Photo is a LM training mock-up?

This is a LM training mock-up, right?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...unarModule.jpg
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:30:02 -0500, OM wrote:

...Yep. Most likely the EVA sim room trainer at JSC. At least it looks
like the one I saw back in '71 just prior to A14 being launched. Don't
remember the junk rack on the side, but I do remember the lack of
Kapton and the rivets.

BTW, it is NASA photo AP11-S69-31585.
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OM wrote:
...Yep. Most likely the EVA sim room trainer at JSC. At least it looks
like the one I saw back in '71 just prior to A14 being launched. Don't
remember the junk rack on the side, but I do remember the lack of
Kapton and the rivets.


The design on the landing gear looks simpler than on the real one also.
That thing has a hell of a lot of rivets on it, doesn't it?
What exactly is in the side box, parts of the ALSEP?

Pat

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:05:43 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

The design on the landing gear looks simpler than on the real one also.
That thing has a hell of a lot of rivets on it, doesn't it?
What exactly is in the side box, parts of the ALSEP?

The TV camera, for one thing.
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Jud McCranie wrote:

The TV camera, for one thing.


If you take a look at the hole in the side, it almost looks like there's
a pair of white tennis shoes lurking in there. :-)


Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote:

OM wrote:
...Yep. Most likely the EVA sim room trainer at JSC. At least it looks
like the one I saw back in '71 just prior to A14 being launched. Don't
remember the junk rack on the side, but I do remember the lack of
Kapton and the rivets.


The design on the landing gear looks simpler than on the real one also.
That thing has a hell of a lot of rivets on it, doesn't it?
What exactly is in the side box, parts of the ALSEP?

That's the MESA pallet. The ALSEP package was in one of the rear quadrants
of the Lunar Module. As others noted, the MESA housed the tv camera as well
as other tools (scoops, hammers, etc) and equipment for the astronaut's
lunar surface exploration. Normally, it would be folded up into a cavity in
the side of the Lunar Module during flight and would "open" when a lanyard
was pulled by the first astronaut to step down the ladder at the beginning
of the moonwalk which would also trigger the tv camera to start broadcasting
images.

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/mesa.htm

On the Apollo 11 LM EVA Trainer mockup seen in the photo, the MESA was
merely resting on a fixture under it and didn't "deploy" when the astronauts
rehearsed their EVA tasks, partially because the LM mock up used for Apollo
11 traiing had a flat panel instead of the recessed compartment. From what
I understand, there weer two LM EVA mockups, one at kennedy and one at JSC.
As missions progressed, the LM EVA mockups would continually be upgraded to
reflect different equipment package requirements but also to look more
"realistic" with first silver, than gold kapton on the Descent Stage.

Apollo 11
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thu...geID=S69-31054

Apollo 12
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thu...geID=S69-55362

Aopllo 13
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thu...ID=KSC-70PC-12

Apollo 14
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thu...geID=70-H-1120

Apollo 15
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thu...geID=71-HC-723

T.B.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:10:55 -0700, "The Mighty T.B."
wrote:

On the Apollo 11 LM EVA Trainer mockup seen in the photo, the MESA was
merely resting on a fixture under it and didn't "deploy" when the astronauts
rehearsed their EVA tasks,

Why is the crumpled-up mylar there? It looks to me that they had it
covered with the mylar and test-deployed it.
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The Mighty T.B. wrote:

That's the MESA pallet. The ALSEP package was in one of the rear
quadrants of the Lunar Module. As others noted, the MESA housed the
tv camera as well as other tools (scoops, hammers, etc) and equipment
for the astronaut's lunar surface exploration. Normally, it would be
folded up into a cavity in the side of the Lunar Module during flight
and would "open" when a lanyard was pulled by the first astronaut to
step down the ladder at the beginning of the moonwalk which would also
trigger the tv camera to start broadcasting images.

I remember them pulling the lanyard, but thought all the surface
equipment was in the same bay on the descent stage.


http://www.myspacemuseum.com/mesa.htm

Thanks for the link to that page, it's got very interesting diagrams on
it regarding where everything was stowed in the LM descent stage, and
I've bookmarked it for future study. By the time they got into the J
series missions like Apollo 15, they were toting all sorts of stuff
around on the sides of the descent stage:
http://www.myspacemuseum.com/quads3b.gif
It would be fun to get the Monogram model of the LM and soup it up to
portray all the extra equipment from one of the later missions.

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:

Thanks for the link to that page, it's got very interesting diagrams
on it regarding where everything was stowed in the LM descent stage,
and I've bookmarked it for future study. By the time they got into the
J series missions like Apollo 15, they were toting all sorts of stuff
around on the sides of the descent stage:
http://www.myspacemuseum.com/quads3b.gif
It would be fun to get the Monogram model of the LM and soup it up to
portray all the extra equipment from one of the later missions.

This diagram showing how things could be hoisted into or lowered from
the LM ascent stage is interesting also:
http://www.myspacemuseum.com/lm-lecb.gif
I hadn't thought about that aspect of trying to drag the rocks up the
ladder with you.
Hopping up onto that ladder still looks challenging. You would have
thought they'd have made it telescoping and have it extend all the way
into the landing pad, or at least have a fold-down lower section the
astronaut could extend as he descended it.
The ladder on the Soviet LK was a lot more involved than ours:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/lk.htm

Pat

"Jud McCranie" wrote:


On the Apollo 11 LM EVA Trainer mockup seen in the photo, the MESA was
merely resting on a fixture under it and didn't "deploy" when the
astronauts
rehearsed their EVA tasks,

Why is the crumpled-up mylar there? It looks to me that they had it
covered with the mylar and test-deployed it.

The MESA pallet was wrapped with the gold/silver as if it had just deployed
so the astronauts could rehearse all the tasks involved with unwrapping and
removing tools, etc, but at least for these Apollo 11 excercises, it did not
actually deploy down from it's stowed in-flight position. If you look at
the bottom left of this photo, you can see the black tubular tripod support
rig that the MESA partially rested on under the mockup LM.

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thu...geID=S69-31044

T.B.