Planets and moons losing mass by the tonnes/sec

How much mass of mostly He and H2 can Eden/Earth afford to lose?

What happens when our geomagnetic force is half of what it is today?

~ BG


On Feb 15, 10:27*am, BradGuth wrote:
For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and its atmosphere
contains
* * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3
Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3

We seem to know more about the perpetual loss/sec of hydrogen and
helium for planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth.
*http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html

At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2
saturation, at any given moment there’s 25e6 kg of hydrogen getting
made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s
surface in order to create and sustain the average 0.55 ppmv. *The
question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or
volumetric/sec exit away from Earth?

Is our hydrogen escapement worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6
tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year?

Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer)
could have been representing a false positive, all be its
observationology given a nifty eye-candy yellow and reddish colorized
UV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen.
However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is
what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as
most easily accomplished from our Selene/moon or from it's L1 that we
still do not have.

Existing UV and IR imaging:
*http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html

The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or
mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of
having been protecting our atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past
2000 years this too is going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even
–120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of
hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA
contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On
the other hand, care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial
hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away?
*http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us
*http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/

Of course our perpetual naysayers and usual evidence excluding
gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed
clowns are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of
consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing
geomagnetic force and of its subsequent magnetosphere. *It’s as though
our best physics and/or objective science doesn’t hardly matter,
unless it’s strictly interpreted in order to sustain their mainstream
status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable
cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is
but worth used toilet paper.

I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having
the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of
4 decades ago, including many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at
Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a
few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having
such a nifty perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly
impossible to interpret whatever's going on.

btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free
hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was
not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of those
previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of
what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly
Earth never loses mass, whereas instead I was the first in this or any
other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each
been losing mass, and implying that the modern day human race has been
artificially assisting in this natural process.

Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all
the trouble of extracting minerals and raw elements from another
planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our
Selene/moon, or that of whomever is taking substances away from Venus.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Too bad there’s still no mainstream focus on how much mass Earth is
losing. Of course faith-based cabals and Big Energy cartels could
each care less, but never quite enough less to keep their brown-nosed
spooks and moles from screwing with and pouncing upon any methods of
others obtaining objective science. It’s as though there’s simply too
much bad news that needs to get banished or at least obfuscated to
death and/or made entirely taboo/nondisclosure rated.

The best resolution and even the dynamic range from ISRO sucks.
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/04...chandrayaan-1/
Oddly there’s still equal or better resolution images via them old
Apollo analog metric mapping images, even as poorly scanned into
digital format none the less.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/ap...atalog/metric/

However, now there’s atmospheric bacteria surviving at 41 km above
Earth. “ISRO makes intriguing "extraterrestrial" life discovery --
let's hope they're on our side!”
http://www.worldnewsforum.net/comput...discovery.html
Discovery of New Microorganisms in the Stratosphere
http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Mar16_2009.htm

By rights, this means there should be Mars microbes, and/or at least
spores.

Notice how all of the American media has been instructed/warned not to
convey anything positive or otherwise constrictive about ISRO,
obviously it’s because ISRO at less than ten cents on the dollar is
making our NASA and DARPA look entirely pathetic, if not bogus.

Instead of being continually outdone by India, Japan and even China,
the Selene/moon L1 could have been all ours as of 4 decades ago.

In addition to obtaining far superior Earth, sun and moon science, as
accomplished from Selene/moon L1, with an optical telephoto lens or
sufficient telescope could have accomplished a whole lot better job
than one meter per pixel, along with a DR of at least 32 DB, and with
multiple narrow bandpass filters to boot. In other words, we wouldn't
have needed OCO or a dozen other spendy satellite obtained science
missions, plus so much other could have been accomplished from Selene
L1.

~ BG


On Apr 4, 10:41*am, BradGuth wrote:
How much mass of mostly He and H2 can Eden/Earth afford to lose?

What happens when our geomagnetic force is half of what it is today?

*~ BG

On Feb 15, 10:27*am, BradGuth wrote:

For example: Earth surface area = 5.1e14 m2, and its atmosphere
contains
* * Helium (He) 5.24 ppmv (0.000524%), He = .1786 kg/m3
Hydrogen (H2) 0.55 ppmv (0.000055%), H2 = .0899 kg/m3

We seem to know more about the perpetual loss/sec of hydrogen and
helium for planets (including a few exoplanets) other than Earth.
*http://vega.lpl.arizona.edu/~gilda/extrass.html

At 0.55 ppmv, in order that our atmosphere sustain that average H2
saturation, at any given moment there’s 25e6 kg of hydrogen getting
made available and unavoidably migrating upwards and away from Earth’s
surface in order to create and sustain the average 0.55 ppmv. *The
question is, at what average vertical escapement velocity or
volumetric/sec exit away from Earth?

Is our hydrogen escapement worth merely 25e6 kg per day = 9.125e6
tonnes/yr, or is it as great as 25e6 kg per hour = 219e6 tonnes/year?

Like the GP-B fiasco, at best our EUVE (Extreme Ultra Violet Explorer)
could have been representing a false positive, all be its
observationology given a nifty eye-candy yellow and reddish colorized
UV image of Earth’s surrounding cloud of helium and hydrogen.
However, the solar wind caused planetary exhaust trail of H2 and He is
what needs to be more closely looked at and objectively quantified, as
most easily accomplished from our Selene/moon or from it's L1 that we
still do not have.

Existing UV and IR imaging:
*http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A3.html

The badly failing magnetosphere has been capable of restraining or
mildly sequestering some of Earth's hydrogen and helium by way of
having been protecting our atmosphere, but unfortunately for the past
2000 years this too is going away (most recently at -.05%/year or even
–120 nT/yr), is perhaps as good of reason why that lofty cloud of
hydrogen and helium isn't sticking around, and why the lethal SAA
contour has been exponentially growing and nearing the surface. *On
the other hand, care to imagine what could happen if such terrestrial
hydrogen and helium didn’t leak away?
*http://io9.com/395272/is-earths-magn...eld-failing-us
*http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.co.../geomagnetism/

Of course our perpetual naysayers and usual evidence excluding
gauntlet of our resident Usenet/newsgroup wizards and brown-nosed
clowns are not paying serious attention, or allowing any context of
consideration as to the worth or consequences of our badly failing
geomagnetic force and of its subsequent magnetosphere. *It’s as though
our best physics and/or objective science doesn’t hardly matter,
unless it’s strictly interpreted in order to sustain their mainstream
status quo. *In other words, for sustaining our mainstream as a viable
cabal of happy campers, apparently our best public funded science is
but worth used toilet paper.

I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times, about our having
the Selene L1 platform of science instruments easily established as of
4 decades ago, including many UV and IR imaging cameras looking at
Earth and equally at our Selene/moon that's losing it's sodium and a
few other elements at an alarming rate. *However, without our having
such a nifty perspective it's simply much harder if not nearly
impossible to interpret whatever's going on.

btw, *the often bogus mindset of "I always had the thoughts that free
hydrogen, and helium were lost in space and that Earth's gravity was
not strong enough to hold it" isn't what I'd gotten out of those
previously posted comments. *In fact, it's pretty much the opposite of
what we’ve typically heard from most others, insisting that supposedly
Earth never loses mass, whereas instead I was the first in this or any
other Usenet/newsgroup to insist that our moon and Earth have each
been losing mass, and implying that the modern day human race has been
artificially assisting in this natural process.

Perhaps this can also explain as to why ETs would bother going to all
the trouble of extracting minerals and raw elements from another
planet or moon, such as our dire need of extracting He3 from our
Selene/moon, or that of whomever is taking substances away from Venus.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

"BradGuth" wrote:
What happens ....

BradGuth wrote:
I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times,

hanson wrote:
Brad, Brad, Brad... You are talking to *yourself*. That's
not a good way to advance your cause. You need to
convince your clients/readers, NOT yourself.... ahahaha...

BradGuth wrote:
ETs would bother going to all the trouble... taking substances away
from ... Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

hanson wrote:
WOW.!.. that's quite possibly the source and cause for
you failing in your mission, Brad. Never the less, you are
still a good man. Carry on. Don't let me or anyone elese
cramp your style. Thanks for the laughs, Brad...ahahaha
ahahahaha... ahahahahahanson

On Apr 5, 10:11*am, "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

What happens ....

BradGuth wrote:

I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times,

hanson wrote:

Brad, Brad, Brad... You are talking to *yourself*. That's
not a good way to advance your cause. You need to
convince your clients/readers, NOT yourself.... ahahaha...

BradGuth wrote:

ETs would bother going to all the trouble... taking substances away
from ... Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

hanson wrote:

WOW.!.. that's quite possibly the source and cause for
you failing in your mission, Brad. Never the less, you are
still a good man. Carry on. Don't let me or anyone elese
cramp your style. Thanks for the laughs, Brad...ahahaha
ahahahaha... ahahahahahanson

The Zionist Nazi mindset of hanson doesn't hold much water, though
perhaps that's only because it's already chock full of the usual
mainstream status quo **** that Old Testament certified. Your every
word has proven that I'm right, as otherwise you'd be easily proving
me wrong or constructively assisting by way of your superior talent,
expertise and first hand knowledge, though oddly none of which has
ever shown its face.

btw, your bogus/stealth profile sucks and blows like every other
brown-nosed spook and mole. At least Hitler never hid his ID or kept
his intentions and global domination mindset from the public, so you
must be something worse than Hitler.

~ BG

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"BradGuth" cranked himself & wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:
What happens ....

BradGuth wrote:
I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times,

hanson wrote:
Brad, Brad, Brad... You are talking to *yourself*. That's
not a good way to advance your cause. You need to
convince your clients/readers, NOT yourself.... ahahaha...

BradGuth wrote:
ETs would bother going to all the trouble... taking substances away
from ... Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

hanson wrote:
WOW.!.. that's quite possibly the source and cause for
you failing in your mission, Brad. Never the less, you are
still a good man. Carry on. Don't let me or anyone elese
cramp your style. Thanks for the laughs, Brad...ahahaha
ahahahaha... ahahahahahanson

BradGuth wrote:
The Zionist Nazi mindset of hanson doesn't hold much water, though
perhaps that's only because it's already chock full of the usual
mainstream status quo **** that Old Testament certified. Your every
word has proven that I'm right, as otherwise you'd be easily proving
me wrong or constructively assisting by way of your superior talent,
expertise and first hand knowledge, though oddly none of which has
ever shown its face.

hanson wrote:
..... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... now you are getting somewhere,
with your "I'm right"... But you will have to prove or at least announce
where that "where" is... ahahaha... Is it in jerUSAlem or in L1?

BradGuth wrote:
tw, your bogus/stealth profile sucks and blows like every other
brown-nosed spook and mole. At least Hitler never hid his ID or kept
his intentions and global domination mindset from the public, so you
must be something worse than Hitler.

hanson wrote:
Ahhh, the "spook and mole and Hitler"... ahahaha... You would be in
the clear about all that and not "suck and blow", like you constantly do,
if you were to study --- [ http://www.jewwatch.com ] ---- ahahahaha....

ahahahaha... Brad, don't ******, strain &
crank yourself so obviously. I know you try
your hardest to be funny. And you are a
very good joke, especially in your tortured
attempts to have the last word. Will that
make you happy?... Thanks for the laughs.
ahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson.

On Apr 5, 12:00*pm, "hanson" wrote:
-------- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ----------

"BradGuth" cranked himself & wrote: "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:

What happens ....

BradGuth wrote:

I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times,

hanson wrote:

Brad, Brad, Brad... You are talking to *yourself*. That's
not a good way to advance your cause. You need to
convince your clients/readers, NOT yourself.... ahahaha...

BradGuth wrote:

ETs would bother going to all the trouble... taking substances away
from ... Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

hanson wrote:

WOW.!.. that's quite possibly the source and cause for
you failing in your mission, Brad. Never the less, you are
still a good man. Carry on. Don't let me or anyone elese
cramp your style. Thanks for the laughs, Brad...ahahaha
ahahahaha... ahahahahahanson

BradGuth wrote:

The Zionist Nazi mindset of hanson doesn't hold much water, though
perhaps that's only because it's already chock full of the usual
mainstream status quo **** that Old Testament certified. *Your every
word has proven that I'm right, as otherwise you'd be easily proving
me wrong or constructively assisting by way of your superior talent,
expertise and first hand knowledge, though oddly none of which has
ever shown its face.

hanson wrote:

.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... now you are getting somewhere,
with your "I'm right"... But you will have to prove or at least announce
where that "where" is... ahahaha... Is it in jerUSAlem or in L1?

BradGuth wrote:

tw, *your bogus/stealth profile sucks and blows like every other
brown-nosed spook and mole. *At least Hitler never hid his ID or kept
his intentions and global domination mindset from the public, so you
must be something worse than Hitler.

hanson wrote:

Ahhh, the "spook and mole and Hitler"... ahahaha... You would be in
the clear about all that and not "suck and blow", like you constantly do,
if you were to study *--- [http://www.jewwatch.com] ---- *ahahahaha.....

ahahahaha... Brad, don't ******, strain &
crank yourself so obviously. I know you try
your hardest to be funny. And you are a
very good joke, especially in your tortured
attempts to have the last word. Will that
make you happy?... Thanks for the laughs.
ahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson.

Didn't read anything you had to say, but then you (aka nobody) didn't
actually have anything to say, so what's the difference?

~ BG

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ----------
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"BradGuth" cranked himself & wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:


"BradGuth" cranked himself & wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:
What happens ....

BradGuth wrote:
I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times,

hanson wrote:
Brad, Brad, Brad... You are talking to *yourself*. That's
not a good way to advance your cause. You need to
convince your clients/readers, NOT yourself.... ahahaha...

BradGuth wrote:
ETs would bother going to all the trouble... taking substances away
from ... Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

hanson wrote:
WOW.!.. that's quite possibly the source and cause for
you failing in your mission, Brad. Never the less, you are
still a good man. Carry on. Don't let me or anyone elese
cramp your style. Thanks for the laughs, Brad...ahahaha
ahahahaha... ahahahahahanson

BradGuth wrote:
The Zionist Nazi mindset of hanson doesn't hold much water, though
perhaps that's only because it's already chock full of the usual
mainstream status quo **** that Old Testament certified. Your every
word has proven that I'm right, as otherwise you'd be easily proving
me wrong or constructively assisting by way of your superior talent,
expertise and first hand knowledge, though oddly none of which has
ever shown its face.

hanson wrote:
..... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... now you are getting somewhere,
with your "I'm right"... But you will have to prove or at least announce
where that "where" is... ahahaha... Is it in jerUSAlem or in L1?

BradGuth wrote:
tw, your bogus/stealth profile sucks and blows like every other
brown-nosed spook and mole. At least Hitler never hid his ID or kept
his intentions and global domination mindset from the public, so you
must be something worse than Hitler.

hanson wrote:
Ahhh, the "spook and mole and Hitler"... ahahaha... You would be in
the clear about all that and not "suck and blow", like you constantly do,
if you were to study --- [ http://www.jewwatch.com ] ---- ahahahaha....

ahahahaha... Brad, don't ******, strain &
crank yourself so obviously. I know you try
your hardest to be funny. And you are a
very good joke, especially in your tortured
attempts to have the last word. Will that
make you happy?... Thanks for the laughs.
ahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson.

BradGuth wrote:
Didn't read anything you had to say, but then you (aka nobody) didn't
actually have anything to say, so what's the difference?

hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... then why did you answer?
AHAHAHA... Brad, don't ******, strain &
crank yourself so obviously. I know you try
your hardest to be funny. And you are a
very good joke, especially in your tortured
attempts to have the last word. Will that
make you happy?... Thanks for the laughs.
ahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson.

On Apr 5, 11:14*pm, "hanson" wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ----------
-------- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ----------

"BradGuth" cranked himself & wrote: "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

"BradGuth" cranked himself & wrote: "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:

What happens ....

BradGuth wrote:

I recall mentioning at least a few thousand times,

hanson wrote:

Brad, Brad, Brad... You are talking to *yourself*. That's
not a good way to advance your cause. You need to
convince your clients/readers, NOT yourself.... ahahaha...

BradGuth wrote:

ETs would bother going to all the trouble... taking substances away
from ... Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

hanson wrote:

WOW.!.. that's quite possibly the source and cause for
you failing in your mission, Brad. Never the less, you are
still a good man. Carry on. Don't let me or anyone elese
cramp your style. Thanks for the laughs, Brad...ahahaha
ahahahaha... ahahahahahanson

BradGuth wrote:

The Zionist Nazi mindset of hanson doesn't hold much water, though
perhaps that's only because it's already chock full of the usual
mainstream status quo **** that Old Testament certified. *Your every
word has proven that I'm right, as otherwise you'd be easily proving
me wrong or constructively assisting by way of your superior talent,
expertise and first hand knowledge, though oddly none of which has
ever shown its face.

hanson wrote:

.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... now you are getting somewhere,
with your "I'm right"... But you will have to prove or at least announce
where that "where" is... ahahaha... Is it in jerUSAlem or in L1?

BradGuth wrote:

tw, *your bogus/stealth profile sucks and blows like every other
brown-nosed spook and mole. *At least Hitler never hid his ID or kept
his intentions and global domination mindset from the public, so you
must be something worse than Hitler.

hanson wrote:

Ahhh, the "spook and mole and Hitler"... ahahaha... You would be in
the clear about all that and not "suck and blow", like you constantly do,
if you were to study *--- [http://www.jewwatch.com] ---- *ahahahaha.....

ahahahaha... Brad, don't ******, strain &
crank yourself so obviously. I know you try
your hardest to be funny. And you are a
very good joke, especially in your tortured
attempts to have the last word. Will that
make you happy?... Thanks for the laughs.
ahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson.

BradGuth wrote:

Didn't read anything you had to say, but then you (aka nobody) didn't
actually have anything to say, so what's the difference?

hanson wrote:

ahahahaha... then why did you answer?
AHAHAHA... Brad, don't ******, strain &
crank yourself so obviously. I know you try
your hardest to be funny. And you are a
very good joke, especially in your tortured
attempts to have the last word. Will that
make you happy?... Thanks for the laughs.
ahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson.

Atill didn't read anything you had to say, but then you (aka nobody)
didn't actually have anything to say, so what's the difference?

~ BG