute for daily rotation and its orientation and any object to
act as *the central Sun to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
by walking around/orbiting the central object/Sun.The broom
handle ,again,acting for 'tilt',only provides a window into the
orbital behavior of the Earth as a person must walk backwards in
circling the object,sometimes crabbing sideways before walking
forwards in completing a circuit.As a person will observe that
different parts of their body face the central object at different
points from an orbital line perpendicular to the central object/Sun,
like a separate longitudinal motion that runs from a line from Arctic
circle down to Antarctic circle rather than the traditional view of
referencing *axial 'tilt' or inclination to the Sun.

In short,an additional piece of information is required to explain the
seasons or why natural noon cycles vary when allied with daily
rotation and the most suitable route is through acknowledging the
planet's two daylight/darkness cycle with the explanation for the
latter strictly an orbital characteristic.I do not have to remind
readers that the inability to explain the polar daylight/darkness
cycle is not that much more difficult than explaining the daily
daylight/darkness cycle due to daily rotation so people have now a
gauge as to how astronomically intuitive they are .

Once an astronomer sees the polar twilight sandwiched between polar
daylight *and polar darkness in terms of the passage of the polar
coordinates through the circle of illumination they will be unable to
work with 'tilt' as the cause,the role of 'tilt' goes into determining
whether a planet has a largely equatorial climate like the Earth or a
polar climate such as Uranus which has unique axial orientation.

Never in the field of human usenet has a dafter thing been written.

There is a polar daylight/darkness cycle where the polar coordinates
pass through the circle of illumination at the equinoxes and this
single cycle is strictly a consequence *of the orbital behavior of the
Earth as it turns slowly to the central Sun while moving around its
orbital path.You have a problem acknowledging the single polar
daylight/darkness cycle and its *orbital cause puts you and all the
other hopeless cases in u.k.astronomy in the unique position,at the
same level as people who cannot acknowledge the daily daylight/
darkness cycle due to planetary rotation.

All you are doing is reminding everyone else just how intellectually
miserable they are but then again,that is never the point,the
splitting of the Earth's daylight/darkness cycles into two separate
experiences with two separate causes introduces genuine astronomers
into something they never considered before.

As for you,well .....

and we wonder why this ng has been deserted?

What can be said of the U.K. authority on the seasons and especially
at the equinoxes ! -

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img_200/...ht-equator.jpg

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/gcse-astronomy/...lace-in-space/

I have never seen anything quite like that webpage in all my
investigations into what went wrong due to a series of events in the
late 17th century which saw astronomy turned on its head in the
attempt to use the calendar based Ra/Dec framework as a bridge between
experimental sciences and celestial observations.At least those who
deserted this forum had just enough intelligence to realize that they
inherited an idea of planetary dynamics which is somewhere between a
flat Earth concept and intellectual oblivion and typified in that
Royal Observatory website.

To put the whole thing into an accurate perspective - there is a guy
running around the usenet who thinks he sees a human skull in coal and
then jumps to a conclusion that 'man is as old as coal',the
astronomical and distinctly English version is not that much more
subtle as an assumption and as a conclusion -

"... our clocks kept so good a correspondence with the Heavens that I
doubt it not but they would prove the revolutions of the Earth to be
isochronical..." Flamsteed

So Pete,when you link daily rotation directly with apparent stellar
circumpolar rotation through 360 degrees as Flamsteed here tried to
do ,you end up trying to explain the orbital motion of the Earth off
the same celestial sphere and same equatorial coordinates making this
the most joyless astronomical era possible.

The only sign that there are intelligent people out there is actually
the desertion of u.k.sci.astronomy but there is no sign of courage
from people who are really needed to face this enormous crisis head
on.Unless people wish to spend the rest of their lives or the next 40
years following a big,dumb mistake that Flamsteed made,they must stand
apart in an open challenge to the boring and the dull by actually
discussing what is correct as opposed to dealing with nonsense that
exists only in the imagination of mathematicians.

Please, please, please do not feed this particular troll!

Martin Nicholson
Daventry, UK

On Jun 28, 7:02*pm, Martin Nicholson
wrote:
Please, please, please do not feed this particular troll!

Martin Nicholson
Daventry, UK

Look,you are all caught on the wrong side of a particularly awful
conclusion by John Flamsteed and that alone constitutes a major
problem for people representing a nation but the more immediate
problem is finding people who actually acknowledge that the Earth has
two daylight/darkness cycles with the polar cycle a consequence of the
orbital behavior of the planet as it moves around its orbital
circumference.The combination of daily rotation and orbital motion
explains the seasons and variations in the natural noon cycle and all
that is preventing these normal explanations from finding a way into a
wider circulation is the dominance of 'sidereal time' reasoning by a
bunch of dull and stupid creatures who continually disgrace
themselves.

I now understand completely just how miserable and dull people in your
position actually are through the painful writings of John Harrison,it
should be required reading for any English person here given that page
after page is devoted to the utter hostility he experienced on account
of his masterful invention -

http://books.google.ie/books?id=8roA...ge &q&f=false

What can be said when the English refuse to acknowledge,let alone
accept, the polar daylight/darkness cycle and how the polar
coordinates act as a beacon for the orbital behavior of the Earth as
the polar coordinate pass through the circle of illumination at the
equinoxes ?.Considering the polar daylight/darkness cycle is pretty
much on the same cause/effect level as the daily day/night cycle due
to daily rotation,it is quite amazing that you all consider yourselves
intelligent never mind calling yourselves astronomers.

Judging from the 'Piltdown man' episode,you lot would rather die in
ignominy than enjoy the challenge of recovering a heritage which does
allow for experimental analogies to be applied to celestial
observations and terrestrial effects.Weak individuals will withdraw or
defend the untenable 17th century concepts whereas intelligent people
will recognize an opportunity to promote what modern imaging can do in
terms of removing gross distortions,recovering what is lost and
looking for all those modifications and new approaches that await
those who appreciate that the language of astronomy is geometry allied
with physical considerations.

Please, please, please do not feed this particular troll!

He is now reduced to talking to himself and the next stage might
be silence!

Martin Nicholson
Daventry, UK

On Jun 29, 8:26*am, Martin Nicholson
wrote:
Please, please, please do not feed this particular troll!

He is now reduced to talking to himself and the next stage might
be silence!

Martin Nicholson
Daventry, UK

Are you kidding me !,I might post here once or twice a year and that
is it for what is left here is basically a middle class magnification
indulgence calling itself 'astronomy'.At least the people who created
havoc in the late 17th century weren't this dull and and are at least
interesting for all the wrong reasons.

Nobody is going to hang around a forum where the participants are
uncomfortable with the dimensions and characteristics of a round and
rotating Earth never mind more complex issues such as orbital motion
or terrestrial effects like the seasons hence the descent of
uk.sci.astronomy and it is a descent amounting to cowardice and a
severe lack of intelligence,after all,the inability to express that
the planet turns 15 degrees/1037.5 miles an hour at the equator is
remarkable in any era let alone ours.