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Old December 22nd 08, 09:27 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.

Diana Napolis, M.A.
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Old December 22nd 08, 09:42 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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They'll come back once the chronic SoCal smog clears up.


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I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.

Diana Napolis, M.A.
http://diananapolis.wordpress.com



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Old December 23rd 08, 12:14 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Dec 22, 1:27*pm, wrote:
I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.

Diana Napolis, M.A.http://diananapolis.wordpress.com


Too much California flatulence (aka human methane) and otherwise loads
of sooty CO2 and NOx like almost nowhere else on Earth, plus 50% more
of the same old GW contributed h2o. At times, even the moon isn't a
forth as bright as it should be.

~ BG
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Old December 23rd 08, 09:06 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article
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wrote:

I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.


Two reasons, air pollution and light pollution. There are so many street
lights around for a hundred miles in every direction from LA that the
sky is brighter than the stars.

Light pollution is a serious problem for astronomers. They have
certainly noticed. In Silicon Valley, the James Lick Observatory on Mt.
Hamilton has convinced San Jose and other nearby cities to use
mercury-vapor street lamps because they emit light only in certain parts
of the visible spectrum. Astronomers are thus free to observe in the
"dark" parts of the spectrum.

If you want to see the grandeur of the Milky Way for yourself, then one
night take I-15 out into the desert. I-5 north is not as good because
the sky is hazier. Take any side road at least half a mile from the
freeway and any town lights. Then look up. Bring blankets and a thermos
with hot coffee.

Check your local PBS listings for Jack Horkheimer's "Star Hustler"
program. Each week he does a five-minute spiel about some special thing
happening in the night sky. It's a great introduction to amateur
astronomy; you don't even need a telescope.

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Old December 23rd 08, 11:26 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Either it's cloudy or Arnold turned them off to save money? lmfjao!

Lots of stars here in Tucson, Arizona. Light pollution is probably
the cause where you are.

Saul Levy


On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:27:27 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.

Diana Napolis, M.A.

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Old December 23rd 08, 11:28 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Quit LYING, JACKASS! California has some of the largest observatories
in the U.S. Ever hear of Palomar or Lick?

Saul Levy


On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:14:38 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
wrote:

On Dec 22, 1:27*pm, wrote:
I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.

Diana Napolis, M.A.http://diananapolis.wordpress.com


Too much California flatulence (aka human methane) and otherwise loads
of sooty CO2 and NOx like almost nowhere else on Earth, plus 50% more
of the same old GW contributed h2o. At times, even the moon isn't a
forth as bright as it should be.

~ BG

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Old December 23rd 08, 11:32 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Mercury vapor lights are a disaster for astronomy, woofie!

You mean sodium vapor.

And Jack Horkheimer didn't tell that to you. He knows better.

Saul Levy


On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:06:28 -0800, Timberwoof
wrote:

In article
,
wrote:

I wonder if anyone has noticed. In my area of Southern California
there are very few "stars," if any.
The normal constellations appear to be gone. Has anyone else noticed
this? If you have noticed,
why do you think that might be the case.


Two reasons, air pollution and light pollution. There are so many street
lights around for a hundred miles in every direction from LA that the
sky is brighter than the stars.

Light pollution is a serious problem for astronomers. They have
certainly noticed. In Silicon Valley, the James Lick Observatory on Mt.
Hamilton has convinced San Jose and other nearby cities to use
mercury-vapor street lamps because they emit light only in certain parts
of the visible spectrum. Astronomers are thus free to observe in the
"dark" parts of the spectrum.

If you want to see the grandeur of the Milky Way for yourself, then one
night take I-15 out into the desert. I-5 north is not as good because
the sky is hazier. Take any side road at least half a mile from the
freeway and any town lights. Then look up. Bring blankets and a thermos
with hot coffee.

Check your local PBS listings for Jack Horkheimer's "Star Hustler"
program. Each week he does a five-minute spiel about some special thing
happening in the night sky. It's a great introduction to amateur
astronomy; you don't even need a telescope.

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Old December 23rd 08, 06:24 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Diana Go to Griffin Observatory LA and mention me. You will see the
stars TreBert

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Old December 23rd 08, 07:18 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Dec 23, 10:24*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Diana Go to Griffin Observatory LA and mention me. You will see the
stars *TreBert


Human contributed soot that's laced with our methane, freons, CO2, NOx
and increased atmospheric h2o is affecting the views of most
everything as seen from below 10 km.

Too bad there's still nothing of any public remote observatory
situated at our Selene/moon L1. You do realize why, don't you?

Imagine what a TRACE-II along with another 10 fold optical improvement
plus another 10 fold CCD pixel density/mm2 would have accomplished.
(that's only 100 fold better off than TRACE has had to offer as is).

By more than a decade ago, a good set of easily extended mirror optics
would have had our Selene/moon nailed at 0.1 m/pixel, along with
nearly unlimited UV and IR spectrum to boot.

~ BG
 




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