An Attractive Proposition (was - Space Elevator is itpossible?)

Painius lets go with the space elevator. How does space push explain
gravity and energy of motion are equivalent? How does it explain going
in a curve gives you the same effect as gravity(my tornado ride? Why
does my spinning gyro stay upright as long as its spinning GR gives
short answers to these questions. Fact is they all relate to each other
and GR. So do black holes. go figure,and you will see GR is our best
gravity theory and has been for over 100 years. It is not complete,and
the best I have done in my 65 years of thinking GR gravity is to add to
it. TreBert

Bert wrote,

Lets go with the space elevator. How
does space push explain gravity and
energy of motion are equivalent?

Ah, Uncle Albert's famous *description* of gravity-acceleration
equivalence. So what is the _mechanism_ whose effects are being
described?
OK, say your normal weight is 150 lbs. You're in the
elevator with no window to the outside. There's a scale on the floor to
weigh yourself on. The elevator's in outer space, being pushed at an
acceleration of 1G, so you weigh 150 lbs. on the scale. Your 'weight' is
_literally_ the resistance of space itself to the acceleration.
OK, so now your elavator is sitting motionless on Earth's
surface. You weigh 150 lbs again. Your 'weight' is _literally_ the
resistance to the force of *accelerating spaceflow* going through your
every constituent atom. *exactly* as it was in the outer-space scenario.
In both cases, excatly the same "viscous-ness" of space
to acceleration comes into play.

Yet in the absence of acceleration, space is superfluidic (or
'hyperfluidic'), the property which underlies Newton's laws of inertia
and conservation of momentum.

So at the atomic level, why does *only* an accelerating
spaceflow impart momentum, and a non-accelerating spaceflow not? If
anyone's read any of Shifman or Lindner, they explain it in detail in
their own vernacular style. But to paraphrase the basics, when an
accelerating flow goes through an atomic lattice (Painius' "windmill"),
there is a tensioning or 'stretch' force exerted upon each atom in the
direction of flow, along with a girth-wise 'pinching'. There is the
beginning of the 'spagettification' effect under the accelerational
gradient. As the leading end of each atom accererates, the trailing end
is constantly trying to "catch up". Thus momentum is imparted to every
atom in unison, and to the whole object. Of course, the most extreme
example of this effect is the full-blown spagettification of falling
into a BH, due to the severe accelerational gradient.

Addendum

Oc writ,

...when an accelerating flow goes
through an atomic lattice (Painius'
"windmill"),..

In the original "windmill" analogy, it was a Dutch windmill with the
familiar latticed blades ("sails"). The analogy pictured wind going
through each porous blade, 'catching' the force of the wind while yet
permeable to the wind.

In the atomic lattice however, there is a
tensioning or 'stretch' force exerted upon each atom in the direction
of flow, along
with a girth-wise 'pinching'. There is the
beginning of the 'spagettification' effect
under the accelerational gradient. As the
leading end of each atom accererates,
the trailing end is constantly trying to
"catch up". Thus momentum is imparted
to every atom in unison, and to the
whole object. Of course, the most
extreme example of this effect is the
full-blown spagettification of falling into a BH, due to the severe
accelerational
gradient.

This analogy has been given before, but is worth repeating.. picture the
airflow going down the throat of a carburetor. The airflow accelerates
as the throat narrows, and pressure drops with the acceleration via the
venturi effect. Now picture a cluster of molecules in the airflow. Let
this cluster represent a `single atom`. Notice how the cluster stretches
and narrows in the accelerating flow as its trailing end tries to "catch
up" with the leading end.. the incipient form of 'spagettification'
referred to above in referance to accelerating spaceflows.
Now picture mass as the 'venturi' to the hyperpressurized
spatial medium venting down to its lowest pressure state.

oc You mentioned going through atoms to many times to make your points.
Reality is gravity effects photons,and electricity(magnetizim) and time.
etc Nothing can escape gravitation or block it. Fact is blocking it
only adds force to gravity. Einstein knew about That French guy with his
push theory,and dropped it. For like I keep posting it at best is just
an exercise in thinking . That is the reason I like your posting it.
Time we found the source of gravity period,and then we would know if
push or pull cuts it. TreBert PS accelerating motion increases
inertia,and inertia and gravity are the same thing go figure