MARS SPECIAL INTEREST MISSIONS: NASA NOW WORKS FOR HALLIBURTON

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NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars


Kristen Nelson

PNA Editor-in-Chief


If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water deep
below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for
Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told “Meet Alaska” that NASA is
looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water — and the life it might
contain.

Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes and
the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that
might work on Mars.

The first goal, he said, would be “to drill a hole down into the permafrost,
maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to
several kilometers.”

The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems
will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter at
a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the
core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days.

Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a
2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.

Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical
geothermal drilling, he said, and that’s one of the things NASA is looking
at. The melting tool would also “tend to sterilize the hole on the way down”
which would help with the problem of contamination issues.

Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems,
Briggs said, some so advanced they aren’t willing to talk much about them.
He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry
who “really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities …

“We do appreciate,” he said, “that this is a non-trivial activity.”

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

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"We do appreciate," he said, "that this is a non-trivial activity."

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

Oh do shut up you silly little boy. Or at least post under your own name.

Actually,

As the Russians already know - oil is created when superheated and super
pressurized (sea)water is mixed with calcium carbonate (limestone) in
the presence of iron oxide as catalyst. This is proved and well known
everywhere in the world but the USA. It is the primary reason why the
huge oil reserves in the USA haven't been found (and why Russia is about
to lead the world in proved reserves).

Biological activity is not needed to create limestone (though it has
helped on Earth), or water (which Mars seemed to have had plenty of), or
iron oxide (which Mars seems to still have plenty of).

The "Spirit" images seemed to show lots of limestone like rocks, and
then *oops* - spirit unexpectedly has a "problem". "Opportunity" lands
in lava ash where no limestone like rocks present themselves - go figure.

Hematite is theorized to be synthesized by bacteria - so..

The Military Industrial Complex, Defense Department, Intelligence
Bureaus have all had various grips on NASA, using NASA to do the
research they couldn't afford, or which was too risky to explore with
corporate dollars. Public funds being funneled thru NASA to do research
for Boeing and Lockheed projects that the Defense Department can't
defend because they're too wacky is AOK though. Like the Penguin. How
much did that net L&M?

What the world needs is fewer Bush's killing folks for mining rights or
rigging laws to make huge profits in Saving & Loan institutional scams.
Essentially stealing bucks through 'legal' means from the American
Taxpayers. "Perfectly Legal" and "The Bush Dynasty" are good reads.
Look at wosu.org for the 'openline' streaming interviews of the authors
on 820am.

If the super-rich paid any taxes (they pay negative taxes) - we'd have
enough money to solve not only all the USA's problems - but all the
world's problems.

JS

supertax the superrich










none wrote:

http://www.petroleumnews.com/pnarch/010228-49.html

NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars


Kristen Nelson

PNA Editor-in-Chief


If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water deep
below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for
Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told “Meet Alaska” that NASA is
looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water — and the life it might
contain.

Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes and
the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that
might work on Mars.

The first goal, he said, would be “to drill a hole down into the permafrost,
maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to
several kilometers.”

The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems
will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter at
a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the
core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days.

Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a
2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.

Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical
geothermal drilling, he said, and that’s one of the things NASA is looking
at. The melting tool would also “tend to sterilize the hole on the way down”
which would help with the problem of contamination issues.

Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems,
Briggs said, some so advanced they aren’t willing to talk much about them.
He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry
who “really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities …

“We do appreciate,” he said, “that this is a non-trivial activity.”

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:35:24 -0500, Joe Schmoe wrote:

Actually,

As the Russians already know - oil is created when superheated and super
pressurized (sea)water is mixed with calcium carbonate (limestone) in
the presence of iron oxide as catalyst.

Really?

Where'd you get your chemistry knowledge?

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:28:07 GMT, none wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:35:24 -0500, Joe Schmoe wrote:

Actually,

As the Russians already know - oil is created when superheated and super
pressurized (sea)water is mixed with calcium carbonate (limestone) in
the presence of iron oxide as catalyst.

Really?

Where'd you get your chemistry knowledge?

The same place he got his economics knowledge if he thinks there may
be a profit in shipping oil from Mars.

d

_____________________________

http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:02:20 +0000, Don Pearce
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:28:07 GMT, none wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:35:24 -0500, Joe Schmoe wrote:

Actually,

As the Russians already know - oil is created when superheated and super
pressurized (sea)water is mixed with calcium carbonate (limestone) in
the presence of iron oxide as catalyst.

Really?

Where'd you get your chemistry knowledge?

The same place he got his economics knowledge if he thinks there may
be a profit in shipping oil from Mars.

Knowing Cheney's Halliburton penchant for ripping of the US government, I'd
wager that the government will get billed ship the oil back from Mars under
the guise of space exploration,

Is there anything that goes on that isn't Bush or Chaney's fault?
It seems that since Herr Clinton did NOTHING to assist NASA and now someone
steps up to the plate starts the process of making space exploration again,
all you dingbats can do is talk about who someone used to work for and act
like he is still there and has any control.

Are any of you still responsible for anything that happens for the business
that you used to work for?
Oh wait, that assumes that any of you has had a job....

"~~~~~" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:02:20 +0000, Don Pearce
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:28:07 GMT, none wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:35:24 -0500, Joe Schmoe wrote:

Actually,

As the Russians already know - oil is created when superheated and
super
pressurized (sea)water is mixed with calcium carbonate (limestone) in
the presence of iron oxide as catalyst.

Really?

Where'd you get your chemistry knowledge?

The same place he got his economics knowledge if he thinks there may
be a profit in shipping oil from Mars.

Knowing Cheney's Halliburton penchant for ripping of the US government,
I'd
wager that the government will get billed ship the oil back from Mars
under
the guise of space exploration,

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:27:40 GMT, none wrote:

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

Wonder who'll get the contract to build the pipeline?

--
Jock.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:45:05 +0000, Jock wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:27:40 GMT, none wrote:

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant plant
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.

Wonder who'll get the contract to build the pipeline?

Probably Halliburton or Shell. What I'd like to know is who would bear the
costs of shipping oil back to Earth -- I'd guess is that would be
incorporated in NASA's budget and the taxpayers will pay for it -- if that's
their plan.

Though since Mars apparently has oil, it could become colonized easily with
the readily available fuel source. Of course that would bring the same
problems to Mars that Earth has with hydrocarbon pollution. And given that
NASA has been so deceptive in their motivations to go to Mars, I wouldn't be
surprised if they have other plans that they've not told anyone about.

Let's face it, no where on the news did NASA announce they pan to drill for
oil as their reasoning to go to Mars. People think it's a scientific
mission, but instead it is serving some hidden agenda.

lol what makes you think Martian oil is of ANY USE TO US WHATSOEVER

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NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars


Kristen Nelson

PNA Editor-in-Chief


If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water deep
below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for
Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told "Meet Alaska" that NASA is
looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water - and the life it might
contain.

Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes and
the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that
might work on Mars.

The first goal, he said, would be "to drill a hole down into the permafrost,
maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to
several kilometers."

The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems
will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter at
a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the
core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days.

Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a
2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist.

Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical
geothermal drilling, he said, and that's one of the things NASA is looking
at. The melting tool would also "tend to sterilize the hole on the way down"
which would help with the problem of contamination issues.

Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems,
Briggs said, some so advanced they aren't willing to talk much about them.
He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry
who "really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities .

"We do appreciate," he said, "that this is a non-trivial activity."

And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA
didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet
and animal life.

NASA is lying to the public big time.