We're All Doomed - Top Three Reasons!

Gloom, doom, and despair pervade the outlook of many people on the
future.

I think there are basically three reasons for this.

One is the very genuine danger of global warming. Increasing human
numbers and advancing technology have led to pollution in many forms,
and to loss of natural wildlife habitat in many areas. But this used to
be merely local. The discoveries of changes in the ozone layer showed
that things have reached the point where humanity is affecting the
environment on a global scale.

Another is the advancing status of women. Historically, the early
civilizations of antiquity did not have much in the way of resources to
work with, compared to the developed nations of today. So, they
concerned themselves with keeping the men in line, and content, because
they were the ones whose upper-body strength made them good swordsmen.
Keeping men from fighting over women was important, keeping women
content was not. Now, the rules are changing, yet men are still most of
the cops and most of the soldiers.

And then there's world politics. World War II didn't yield what everyone
hoped for - peace forever after. Instead, freedom was cruelly snatched
away from Eastern Europe, and as Red spies obtained the secret of the
Atomic Bomb, it seemed that the forces of Big Business, so slow in
recognizing the Nazi menace, had a point after all about Russia. And
then Russian Communism collapsed...but we still weren't out of the woods
yet. China menaces our ally Taiwan, and forces down an American plane,
stealing classified technology from it. Russia obstructs American
efforts towards world peace, and harbors 900-number fraudsters in
Belarus. And, of course, most seriously, terrorists strike on American
soil - and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan gives them a chance to
escape into hiding. And we turn around and look about us - and find that
over the past fifty years, immigration has taken place, so that instead
of Islam being an exotic, foreign thing, Europe and even North America
have the potential of... internal divisions, and reasons for
nervousness.

Therefore, it becomes hard to visualize how our future in 100 years'
time could look like a 1930-era science-fiction story or a 1960-era
comic book.

A peaceful, prosperous world. Crime is so rare that treating criminals
with psychiatry instead of being harsh and vengeful is acceptable to a
populace not overburdened by crime and is not unaffordable. Of course
racial bigotry is a thing of the past, but of course America/Western
Europe/wherever is overwhelmingly white, just like it's always been.
People may live in futuristic cities with really tall buildings, but
they're not suffering from overcrowding. Whether or not there is a World
Government, there are no dictatorial regimes anywhere, although there
may be mad scientists trying to establish them (one has to give the hero
something to do in order to have a plot).

If one can't paint that kind of a future, one has to paint a different
kind of future.

One possibility is for a catastrophe to happen, whether nuclear war or
ecological collapse. One can then write a story about the people living
among the ruins.

Another is for the apocalyptic possibilities in our current problems not
to be realized. So we muddle through, with some human suffering, but
technology still progresses, even if the annoyance of power blocs
standing in contention with the heirs of Greece and Rome still persists,
and if Europe and America happen to be a bit more broadly multicultural
than they once were, and more crowded, and with more tension and crime.

And then there are stories about a future where China has become the
dominant power.

Some people have opposed setting up space colonies or colonies on Mars
because the rich and powerful could escape to them in order to avoid the
consequences of their misdeeds upon Earth. I can understand the basis
for such concern, but I feel it mistimed.

As long as there is any uncertainty about the future - as long as we're
not absolutely confident that the future will simply hold an advance
from one glittering peak of cultural and technological achievement to an
even higher one - we must be able to deal with adverse eventualities.

The vast majority of human genetic diversity... is located in Africa.
The situation of most people in sub-Saharan Africa today is, in a word,
apalling. And that has been true, although for different reasons, for
the last few centuries.

A tiny fraction of humanity, though, left Africa for less crowded areas,
and, although they eventually had enough children to make them crowded
as well, in the interim they had enough breathing space to build the
great civilizations of Europe, China, and India. And some Europeans
managed to get even more breathing space by discovering the New World,
leading to the power, wealth, and freedom of America.

Well, we've bumped into our limits here on Earth. There are no new
continents just beyond the next ocean.

With rockets, we aren't going to be able to launch the entire population
of the U.S. to Mars. Only dozens of people, or maybe even hundreds,
would be lucky enough to escape the Earth. What good is that?

Well, what good is America, since it hasn't solved the problems of
Africa?

Of course people are primarily concerned about their own personal
descendants, which is part of the reason why different ethnic groups so
often are in conflict. But the survival of Man is ultimately what
counts, and if a bleak future is possible on Earth, then Man's finest
achievements of freedom and science need to be preserved where some
people - whose descendants would eventually outnumber those who Earth's
limited resources will be supporting - can live the way people should
live.

John Savard
http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html

: Gloom, doom, and despair pervade the outlook of many people
: on the future.

Many, but most of THOSE people can offer nothing promising.

: I think there are basically three reasons for this.
: One is the very genuine danger of global warming. Increasing
: human numbers and advancing technology have led to pollution
: in many forms, and to loss of natural wildlife habitat in
: many areas. But this used to be merely local. The discoveries
: of changes in the ozone layer showed that things have reached
: the point where humanity is affecting the environment on
: a global scale.

Global warming caused by the heating itself of the sun, yes.
Increasing human numbers (in urban areas) yes, in rural areas,
not quite. Pollution in urban areas is only slightly moreso than
in rural areas, if you're talking about ground water, then it is
the Federal Government that *unconstitutionally* implements
protection of the wetlands under the "Clean Water Act", since
they have already determined (in advance?!) that it is the
"states" that must be degrading it. How ridiculous. Seems like
most or all of our public servant government would rather
unconstitutionally extort the permits, fees, surtaxes, et. al.
for their own plunder and pillaging of Corporate America,
than do some real engineering and ideas on their own.

Besides, the word "environmental" today has become another
word for "pretty" or "smooth lined". Is nature like that?
No way. Nature is relentless, unforgiving, and terrible.
What delicate balance was there in our "garden" has become
a cold, calculated, and profitable venture for the carnal
pleasure of the "addict".

: Another is the advancing status of women. Historically,
: the early civilizations of antiquity did not have much in
: the way of resources to work with, compared to the developed
: nations of today. So, they concerned themselves with keeping
: the men in line, and content, because they were the ones
: whose upper-body strength made them good swordsmen. Keeping
: men from fighting over women was important, keeping women
: content was not. Now, the rules are changing, yet men are
: still most of the cops and most of the soldiers.

"And he shall crush her head, and she shall bruise his heel"
- Does that saying mean anything to you? To me, it sounds
like women should never be on an "equal par", meaning that
yes, it is the man who makes the decisions, but it is also
"man" who has to suffer the consequences in doing so -
yet not enough men are "standing up" to the challenges of
a civilization being compromised - compromised by the
legal enforcement of environmental agendas, compromised by
taxation without representation, and compromised by expand-
ing debt and shrinking dollar. It's time to make a stand
against the madness - it's time to destroy the destroyer!

: And then there's world politics. World War II didn't yield
: what everyone hoped for - peace forever after. Instead,
: freedom was cruelly snatched away from Eastern Europe, and
: as Red spies obtained the secret of the Atomic Bomb, it seemed
: that the forces of Big Business, so slow in recognizing the
: Nazi menace, had a point after all about Russia. And then

Big Business for who? The dilapidated Russian economy, or
the transnationalists in charge of the dilapidation?
Shouldn't there be a growing incentive to speak Russian?
Are there now whole industries in Russia now that accept
english speaking scientists? Just because people in America
are driving Russian Porsche Cayennes and Laddas, does that
mean that the Russian economy is booming?

No, I think democracy is still having a hard time thriving
over there because of transnationalism that holds back the
true inventiveness of the Russian people - stifling promise
markets that might be in direct competition to any trans-
nationalist market that might come their way.

: Russian Communism collapsed...but we still weren't out of
: the woods yet. China menaces our ally Taiwan, and forces
: down an American plane, stealing classified technology from
: it. Russia obstructs American efforts towards world peace,
: and harbors 900-number fraudsters in Belarus. And, of course,
: most seriously, terrorists strike on American soil - and
: the Taliban regime in Afghanistan gives them a chance to
: escape into hiding. And we turn around and look about us
: - and find that over the past fifty years, immigration has
: taken place, so that instead of Islam being an exotic,
: foreign thing, Europe and even North America have the
: potential of... internal divisions, and reasons for
: nervousness.

No wonder, since the people of Taiwan are attempting to
exercise their independence by affirming their "basic
human rights". Since goodness and uprightness will always
prevail over darkness and deceit, the Chinese may just
end up saying one thing, but doing another. Can anyone put
a price tag on the stolen American classified technology?
Of course, we never hear about it making into Chinese
mainstream science, so is there a sort of "inside-job-
diplomacy" going on here between ever-expanding military
industrial complexes?

In Maslow's hiearchy of needs, you might contend that
a fear-based economy is indeed the beginning of a prison
planet, so your fear is then justified. Will you now
run in the opposite direction or confront the issue head
on? If you must confront this fear of totalitarianism
head-on, then we can all see that the countdown to
Armageddon might be based upon either and/or:

1) How good and upright the U.S. people are, or
2) How good and upright the U.S. government is, or
3) How good and upright the Chinese people are, or
4) How good and upright the Chinese government is, or
5) How deceitful the U.S. people are, or
6) How deceitful the U.S. government is, or
7) How deceitful the Chinese people are, or
8) How deceitful the Chinese government is

Any one or a number of combinations may work in
formulating your final decision. Remember, in many
of these choices, a co-dependence of outcomes might
"contaminate" your answer, so that if you say that
number (1) is correct, then (3) must also be
correct, since many U.S. companies are doing business
with the Chinese, and all business is good for
both countries, in helping to develop its much
needed infrastructure.

On the other hand, if the Chinese government doesn't
mind using trade sanctions against Taiwan because
of its 'rebellious' people, then this act becomes a
'fly in the ointment' of the good and upright
mainland Chinese, and contaminates the outcome.

This same reasoning can be applied to Russia,
Afghanistan, and even America's neighbors - Mexico,
Canada, and just about every nation on the face of
earth, as long as America has its borders open.

The problem that I see that has the greatest
potential for initiating conflict is the influx of
a completely different breed of immigrant than we
had, say after WWII. Yet the English language seems
to be holding its own - and that is a good thing.

However, in recognizing people as *potential* rather
than as *parasites*, most of our so-called "upper
class" Americans prefer to remain snobbish about
the type of "financial markets" that a completely
free market society was supposed to inherit - after
the War for Independence - these supposed "financial
markets" have become the institutions or temples
for the religion of *plutomania* with all of its
associated comfort clauses, and the "don't rock thy
boat" of Guth's GOOD SHIP LOLLIPOP.

: Therefore, it becomes hard to visualize how our
: future in 100 years' time could look like a 1930-era
: science-fiction story or a 1960-era comic book.

I'd prefer at least 1930's "Science Faction" elements
that went awry some time right after Taft lost his
reelection bid to Woodrow Wilson. That was the
beginning of policing metered energy instead of
researching the elemental behavior and potential of
some *real supernatural technology*. The "greens"
are simply a distraction to spin the blame machine,
while keeping the slaves' nose-to-the-grindstone of
the dumbed-down ruse.

In order to provide sustainability, we can and must
provide "expandability". This is the reason for tech-
nological progress. First, expandability, then within
that expandibility, an expanded airspace to include
the first 20 miles altitude of airspace. Given the
technology that exists today with flight controllers,
there could be continuous monitoring of all air traffic
within a 100 mile radius of metropolitan areas, with
each passenger vehicle having its own unique RF tag
for input to the flight controller. Any non-RF tagged
vehicle would be flagged and tracked via local radar,
and intercepted by the local authorities. This would
eliminate all contemporary concrete and highway infra-
structure, so that the money could be re-earmarked for
earth-to-orbit technologies. After all, isn't the
planet becoming incapable of simultaneously supporting
all of humanity with this type of modernization indef-
initely? Yes, there are other "earths" out there. Just
look at all the G2V spectral class stars in the galaxy
and you'll get a pretty good idea that there is a good
possibility that within every 70 parsec radius from our
own sun, there may be planets similar to our own. (This
study was done by the British Interplanetary Society
back around 1976). Anyone who has been keeping up with
propulsion technology can see that we now have the
capability for FTL transportation. It's the dumbing
down technologies that hinder the spirit of entrepre-
neurialism in this area. I'm not saying that automotive
engineering is solely responsible for this, but it
could be that environmentalism is an artificial ruse
to block any attempts by the manufacturers to produce
such a technology.

: A peaceful, prosperous world. Crime is so rare that
: treating criminals with psychiatry instead of being
: harsh and vengeful is acceptable to a populace not
: overburdened by crime and is not unaffordable. Of
: course racial bigotry is a thing of the past, but of
: course America/Western Europe/wherever is overwhelm-
: ingly white, just like it's always been. People may
: live in futuristic cities with really tall buildings,
: but they're not suffering from overcrowding. Whether
: or not there is a World Government, there are no dic-
: tatorial regimes anywhere, although there may be mad
: scientists trying to establish them (one has to give
: the hero something to do in order to have a plot).

It is possible that some of the tamer criminals can
be handled this way, thus they would have a better
propensity towards being the 'caste' rather than the
'master' race. On the other hand, I don't think that
some of the other criminals are going down without a
fight - pirate theology and all - unless some sense
of utility could be devised for their prolonged
estrangement.

: If one can't paint that kind of a future, one has
: to paint a different kind of future.

Yes

: One possibility is for a catastrophe to happen,
: whether nuclear war or ecological collapse. One can
: then write a story about the people living among
: the ruins.

Pure survivalism to the extreme. See John Muir, Green
Beret Handbook, Edible and Medicinal Wild Plants,
U.S. Army Survival Guide, trapping, trading, etc.

: Another is for the apocalyptic possibilities in our
: current problems not to be realized. So we muddle
: through, with some human suffering, but technology still
: progresses, even if the annoyance of power blocs
: standing in contention with the heirs of Greece and
: Rome still persists, and if Europe and America happen
: to be a bit more broadly multicultural than they once
: were, and more crowded, and with more tension and crime.

Wouldn't that depend on how "insulated" one was from the
mass hysteria syndrome that becomes perpetrated as a
result of monolithic or populus-intensive catastrophy
on some of the most targeted "upwardly mobile" control
centers of urban or metropolitan origin; many rurally
transplanted industries would escape the "media magnet"
that bureaucratic centers have a tendency to admonish,
given the mass hysteria effect that these incidences
tend to foster.

: And then there are stories about a future where China
: has become the dominant power.

Are you using the word "dominant" in the sense that
China will rule totally by fear, or that its people have
become so subjugated that they form the "caste" of a
system gone towards dynastic rule?

: Some people have opposed setting up space colonies or
: colonies on Mars because the rich and powerful could
: escape to them in order to avoid the consequences of
: their misdeeds upon Earth. I can understand the basis
: for such concern, but I feel it mistimed.

There might be more than one way off the earth. What
about a stolen, retro-engineered UFO that went from
espionage activity into semi-mass production before the
authorities were able to contain the technology?

: As long as there is any uncertainty about the future
: - as long as we're not absolutely confident that the
: future will simply hold an advance from one glittering
: peak of cultural and technological achievement to an
: even higher one - we must be able to deal with adverse
: eventualities.

Agreed, but not to the detriment of speedy delivery of
those advances on an efficient and timely basis, es-
pecially when the U.S. transnationalist, military industrial
complexified dynasty begins to suffocate what's left of
private industry, and the free willed spirit of intuitive
entrepreneuralism in a free market society. That would be
the reprobate system of robo-economics most welfare states
become trapped in.

: The vast majority of human genetic diversity... is
: located in Africa. The situation of most people in sub-
: Saharan Africa today is, in a word, apalling. And that has
: been true, although for different reasons, for the last
: few centuries.

Who controls the sub-Sahara? Can weather modification
expand the biodiversity of these people and turn the
region into a success story? The suppression of economic
virtues that would, if unchained, create massive economic
growth, would make the experimenters cringe at the ability
that these people would have to adapt.

: A tiny fraction of humanity, though, left Africa for
: less crowded areas, and, although they eventually had
: enough children to make them crowded as well, in the interim
: they had enough breathing space to build the great civ-
: ilizations of Europe, China, and India. And some Europeans
: managed to get even more breathing space by discovering
: the New World, leading to the power, wealth, and freedom
: of America.

Next is the other G2V Sun-planetary systems in the galaxy.
The only thing that is holding us back are the Dominionists.
They will all become "old world" once the "new world" is
discovered. Then what? They will go the way that all of
the idyllic civilizations have gone - antiquated, outmoded,
enslaved, neglected, and forgotten. Cheaper earth-to-orbit
is the key to extraterrestrial markets. The only thing
holding us back are the dominionists - the U.S. Government,
the IRS, and the Military Industrial Complex all have the
greatest stake in keeping dominionism alive, while enslaving
any so-called dissention of the status quo that embraces
scientific intuition into submission. But that will change
very soon. We will not accept any liars who run for office.
We will only accept people who can generate promise markets,
including cheaper, much cheaper, space access.

: Well, we've bumped into our limits here on Earth. There
: are no new continents just beyond the next ocean.
: With rockets, we aren't going to be able to launch the
: entire population of the U.S. to Mars. Only dozens of
: people, or maybe even hundreds, would be lucky enough to
: escape the Earth. What good is that?

No good unless we change to mass produced, revolutionary
technology, like the aforementioned hijacked, reverse-
engineered UFO's, or various other subterfuged technologies.

: Well, what good is America, since it hasn't solved the
: problems of Africa?

Apparently there seems to be no candidate that has made
Africa much of a poster child issue. Maybe Barack Obama,
running as Vice President to Hillary, can start a "No
Child Left Behind" policy for the genetically tested
earthly African prototypes as the first extraterrestrial
G2V transmigrated inhabitants in the galaxy. That would be
a real winner.

: Of course people are primarily concerned about their own
: personal descendants, which is part of the reason why
: different ethnic groups so often are in conflict. But the
: survival of Man is ultimately what counts, and if a bleak
: future is possible on Earth, then Man's finest achievements
: of freedom and science need to be preserved where some
: people - whose descendants would eventually outnumber those
: who Earth's limited resources will be supporting - can live
: the way people should live.

And that, sir, would give the bravest element in our world
today - the ones who have the greatest perseverance, the
greatest drive, the greatest ambition, to break the curse
of this time bomb we call earth, and exercise their very
own will over the dark forces of the earth, and offend
the spirit of condescension with rugged individualism,
while turning the technology on its head, and leaving
the dominionists in their lust for power to destroy
themselves, either by force, or by apocalypse, they
who have sought to control the lives of free men will
become enslaved by their own imaginations.

John Savard
http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html

American

se vero y ben trovato; res ipsa loquiter

(It is true and well conceived; it speaks for itself)

I'd have to agree with the bulk of your doom and gloom rant.

I look at Earth's badly failing environment in a somewhat different
way, that often excludes the importance of humanity, in that for the
longest time mother Earth and of its vast populations of complex life
did just fine and dandy without us pillaging and raping everything in
sight, including that trick of our having put our own kind on a stick
for such a silly faith-based PR stunt.

I believe that Earth became livable for us humans because of our
mostly freshwater global environment having obtained that somewhat
salty and icy protomoon, and otherwise extensively of what those nifty
little diatoms accomplished. Remove or exclude them little diatoms
and we all get to die.

Of course, removing our orbiting mascon of such a substantial tidal
influence, as having been the most likely encounter of what created
and having sustained Earth's seasonal tilt, and for the most part
Earth loses 2/3s of its tides and gets itself summarily frozen to
death.

How's that for sharing the Guth doom and gloom rant of the day?
- Brad Guth


John Savard wrote:
Gloom, doom, and despair pervade the outlook of many people on the
future.

I think there are basically three reasons for this.

One is the very genuine danger of global warming. Increasing human
numbers and advancing technology have led to pollution in many forms,
and to loss of natural wildlife habitat in many areas. But this used to
be merely local. The discoveries of changes in the ozone layer showed
that things have reached the point where humanity is affecting the
environment on a global scale.

Another is the advancing status of women. Historically, the early
civilizations of antiquity did not have much in the way of resources to
work with, compared to the developed nations of today. So, they
concerned themselves with keeping the men in line, and content, because
they were the ones whose upper-body strength made them good swordsmen.
Keeping men from fighting over women was important, keeping women
content was not. Now, the rules are changing, yet men are still most of
the cops and most of the soldiers.

And then there's world politics. World War II didn't yield what everyone
hoped for - peace forever after. Instead, freedom was cruelly snatched
away from Eastern Europe, and as Red spies obtained the secret of the
Atomic Bomb, it seemed that the forces of Big Business, so slow in
recognizing the Nazi menace, had a point after all about Russia. And
then Russian Communism collapsed...but we still weren't out of the woods
yet. China menaces our ally Taiwan, and forces down an American plane,
stealing classified technology from it. Russia obstructs American
efforts towards world peace, and harbors 900-number fraudsters in
Belarus. And, of course, most seriously, terrorists strike on American
soil - and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan gives them a chance to
escape into hiding. And we turn around and look about us - and find that
over the past fifty years, immigration has taken place, so that instead
of Islam being an exotic, foreign thing, Europe and even North America
have the potential of... internal divisions, and reasons for
nervousness.

Therefore, it becomes hard to visualize how our future in 100 years'
time could look like a 1930-era science-fiction story or a 1960-era
comic book.

A peaceful, prosperous world. Crime is so rare that treating criminals
with psychiatry instead of being harsh and vengeful is acceptable to a
populace not overburdened by crime and is not unaffordable. Of course
racial bigotry is a thing of the past, but of course America/Western
Europe/wherever is overwhelmingly white, just like it's always been.
People may live in futuristic cities with really tall buildings, but
they're not suffering from overcrowding. Whether or not there is a World
Government, there are no dictatorial regimes anywhere, although there
may be mad scientists trying to establish them (one has to give the hero
something to do in order to have a plot).

If one can't paint that kind of a future, one has to paint a different
kind of future.

One possibility is for a catastrophe to happen, whether nuclear war or
ecological collapse. One can then write a story about the people living
among the ruins.

Another is for the apocalyptic possibilities in our current problems not
to be realized. So we muddle through, with some human suffering, but
technology still progresses, even if the annoyance of power blocs
standing in contention with the heirs of Greece and Rome still persists,
and if Europe and America happen to be a bit more broadly multicultural
than they once were, and more crowded, and with more tension and crime.

And then there are stories about a future where China has become the
dominant power.

Some people have opposed setting up space colonies or colonies on Mars
because the rich and powerful could escape to them in order to avoid the
consequences of their misdeeds upon Earth. I can understand the basis
for such concern, but I feel it mistimed.

As long as there is any uncertainty about the future - as long as we're
not absolutely confident that the future will simply hold an advance
from one glittering peak of cultural and technological achievement to an
even higher one - we must be able to deal with adverse eventualities.

The vast majority of human genetic diversity... is located in Africa.
The situation of most people in sub-Saharan Africa today is, in a word,
apalling. And that has been true, although for different reasons, for
the last few centuries.

A tiny fraction of humanity, though, left Africa for less crowded areas,
and, although they eventually had enough children to make them crowded
as well, in the interim they had enough breathing space to build the
great civilizations of Europe, China, and India. And some Europeans
managed to get even more breathing space by discovering the New World,
leading to the power, wealth, and freedom of America.

Well, we've bumped into our limits here on Earth. There are no new
continents just beyond the next ocean.

With rockets, we aren't going to be able to launch the entire population
of the U.S. to Mars. Only dozens of people, or maybe even hundreds,
would be lucky enough to escape the Earth. What good is that?

Well, what good is America, since it hasn't solved the problems of
Africa?

Of course people are primarily concerned about their own personal
descendants, which is part of the reason why different ethnic groups so
often are in conflict. But the survival of Man is ultimately what
counts, and if a bleak future is possible on Earth, then Man's finest
achievements of freedom and science need to be preserved where some
people - whose descendants would eventually outnumber those who Earth's
limited resources will be supporting - can live the way people should
live.

John Savard
http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html