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Old October 22nd 08, 11:33 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Global Warming is about giving your government more regulatorypower and your eventual enslavment.

On Oct 22, 12:06*am, wrote:

I tend to lean towards environmental stewardship, so I guess you can
put me into the loony liberal side of your bucket. I value clean air
and water and sustainable resource use. I'm a fan of all-electric cars
for commuting, ever since I worked on them at Gould Labs back when
Carter was president. I'll be one of the first to buy the GM Volt,
regardless of what it costs.

I'm for private enterprise to fix things like CO2 emissions by using
the market place to sort out the winners and losers. Oil will get more
and more expensive, so it has no long term future as an energy source.
It was the low hanging fruit for the last 100 years, but now we have
to climb higher and higher to get at it. Just like in an apple
orchard, we need to plant new trees now so that the next generations
after us will have the means to live well.

I'm excited about the future because I can see things that will be and
know people who are going to make a difference. The old power
structure is crumbling and new growth is coming to the surface. The US
will be at the forefront of this new future (and that's regardless of
who occupies the White house this next term).

Rolando


Well said!

I heard on the Danish Radio Environmental programme today that the
alternatives economy in California is doing well indeed.

I'd buy an electric car like a shot if one was available. But not some
bloated overweight 20th century car designed for high speed with 5
people and a heavy engine and gearbox. Nor some pressed steel box with
the engine taken out and a lead/acid battery pack and washing machine
motor fitted. The electric car could be made very much lighter like
the Austin 7 of the 1930s. Half the weight of the Ford T and much
smaller because the roads were better in Europe. Modern roads are no
problem for a small, light, electric car with modern suspension and
disk brakes.More of a 4 wheel motorcycle design with a lightweight
body and independent suspension built deliberately for only two adults
with all the weight saving that offers. Most car journeys carry only
the driver anyway and speed limits and are far lower than advertised
potential speeds. Particularly with city traffic congestion. Recharge
with wind/solar renewables for a CO2 neutral transport system that
still provides the shelter, the comfort and total freedom of choice
and movement of a car. Get the stalled car factories building
something cheap, electric and simple now instead of watching them
close with massive job losses so they can't build anything at all.

The same radio programme indicated that the Earth went from an ice age
to a warm climate in only one year 11k years ago. 6-12 degrees C
Global temperature change in a matter of a few short years. Multiple
Greenland ice cores suggest that the global wind patterns completely
reversed carrying warm air northwards to the huge ice cap which spread
as far south as France. See Nature and Science magazines for
corroborating evidence from multiple sources and teams from completely
different disciplines publishing by sheer coincidence in the same
month. The climate seems to have been remarkably stable until man-made
warming upset the system. Now any sudden changes change would be
superimposed on top of the damage we've already done with still
virtually no political willingness to change our habits. There may
still be hope in the recession forcing a major rethink on how we treat
our planet. Let's learn from our mistakes.
 




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