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Surprised no one's mentioned this:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...ased_sola.html Hands-down longest range conversion of electricity to microwaves, transmission to another site, and conversion back into electricity. Total distance covered horizontally equals transmission through Earth's atmosphere vertically, with losses and defocussing being far greater due to firing the beam through the densest part of the atmosphere horizontally near sea level. Pat |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
dakotatelephone... Surprised no one's mentioned this: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...ased_sola.html Hands-down longest range conversion of electricity to microwaves, transmission to another site, and conversion back into electricity. Total distance covered horizontally equals transmission through Earth's atmosphere vertically, with losses and defocussing being far greater due to firing the beam through the densest part of the atmosphere horizontally near sea level. Pat How much did the air between the two towers heat up? Also, this is untrue: "It is the only energy technology that is clean, renewable, constant and capable of providing power to virtually any location on Earth." - solar can be used over the entire planet - including Antarctica; as can wind turbines - they are also used in Antarctica. In addition, most areas can use TDP or fuel derived from TD-processing plants. |
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![]() Alan Erskine wrote: How much did the air between the two towers heat up? Report hasn't been officially published yet, so details aren't yet available. Also, this is untrue: "It is the only energy technology that is clean, renewable, constant and capable of providing power to virtually any location on Earth." - solar can be used over the entire planet - including Antarctica; as can wind turbines - they are also used in Antarctica. In addition, most areas can use TDP or fuel derived from TD-processing plants. You want to get wind power going, stick a wind turbine near the North or South Pole. :-) The US science stations at the edge of the Antarctic continent have experienced sustained wind speeds of over 100 mph due to the wind circulatory patterns caused by being near the axis of the planet's rotation. Pat |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
dakotatelephone... You want to get wind power going, stick a wind turbine near the North or South Pole. :-) The US science stations at the edge of the Antarctic continent have experienced sustained wind speeds of over 100 mph due to the wind circulatory patterns caused by being near the axis of the planet's rotation. Most Australian Antarctic bases already derive a considerable amount of electricity from wind turbines. In the near future, the bases will gain the vast majority of their electricity from that source. I perfer TDP. However, solar can be installed on most houses far more economically than using satellite power stations; and servicing them will be much easier. I imagine PV on homes and Solar Troughs on the roofs of schools, factories, shopping centres (malls) and the like. ST is already less expensive per kW than PV and it will become cheaper as time goes by. ST can also produce electricity 24/7 as the heat can be generated by a burner of some kind when there isn't enough sunlight (or at night). That makes for greater utility and economics when compared to PV. It also means that, at night, it can be used for base-load generation, while more conventional sources (gas/oil/coal power stations) are used during for peak generation. By having a burner, it also means that electricity output can be constant; that simply isn't the case with either wind or PV. |
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On Sep 10, 11:36 pm, "Alan Erskine" wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... Surprised no one's mentioned this: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...ased_sola.html Hands-down longest range conversion of electricity to microwaves, transmission to another site, and conversion back into electricity. Total distance covered horizontally equals transmission through Earth's atmosphere vertically, with losses and defocussing being far greater due to firing the beam through the densest part of the atmosphere horizontally near sea level. Pat How much did the air between the two towers heat up? Also, this is untrue: "It is the only energy technology that is clean, renewable, constant and capable of providing power to virtually any location on Earth." - solar can be used over the entire planet - including Antarctica; as can wind turbines - they are also used in Antarctica. In addition, most areas can use TDP or fuel derived from TD-processing plants. Wind energy offers the greatest clean energy footprint density, such as a 10 MW wind turbine having as little as a 314 m2 footprint (31.85 kw/m2). As Pat Flannery stipulated, in certain places we've got 100+ mph sustained winds to contend with. There is no green energy shortage, but only a shortage in deductive logic and the intellectual will in order to advance in spite of ExxonMobile and their ENRON/Cheney partners in crimes against humanity. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG |
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On Sep 11, 12:37 am, "Alan Erskine" wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... You want to get wind power going, stick a wind turbine near the North or South Pole. :-) The US science stations at the edge of the Antarctic continent have experienced sustained wind speeds of over 100 mph due to the wind circulatory patterns caused by being near the axis of the planet's rotation. Most Australian Antarctic bases already derive a considerable amount of electricity from wind turbines. In the near future, the bases will gain the vast majority of their electricity from that source. I perfer TDP. However, solar can be installed on most houses far more economically than using satellite power stations; and servicing them will be much easier. I imagine PV on homes and Solar Troughs on the roofs of schools, factories, shopping centres (malls) and the like. ST is already less expensive per kW than PV and it will become cheaper as time goes by. ST can also produce electricity 24/7 as the heat can be generated by a burner of some kind when there isn't enough sunlight (or at night). That makes for greater utility and economics when compared to PV. It also means that, at night, it can be used for base-load generation, while more conventional sources (gas/oil/coal power stations) are used during for peak generation. By having a burner, it also means that electricity output can be constant; that simply isn't the case with either wind or PV. SPS is similar to ExxonMobile/ENRON energy, and lord William Mook has been a very big supporter of ExxonMobile/ENRON plus anything his bed- wetting partner Dick Cheney can manage to think up, especially if it'll outperform the 6400% of fossil energy inflation within the past 64 years. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG |
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On Sep 11, 2:18 pm, tytiiiore 1 wrote:
I'm going to bump the tread up. Two guys immigrate to America. On their first day off the boat, they are wandering around New York City seeing the sights. As lunch time approaches, they decide they are hungry. They then come up to a street vendor selling hot dogs.One says to the other in a shocked tone, "My God. Do they eat dogs in America?""I don't know!" says the other, equally appalled."Well," says the first, "we're going to be Americans, so we must do as they do."They approach the vendor bravely, "Two hot dogs, please."The vendor hands them their food in a pair of paper sacks. The two immigrants sit on a park bench to eat their lunch.One looks inside his sack, hesitates and turns to his partner and says, "Uh, which part of the dog did you get?" 'FFXI Gil' (http://www.ffxigilvip.com),'everquestplat' (http://www.epaxx.com/),'eq2plat' (http://www.epaxx.com/),'eq2gold' (http://www.epaxx.com/),'everquestplatinum' (http://www.epaxx.com/), -- tytiiiore ? |
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