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Old June 17th 09, 05:17 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.fan.letterman,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.astro.amateur
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Default EVOLUTIONISTS, CREATIONISTS BOTH HAVE IT WRONG . . .


Both evolutionists and creationists are DEAD WRONG
about their belief - and/or disbelief -- in God.

Evolutionists (and atheists) insist there is NO God.

Creationists (the vast, vast majority, at least) insist that
there is only ONE God.

So both sides will get the shock of their lives to learn that there
are MANY Gods.

"Each is responsible for a section of the universe,"
David Fellin had revealed. "They are members of
a family of Gods who live in a physical body
on a planet of their own.

"They have the ability to travel as spirits and
can go anywhere in the universe in almost
no time at all."

Fellin is one of the three anthracite miners who
were entombed more than 300 feet below the
surface near Hazleton, Pa., in August 1963.

Louis Bova was killed in the early moments of the
cave-in but Fellin, then 54, and Henry "Hank" Throne,
28, were rescued when pulled up through a 17 1/2-inch
borehole in the 14th day of their ordeal.

Both revealed that, when all hope was gone
concerning their survival, the late Pope John XXIII,
who died in a hospital in Rome 10 weeks
before the cave-in, had appeared to both of
them at the same time and remained with them
until their miraculous rescue.

Both Fellin and Throne were interviewed separately
by the Associated Press on the day of their rescue
and told incredible stories of their experiences while
entombed. Thanatologists were rather amazed that
their stories meshed, which indicated they must have
been telling the truth.

http://www.edconrad.com/lifeafterdea...ellinquote.gif
http://www.edconrad.com/lifeafterdea...hronequote.gif

Both Fellin and Throne had shared two out-of-body
experiences, during which they conversed with each
other, after which Fellin had countless more OBEs alone.

"I was shown everything there is to see on The
Other Side," Fellin told me numerous times and had
passed two polygraph tests about his experiences,
which HE insisted he take (and bearing the expense).

Fellin revealed, during one of his OBEs, he found
himself in the company of a man who was normal in
every way except that his head and face could not
be clearly seen, being shrouded in partial darkness.

"I asked him, 'Why can't I see your face?" said
Fellin, who said he was told that "the Face of God
can be anyone" because, in spirit form, He has
the ability to enter anyone's soul at any time.

Fellin said He had spent a lot of time in God's
company, during which many of the great mysteries
of earth and the universe were explained and shown
to him.

"I called him Pop," he revealed. "I found Him to be
as wonderful as my own father whom I loved
very, very much."

It should be noted that, many years before the
Hubble Telescope, Fellin had revealed that
the size of the universe and stated that it contains "more stars and
planets than there
are grains of sand on all of the beaches of the world."

Skeptics, obviously, considered it the Daddyof All Lies
or the figment of a near-death hallucination,

However, the Hubble has just about proven that this is
indeed correct.

NO END TO THE UNIVERSE

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/...field-col1.gif

A few years after this magnificent photo was taken
of the outer reaches of space by the Hubble Telescope
in 1996, it took another one that concentrated on
a black patch of sky as depicted in the photo below.

http://www.sciencemusings.com/blog/u...UDF-777866.jpg

This view captures the mind-boggling outreaches
of the universe as if taken through an eight-inch straw.
No question, almost the same breathtaking scene would
be evident no matter where the Hubble is pointed.
The size of the universe is THAT incredible.

And to insist that there's no other intelligent life
out there among the billions upon billions of galaxies
simply boggles the mind.

To say we -- the human race on earth -- are alone
in the universe is the most ridiculous statement anyone
can ever make.

And to deny that man can indeed be multi-millions of years
older than Darwin's theory is another absurdity.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/...field-col1.gif
http://www.sciencemusings.com/blog/u...UDF-777866.jpg

===================

DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath

=====================

Ed Conrad (rear) and his albino wolf named Blue.
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/EdnBlue.JPG

Ed Conrad's e-mail address:

(Replace dot-dot-dot with rad)

(No explosives inside your attachments, PLEASE)

=================


Both evolutionists and creationists are dead wrong
about God.

Evolutionists (and atheists) insist there is NO God.

Creationists (the vast majority, at least) insist that
there is only ONE God.

So both sides will get the shock of their lives
to learn that there are MANY Gods.

"Each is responsible for a section of the universe,"
David Fellin had revealed. "They are members of
a family of Gods who live in a physical body
on a planet of their own.

"They have the ability to travel as spirits and
can go anywhere in the universe in almost
no time at all."

Fellin is one of the three anthracite miners who
were entombed more than 300 feet below the
surface near Hazleton, Pa., in August 1963.

Louis Bova was killed in the early moments of the
cave-in but Fellin, then 54, and Henry "Hank" Throne,
28, were rescued when pulled up through a 17 1/2-inch
borehole in the 14th day of their ordeal.

Both revealed that, when all hope was gone
concerning their survival, the late Pope John XXIII
-- who had died in a hospital in Rome 10 weeks
before the cave-in -- had appeared to both of
them at the same time and remained with them
until their miraculous rescue.

Both Fellin and Throne were interviewed separately
by the Associated Press on the day of their rescue
and told incredible stories of their experiences while
entombed. Thanatologists were rather amazed that
their stories meshed, which indicated they must have
been telling the truth.

http://www.edconrad.com/lifeafterdea...ellinquote.gif
http://www.edconrad.com/lifeafterdea...hronequote.gif

Both Fellin and Throne had shared two out-of-body
experiences, during which they conversed with each
other, after which Fellin had countless more OBEs alone.

"I was shown everything there is to see on The
Other Side," Fellin told me numerous times and had
passed two polygraph tests about his experiences,
which HE insisted he take (and bearing the expense).

Fellin revealed, during one of his OBEs, he found
himself in the company of a man who was normal in
every way except that his head and face could not
be clearly seen, being shrouded in partial darkness.

"I asked him, 'Why can't I see your face?" said
Fellin, who said he was told that the Face of God
can be anyone because, in spirit form, He has
the ability to enter anyone's soul at any time.

Fellin said He had spent a lot of time in God's
company, during which many of the great mysteries
of earth and the universe were explained to him.

"I called him Pop," he revealed. "I found Him to be
as wonderful as my own father whom I loved
very, very much."

It should be noted that, many years before the
Hubble Telescope, Fellin had revealed that
he was informed about the size of the universe
and stated that it contains "more stars and
planets than there are grains of sand on all of
the beaches of the world."

The Hubble has just about proven that this is
indeed correct.

NO END TO THE UNIVERSE

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/...field-col1.gif

A few years after this magnificent photo was taken
of the outer reaches of space by the Hubble Telescope
in 1996, it took another one that concentrated on
a black patch of sky as depicted in the photo below.

http://www.sciencemusings.com/blog/u...UDF-777866.jpg

This view captures the mind-boggling outreaches
of the universe as if taken through an eight-inch straw.
No question, almost the same breathtaking scene would
be evident no matter where the Hubble is pointed.
The size of the universe is THAT incredible.

And to insist that there's no other intelligent life
out there among the billions upon billions of galaxies
simply boggles the mind.

To say we -- the human race on earth -- are alone
in the universe is the most ridiculous statement anyone
can ever make.

And to deny that man can indeed be multi-millions of years
older than Darwin's theory is another absurdity.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/...field-col1.gif
http://www.sciencemusings.com/blog/u...UDF-777866.jpg

===================

DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath

=====================

Ed Conrad (rear) and his albino wolf named Blue.
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/EdnBlue.JPG

Ed Conrad's e-mail address:

(Replace dot-dot-dot with rad)

(No explosives inside your attachments, PLEASE)

================

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Old June 17th 09, 08:17 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.fan.letterman,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.astro.amateur
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Default EVOLUTIONISTS, CREATIONISTS BOTH HAVE IT WRONG . . .

In article 3e847ccc-e799-4ab0-987d-
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says...
evolutionists

Sorry, no such group.
Try again.

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Old June 17th 09, 08:37 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.fan.letterman,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.astro.amateur
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Default EVOLUTIONISTS, CREATIONISTS BOTH HAVE IT WRONG . . .

On Jun 17, 10:17*am, Ed Conrad wrote:

It should be noted that, many years before the
Hubble Telescope, Fellin had revealed that
he was informed about the size of the universe
and stated that it contains "more stars and
planets than there are grains of sand on all of
the beaches of the world."

The Hubble has just about proven that this is
indeed correct.


This was known to astronomers who used ordinary telescopes from the
surface of the Earth, such as the Palomar telescope, or the older 100-
inch telescope at Mount Wilson, long before the Hubble. So, to write
something like this, to convince people that this experience must be
authentic, because it included information that people couldn't
possibly have known back then, is dishonest of you.

Or, at least, it would be dishonest, unless you didn't know any
better.

John Savard
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Old June 17th 09, 08:42 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.fan.letterman,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.astro.amateur
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Default EVOLUTIONISTS, CREATIONISTS BOTH HAVE IT WRONG . . .

On Jun 17, 3:37*pm, Quadibloc wrote:

Or, at least, it would be dishonest, unless you didn't know any
better.

A quick read of the post pretty much bears that out.

--
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Old June 17th 09, 09:05 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.fan.letterman,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.astro.amateur
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Default EVOLUTIONISTS, CREATIONISTS BOTH HAVE IT WRONG . . .

On Jun 17, 12:17*pm, Bull**** Remover wrote:

passed two polygraph tests about his experiences,
which HE insisted he take (and bearing the expense).


Which consisted of his mother, who was named Polly, telling him if he
lied, she'd slap him into next Wednesday. The expense was that she
did slap him very hard throughout, but he felt he had passed the tests
because his rate of travel through time remained constant with
everybody else.
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