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Old February 21st 08, 01:56 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Please visit:

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewthread/3283/

to see how we stopped James Randi's MILLION DOLLAR PARANORMAL
CHALLENGE


watch carefully the consequences of Randi's *great idea*.....

For over 40 years James Randi (is this even a REAL NAME?) has had
total control over who and how the testing was conducted, yet despite
all this he has terminated the challenge.

The ONLY REASON why the challenge was stopped is because he lost and
refused to pay.

Apparently, Randi likes to break the rules when it serves him:

http://www.randi.org/joom/content/view/40/32/

"14. This prize will continue to be offered until it is awarded. Upon
the death of James Randi, the administration of the prize will pass
into other hands, and it is intended that it continue in force. "

Great force.....it's over......

where is my MILLION DOLLARS, you LITTLE NO-NAME FRAUD



******MISSION COMPLETED******
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Old February 24th 08, 04:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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I know this is OT, but it pulled me in, just enough, for me to post
this.

The first link seems mostly to have to do with Nostradamus. The second
is interesting, though, in that it is apparently a long list of rules
for an atheist challenge regarding the paranormal. I can't tell from
these what all has happened with this challenge, but it reminded me of
the following:

I used to have both friendly discussions and debates/arguments with a
coworker who had a BS degree in biochemistry. He was a theistic
evolutionist. I am a young-earth/young universe, biblical creationist.
NO: I am NOT starting THAT discussion, here! There are lots of places
to argue that stuff, and any sincere searcher-for-the truth ought to
go to www.icr.org , among other creationist sources, to counterbalance
the schools//universities/media and their evolutionist/agnostic/
humanist bias. But, NO, I REFUSE to get dragged into a creation/
evolution/intelligent-design debate, here! I am just giving background
information!

So, my theistic evolutionist friend, while acknowledging the
possibility of some form of a God, which view inherently invokes the
existence of a supernatural realm, also made statements that made me
eventually come up with the following. (I thought of this too late to
say it to him, because it was after I no longer was in contact with
him.)

It's hard in this present world to come up with something that, if you
just go to see it, it will provide you with overwhelming evidence of
the supernatural. (It's hard. that is, if you ignore the overwhelming
evidence of God's handiwork all around us and in us, everywhere, every
single day!) But I thought: you know, back in the times of ancient
Israel, the Jews had the temple at Jerusalem, with its Holy of Holies.
In my off-the-top-of-my-head remembrance of what I've learned about
this, the Holy of Holies could be entered only once per year, and only
by the High Priest. And the High Priest himself had better be
personally right with God, before he entered! In case the Priest was
not fully right with God in his heart, a rope was tied around his
ankle. If he entered without being right with God, he would be struck
dead. Then his body could be pulled out with the rope.

Now, I've heard this claim about the rope, but don't know if the
ancient Jewish history records any instances of the rope having to be
used because the Priest died.

Now, if you were an agnostic or atheist back at that place and time,
theoretically, you could go into the Holy of Holies and just see what
happens. However, the catch is, you would never get near the Holy of
Holies! Temple guards would prevent you from even entering the temple
in the first place. No pagan or atheist Greek visitor was going to
stroll in there with his Minolta because Jewish law, as I'm sure my
memory/knowledge serves me correct here, forbade foreigners from the
temple grounds. So, darn! An almost-chance to test the supernatural,
but the temple guards would stand in your way!

Of course, even if Priests sometimes died, and/or some pagan tourist
managed to get in there and died, atheists would allude to some kind
of tricks. "The temple guards killed the guy and said God did it,"
they would say, etc.

In any case, I had been wondering if there is a modern world/New
Testament equivalent of the Holy of Holies, so atheists could do their
tests. Well, there IS!

The Bible warns strongly against the taking of Communion, unworthily.
All protestant, evangelical, theologically conservative churches,
always, right before offering the Communion, warn AGAINST taking the
Communion if you are not SURE your heart is right with God. Just like
with the Holy of Holies. They repeat the biblical warnings about even
BELIEVERS who have suffered illness and even death because of taking
Communion unworthily.

At least some liberal denominations invite people to take the service
without informing them about all this, in my experience. I took it
once or twice under such circumstances. God winks at THAT ignorance,
apparently, But since I became aware, I have never taken Communion.
Believing the Truth does not make one a Christian. I do not fool
around with Communion.

So, atheists! There's your Randi-type challenge! Of course, I don't
know how God reacts to someone who doesn't even believe in Him in the
first place, performing such a test. As I said, taking the Communion
unworthily, in IGNORANCE, like I did a time or two, He apparently
overlooks. Now that you are no longer ignorant on this matter, you
have your challenge!

I suggest you DO ****NOT**** TAKE ME UP ON THIS CHALLENGE! I post this
for information purposes only, NOT to tempt someone to endanger
themselves.


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Old February 25th 08, 03:17 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Translation: You failed Randi's challenge (interpreting ancient
prophesies in a way that shows some relation to subsequent events
requires no psychic abilities, or even an above-average IQ) and he
won't pay, so you decided to claim victory anyway.
 




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