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Old October 7th 03, 12:56 AM
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PLANETS ORBIT THE SUN TO CONSERVE TOTAL ENERGY
THE FORCE OF GRAVITY IS AN ILLUSION

Gravitational effect is the result of an acceleration
of mass. Galileo demonstrated this. Newton assumed
that this was caused by a force of gravity between
all masses. Was this a correct assumption? Einstein
and many other scientists felt that there must be
more to gravitation than an attraction at a distance.
Action at a distance was considered to be impossible
in the absence of a transfer of energy at the speed
of light.

Hubble then showed that the distant Galaxies were
moving away from the earth and that the universe
was expanding in all directions. If this is true ,
What else must be true?

1. The potential energy of the rest of the universe
must be decreasing relative to the mass of the earth.

It has long been assumed that the first law of
thermodynamics, which says that the total energy of
the universe is a constant, was a fact of nature.
If this is true what then.

2. The kinetic energy of the universe must be
increasing at the same rate that the potential
energy is decreasing as the universe expands.

How is this possible? Masses must be accelerating,
because, kinetic energy change is the result of an
acceleration. But all orbital masses are
accelerating toward the center of the earth or
some other mass. Why would this occur otherwise?

3. Orbital motion could then be the result of the
expansion of the universe. The Gravitational
illusion could be the result.

Based on the first law of thermodynamics
The total mass energy of the universe is a constant.
(total kinetic (mass) energy plus total potential
energy is a constant).
m(2 pi L)^2 / t^2 + G (M-m)m / L = A constant.
m is any mass say that of the earth.

From this equation the equation
Delta m (2 pi L)^2 / t^2 = - Delta G (M-m)m/L
follows mathematically.
From this equation the equation
Delta m 4 pi^2 L /t^2 = Delta - G (M-m)m / L^2
or the modified Newton equation for gravity can
be derived,but only when L is the orbital distance.
The earth orbit is a result of an energy equilibrium,
( the absence of a change of total energy )
and not the result of a force of gravity between masses.
Force of gravity is the resulting illusion
assumed by Newton to be a force.

If a planet (say earth) moved away from the sun
its potential energy would decrease as L increased.
Its kinetic energy would decrease because it is
no longer accelerating toward the sun in orbital
motion. Total energy would have to decrease. A very
great change of total energy would have to take place.

POTENTIAL ENERGY = G(M-m)m/L
KINETIC ENERGY = m(2 pi L)^2/t^2
m(2 pi L)^2/t^2 + G(M-m)m/L = A constant = M
G= Gravitational constant; M = total energy
of the universe (or effective universe) ;
m = mass in question.
t = time ; L = radial distance.

No mechanism exists for this to occur rapidly.
So it could not happen. The magnitudes of kinetic
and potential energies of planets and moons
travelling in orbital motion are equal and any
increase or decrease of orbital distance L results
in an equal change in magnitude of both.This is
the only value of L where no change of total energy
will occur if the value of L changes. At any other
distance L, an increase of kinetic energy will be at a
different rate than potential energy desreases.
Orbital motion conserves total energy.
Force of gravity isn't needed to explain orbital
motion or any other motion at a distance.



GRAVITY MECHANICS AND
RESEARCH ON ASTRONOMICAL OCEAN TIDES
Copyright 1984 to 2002 Allen C. Goodrich

An examination of United States Coast and Geodetic
Survey Tidal Data, which was gathered by extensive
measurements over long periods of time,was compared
with astronomical data showing the phases of the
moon at corresponding times for many years. This
correlation of the two sets of data revealed a
very interesting fact, in a manner that had never
before been mentioned in the literature.
It is invariably and exactly
the lowest tide that exists directly under the
full and new moons at deep ocean ports.

This was a very interesting discovery because
current physics,based on the gravitational theory,
discussed in the following U.S.Gov. documents:
PREDICT THE OCEAN TIDES
http://co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/restles1.html
SEE PHASES OF THE MOON FROM EARTH
http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/
,would lead one to believe that,except for many
possible reasons, the highest tides tend to be
under the full and new moons. The dictionary and
encyclopedia as well as physics texts predict this
with pictures of the earth and oceans bulging on
the side facing the full moon. Of course it never
happens as the gravitational theory predicts,
and many reasons are given for the discrepancies.

CONCLUSION:
No discrepancies were found in the occurence of
exactly the lowest tide directly under the full
and new moons, at deep ocean ports.

SIGNIFICANCE:
One must admit that this is beyond
question one of the most important discoveries
of modern physics research. It indicates that a
change must be made in the theory of gravitation.
One can no longer assume that a force between
the moon and the water of the earth's oceans,
is causing the ocean tides. The force of
gravity must be an illusion caused by some other,
more basic, reason. What would this be?
If the total energy ( kinetic and potential ) of
the universe is assumed to be a constant,from this
fundamental equation, many interesting things follow.
If the rest of the universe is expanding ( potential
energy decreasing) relative to masses, the masses
must be shrinking ( increasing in kinetic energy )
(gravitation) relative to the rest of the universe.

THE FIRST LAW OF MOTION-(GOODRICH)

Copyright 1984 to 2002 ALLEN C. GOODRICH

A body (m) continues in a state of rest (equilibrium)
or motion in a straight or curved line (equilibrium)
as long as no change occurs in its total (kinetic and
potential) energy, relative to the rest of the
effective universe (M-m),

Delta m(2 pi L)^2/t^2 = - Delta K(M-m)m/L

equilibrium = no change in the total energy
relative to the rest of the effective universe (M-m).

^ = to the power of.
Orbital motion complies with this equation.
This equation is derived from the fundamental
equation of the universe which states that
the total energy of the universe is a constant.
The sum of kinetic and potential energies is a
constant.
m(2 pi L)^2/t^2 + K(M-m)m/L = A constant.

SEE
THE UNIVERSE- A GRAND UNIFIED THEORY OF MASS ENERGY
SPACE TIME FRAME MECHANICS-APPEARING IN NEWSLETTER
"SPECTRUM" OF THE BUFFALO ASTRONOMICAL ASSOCIATION
INC. NOV.1996 TO FEB.1997
See http://ourworld.cs.com/gravitymechan.../business.html
FUNDAMENTAL EQUATION OF THE UNIVERSE
http://ourworld.cs.com/gravitymechan...e/profile.html
TIDES AND GRAVITY MECHANICS
http://ourworld.cs.com/gravitymechan...ge/resume.html

A new theory of gravitation is given, which
predicted, stimulated the above research,and is
consistent with, the new findings.

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Old October 7th 03, 04:56 AM
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CC wrote:
In article , Uncle Al
wrote:


kent lavallie wrote:

If electrons have a negative charge and positrons have a postive
charge and they are mutually attracted to each other, why don't
electrons just stick to positrons much like magnets can stick
together?

SNIP not deleting this because I don't like
how you put stuffed shirts where they belong.........
just impatient.
Electrons have acceleration in two planes while spinning either
clockwise or counterclockwise facing the nucleus.
Likewise protons can spin either way while facing their electron.
Electrons and protons on the same axis of spin generate opposite
magnetic fields and repel each other magnetically while
attracting electrically. Increase the spin, more energy, the
repulsion increases, the electron is repelled further. Give
up some spin, less energy, electron drops back down..
John

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Old October 7th 03, 11:34 AM
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John Sefton wrote in message ...
CC wrote:
In article , Uncle Al
wrote:


kent lavallie wrote:

If electrons have a negative charge and positrons have a postive
charge and they are mutually attracted to each other, why don't
electrons just stick to positrons much like magnets can stick
together?

SNIP not deleting this because I don't like
how you put stuffed shirts where they belong.........
just impatient.
Electrons have acceleration in two planes while spinning either
clockwise or counterclockwise facing the nucleus.
Likewise protons can spin either way while facing their electron.
Electrons and protons on the same axis of spin generate opposite
magnetic fields and repel each other magnetically while
attracting electrically. Increase the spin, more energy, the
repulsion increases, the electron is repelled further. Give
up some spin, less energy, electron drops back down..
John


this is a very good question,the entire explaination of how nature
work can be derived from the basic principle of planet rotation.
principle of planetary rotation explain basically how planet rotate,it
is also applied to any body (matter)that will be found to rotated
round a nucleus.
The are intereactive graviton,eletromagnetic field and electrostatic
field.The combination of this lead to an electron or any matter that
will be found to rotate round a nucleus to stay in orbital path.
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Old October 7th 03, 11:36 AM
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In article , okidi79
@yahoo.co.uk says...
this is a very good question,the entire explaination of how nature
work can be derived from the basic principle of planet rotation.


Uh-oh - looks like his meds need adjusting again.

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Old October 7th 03, 01:01 PM
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"peter" wrote in message
m...

this is a very good question,the entire explaination of how nature
work can be derived from the basic principle of planet rotation.
principle of planetary rotation explain basically how planet rotate,it
is also applied to any body (matter)that will be found to rotated
round a nucleus.
The are intereactive graviton,eletromagnetic field and electrostatic
field.The combination of this lead to an electron or any matter that
will be found to rotate round a nucleus to stay in orbital path.


Your physics is out of date by over 100 years.
You can't make it work without Quantum Theory.


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Old October 7th 03, 03:19 PM
John Sefton
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Greg Neill wrote:
"peter" wrote in message
m...

this is a very good question,the entire explaination of how nature
work can be derived from the basic principle of planet rotation.
principle of planetary rotation explain basically how planet rotate,it
is also applied to any body (matter)that will be found to rotated
round a nucleus.
The are intereactive graviton,eletromagnetic field and electrostatic
field.The combination of this lead to an electron or any matter that
will be found to rotate round a nucleus to stay in orbital path.



Your physics is out of date by over 100 years.
You can't make it work without Quantum Theory.


Quantum theory has taken Physics
on a hundred-year detour that just
might end it up in the garbage dump.
People who actually think have been
protesting this for a long time.
John

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Old October 7th 03, 03:43 PM
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John Sefton wrote:

Quantum theory has taken Physics
on a hundred-year detour that just
might end it up in the garbage dump.
People who actually think have been
protesting this for a long time.
John


See: http://www.google.com/search?q=succe...ntum+mechanics
84,800 hits
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Old October 7th 03, 05:11 PM
John Sefton
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Sam Wormley wrote:
John Sefton wrote:

Quantum theory has taken Physics
on a hundred-year detour that just
might end it up in the garbage dump.
People who actually think have been
protesting this for a long time.
John



See: http://www.google.com/search?q=succe...ntum+mechanics
84,800 hits

'We must start over because you cannot derive a causal theory from a
statistical one. Einstein had an inner vision or intuition about what
was and was not a good fundamental theory. A theory that did not match
that inner vision was sadly lacking no matter how successful it became.
Quantum mechanics did not match this vision and no amount of doctoring
it to cover a wider range of effects or achieve greater accuracy could
help. Quantum field theory, which combines special relativity and
quantum mechanics, was anathema to him.'
from http://www.mtnmath.com/whatrh/node107.html one of the results of
that search
John

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Old October 7th 03, 06:46 PM
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"John Sefton" wrote in message
...


Greg Neill wrote:
"peter" wrote in message
m...

this is a very good question,the entire explaination of how nature
work can be derived from the basic principle of planet rotation.
principle of planetary rotation explain basically how planet rotate,it
is also applied to any body (matter)that will be found to rotated
round a nucleus.
The are intereactive graviton,eletromagnetic field and electrostatic
field.The combination of this lead to an electron or any matter that
will be found to rotate round a nucleus to stay in orbital path.



Your physics is out of date by over 100 years.
You can't make it work without Quantum Theory.


Quantum theory has taken Physics
on a hundred-year detour that just
might end it up in the garbage dump.
People who actually think have been
protesting this for a long time.
John


Oh yeah. Riiiight.
Accuracy of results to over 14 decimal places for
QED says you're blowing smoke. When you've got
something to contribute, write an equation, make a
prediction and amaze everyone.


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Old October 8th 03, 01:59 AM
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"DarkMatter" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:46:09 -0400, "Greg Neill"
Gave us:

Oh yeah. Riiiight.
Accuracy of results to over 14 decimal places for
QED says you're blowing smoke. When you've got
something to contribute, write an equation, make a
prediction and amaze everyone.



What part of the word SPIN do you not understand?


What part of QED do YOU not understand?


 




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