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I've been following with interest the progress that has been made at
understanding the fate of stars in a certain mass range, probably within 7-10 Msun, which burn Carbon but never proceed farther. It is apparent that at least some of these stars (except possibly at the lowest metallicities, which no longer exist) will lose enough mass to become an ONe WD (and many WDs in that mass range are known, all 1.1 Msun must be ONe, unless they later accreted additional mass), and at high enough metallicities, essentially all. There have been several supernovae attributed to such stars but no unambiguous detections of the stars themselves. Their track before carbon burning has no qualitative difference with those of lower or of higher mass, so we must not look there. It is the later, mass-losing phase that we must consider. Theoretically, these should be distinguishable by their place in the HR diagram: they are redder than any supergiant (the tip is ~M8, compared to the reddest SGs at M5), but brighter than ordinary AGB stars - the tip of the AGB is ~30,000 Lsun or Mbol ~ -7, while a super AGB star can reach up to ~100,000 Lsun or Mbol ~ -8 (from memory, anyway - it's something like that). However, it seems these thermally pulsing stars will be obscured by dust. I'm not entirely sure why, given that lower-mass giants are not, but that seems to be from what I've picked up. Is there any hope of detection? One indirect method would be seeing a SN with a known progenitor which was enshrouded in dust (which SGs are not), but that very rarely happens. Andrew Usher |
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