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Old October 31st 07, 12:41 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.geo.geology
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Default Space Command's Plan to explore Lunar Poles, Cis-Lunar Space and even Neo's


Gosh, here I am ranting about the prospect of using the
Vision as a part of missile defense command and
control system (not weapons system). And here
I read a pdf from ...

BRIG GEN S. PETE WORDEN
Director for Development and Transformation
Air Force Space Command, Space and Missile
Systems Center


.....that sounds like something out of Buck Rogers.


25 YEAR SPACE PROGRAM.

DEVELOP AFFORDABLE "RESPONSIVE"
LAUNCHERS
2010-2015.

USE MICROSATELLITES TO SURVEY CISLUNAR
SPACE, SUITABLE NEOS AND LUNAR POLES
2008-2018.

EVOLVE FULLY REUSABLE HEAVY LIFT AND
PARTIALLY REUSABLE VERY HEAVY LIFT
VEHICLES
2015-2020.

CONSTRUCT VERY LARGE SPACE TELESCOPE
(PLANET FINDER) 30 METERS IN DIAMETER
AT L-2 -2020-2025.DEVELOP LUNAR/NEO RESOURCE
USAGE
2020-2025.

MOVE NEO INTO EARTH ORBIT 2025-2030

.......................

Move a near earth object into earth orbit????
Why would Space Command want to do that?

What is this guy on drugs or something.
And you guys call me alarmist?
Sheez this pdf is just ...I...mean...I'm speechless.



Scroll down to page 30 or so.
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/libra...rden_Simon.pdf





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Old October 31st 07, 01:30 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.geo.geology
Rand Simberg[_1_]
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Default Space Command's Plan to explore Lunar Poles, Cis-Lunar Space and even Neo's

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:41:42 -0500, in a place far, far away,
"Jonathan" made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

Gosh, here I am ranting about the prospect of using the
Vision as a part of missile defense command and
control system (not weapons system). And here
I read a pdf from ...

BRIG GEN S. PETE WORDEN
Director for Development and Transformation
Air Force Space Command, Space and Missile
Systems Center


He no longer holds that position, and hasn't for several years.
Fantasize on.
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Old October 31st 07, 06:01 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.geo.geology
BradGuth
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Default Space Command's Plan to explore Lunar Poles, Cis-Lunar Space and even Neo's

On Oct 30, 4:41 pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
Gosh, here I am ranting about the prospect of using the
Vision as a part of missile defense command and
control system (not weapons system). And here
I read a pdf from ...

BRIG GEN S. PETE WORDEN
Director for Development and Transformation
Air Force Space Command, Space and Missile
Systems Center

....that sounds like something out of Buck Rogers.

25 YEAR SPACE PROGRAM.

DEVELOP AFFORDABLE "RESPONSIVE"
LAUNCHERS
2010-2015.

USE MICROSATELLITES TO SURVEY CISLUNAR
SPACE, SUITABLE NEOS AND LUNAR POLES
2008-2018.

EVOLVE FULLY REUSABLE HEAVY LIFT AND
PARTIALLY REUSABLE VERY HEAVY LIFT
VEHICLES
2015-2020.

CONSTRUCT VERY LARGE SPACE TELESCOPE
(PLANET FINDER) 30 METERS IN DIAMETER
AT L-2 -2020-2025.DEVELOP LUNAR/NEO RESOURCE
USAGE
2020-2025.

MOVE NEO INTO EARTH ORBIT 2025-2030

......................

Move a near earth object into earth orbit????
Why would Space Command want to do that?


I agree. Instead they should focus upon redirecting or diverting such
pesky and potentially lethal NEOs into impacting our physically dark
moon.


What is this guy on drugs or something.
And you guys call me alarmist?
Sheez this pdf is just ...I...mean...I'm speechless.

Scroll down to page 30 or so.http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/libra...nov03/Worden_S...


I once again have to agree, that it's getting much worse off than just
NASA weird and otherwise downright hocus-pocus spendy for
accomplishing next to nothing much of any physics or science value.

According to our XNASA "Enterprise Mission" wizards and author of
"Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA", our moon needs to be re-
explored in much greater detail, of which I'd have to full agree with
that analogy, but not for the same reasons as having been suggested by
NASA's very own weird kind of disinformation/infowar spewing
rusemasters that are indirectly supporting everything NASA/Apollo, as
though it's the one and only whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
help them via whatever faith-based God is putting our hard earned loot
into their offshore bank accounts.

According to our "Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet(Tom)" as
having reported upon yet another Enterprise Mission infomercial event
as having a head count of 124. At that rather pathetic turnout, I
supposed that kind of infomercial press exposure event as held within
the little "Zenger Room" cost them at the very least a good $100/head
(a whole lot more spendy if you're not a NPC member). Was there any
door charge, implied donation or required book purchase for attending?

Wow! 124 is certainly a whole lot better head count than I'd thought
would attend. As a small NPC classroom of such heads, perchance were
any of those attending heads from The Washington Post or PBS. Wasn't
Dan Rather or any other investigative reporter there? How about a
brief visit by Walter Cronkite, or was there even so much as one
official NASA astronaut there to behold?

Thus far, there's still no public press coverage, or much less of
anything from LeapFrog about squat of whatever's supposedly so moon
like for real about those xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated terrain
photographs, of our guano island's pretend it's a moon environment
setting.

Even of my having reviewed far better close-ups of that unusually
bright albedo worthy rock, and via our fancy but optically unfiltered
and apparently rad-hard Kodak moment shots of that supposed ET
modified rock are not telling us squat as to what and/or how any of
that physically dark, thick and sticky moon dust ever managed to get
out of those deep cracks, and of that other extremely spooky and
supposed artificial tower item is just looking as though too gosh darn
hocus pocus, as though it was something weird in their guano island
background or on stage that wasn't supposed to be there, as otherwise
it's made of or cloaked by whatever's nearly as sooty black as or at
least darker than coal.

There's actually some extremely weird stuff as robotic photographed
from orbit that's entirely believable as being somewhat artificial
looking, and otherwise just plain old naturally weird about our
physically dark and nasty moon that's oddly somewhat salty, as well as
highly electrostatic charged and always saturated in gamma, plus
double IR roasting to death by day of having those pesky X-rays to
deal with.

In all possible fairness, there may have been those lunar transported
ETs, as of once upon a time situated onboard our interstellar
migrating icy proto-moon, wheeas that's technically doable for the
likes of accommodating our frail DNA having to survive such an exposed
trek. A thick layer of ice not only makes a perfectly terrific
thermal insulator, but it's also going to function darn good on behalf
of cosmic radiation shielding (a whole lot better off than any
combined terrestrial atmosphere and magnetosphere worth of Van Allen
bets can accommodate, as well as such ice [especially if it's made
extra cold and thus of hard salty ice] being rather nicely impact
resistant).

This following press event should have been well enough over by now,
with at the very least some viable info along with one or more of
those supposed taboo (aka never seen before) NASA/Apollo images that
we've never before had access to, as for those images getting usenet
posted for the first time by at least one soul. I wonder what's
taking so long? (or didn't anyone of investigative importance bother
to show up?)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a4f5446390fdcc

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...7f86034fb4b63a

I have no personal doubts as to the possibility of there having been
"ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon", as discovered
by our orbiting Apollo robotics (though not as directly recorded via
Apollo astronauts) and perhaps as such having been legally classified
under the 1958 Space Act by NASA for the past 40+ years.

As to the demonstration and analyzing one of those supposed secret
technologies retrieved by the Apollo crews, relating to the artificial
control of gravity, is entirely proof positive of the ongoing ruse/
sting nature of this forever hocus-pocus fiasco, of the silly hype
worth of infowar/infomercial spewing that's at the very disinformation
root of most all things NASA and pretend-atheists at the same time.

There is simply no possible way that Ken or Richard are actually rogue
agents working outside of MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA orchestration or
moderation, and still alive to be sharing such supposed secrets (far
less crimes would get such folks put into our secret prisons and if
need be waterboarded to death without so much as any speck of due
process). I would believe that it does our NASA much good having such
a insider ruse/sting ongoing, because it only makes everything else
NASA look all that more believable. However, if this press event
brings further attention to our physically dark and somewhat salty old
moon that's always saturated in gamma, plus especially X-ray and
double IR nasty by day, then so be it.

BTW, you folks do recall what happened to that certain other original
NASA safety engineer whistleblower and of his entire family, don't
you? (wouldn't that happen again if there was any such disclosed
truths about our moon to behold, especially if such information didn't
fully cover our NASA/Apollo butts)

Not only did those pesky MIB manage to arrange that rather unfortunate
encounter with a locomotive, but also having scrubbed out his entire
safety report, as well as that of his field office and most of
everything else got scrubbed off the face of Earth, almost like that
safety engineer had never existed.

Perhaps something similar will happen to Dr. Ken Johnston. (does Ken
Johnston have a reliable posse that's packing heat?) Or, is this
simply another pretend sort of whistleblower ruse kind of thing that
our government and NASA are really good at pulling off. (at least if I
were NASA, it's exactly what kind of stealth insider damage-control
that I'd be doing and/or allowing right about now)

It seems as though anything that further supports the notions of our
NASA/Apollo astronauts actually walking moonsuit butt naked on that
moon of ours is good enough, even if it comes by way of other
rusemasters trying to pull off whatever can suggest that we'd walked
on that dusty old moon with our unfiltered optics and Kodak film that
was somehow rad-hard and otherwise immune to such raw UV or even UV
secondary/recoil photons, and otherwise simply couldn't notice or much
less record Venus.

It'll be downright interesting as to a head count and ID of those
attending this Enterprise Mission news event. I wonder what sort of
obscure back page of which newspaper or publication it'll get reported
upon? (perhaps Play Boy or LeapFrog will run something in pop-up
format).
- Brad Guth -

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Old October 31st 07, 11:58 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.geo.geology
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Default Space Command's Plan to explore Lunar Poles, Cis-Lunar Space and even Neo's


"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:41:42 -0500, in a place far, far away,
"Jonathan" made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

Gosh, here I am ranting about the prospect of using the
Vision as a part of missile defense command and
control system (not weapons system). And here
I read a pdf from ...

BRIG GEN S. PETE WORDEN
Director for Development and Transformation
Air Force Space Command, Space and Missile
Systems Center


He no longer holds that position, and hasn't for several years.
Fantasize on.



I realize these things are more like wish-lists than plans.
But it gives some insight into their thinking and direction.
And to say he's gone so it doesn't matter is wrong.
The rhetoric has remained just as aggressive.




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Old November 3rd 07, 04:06 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.geo.geology
Michael Gallagher
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Default Space Command's Plan to explore Lunar Poles, Cis-Lunar Space and even Neo's

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:30:53 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

He no longer holds that position, and hasn't for several years.
Fantasize on.


I keep quipping that we should hand space coloziation over to the
Marine Corps, because their job is to move a lot of people and
equipment long distances FAST. We ever want bases and stations with
more than a handful of people on them, why not give the jove to people
who are, by profession, people movers?



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