GUTH Venus is way too hot for even Bad Astronomy

"John Baker" wrote in message



"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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snip typica Guth lunacy

Yes, Brad, Venus is hot, all right. Far too hot for any kind of life to
exist.

For humans, especially stupid ones, yes indeed, Venus is way too hot.

But no it's actually not too hot for lizard folk at night, as their
Venus season of nighttime is quite long and, every btu of solar influx
must exit the night side of Venus, or else there simply would not be
Venus (physics 101; energy in = energy out).

http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/road-01.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-basics.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/Reservoirs.html
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/image-proof.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-bridge.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/energy-options.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/heat-is-relative.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-nocturnals.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-evolution.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-numbers.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lizard-folk.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/radio-maybe.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/airship-02.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-air.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/positive.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm
and there's certainly lots more where these testy pages came from (their
dyslexic content is yet another bonus).

Regards, Brad Guth IEIS~GASA / discovery of other LIFE on Venus
Alternate URL: http://guthvenus.tripod.com phone: 1-253-8576061


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But no it's actually not too hot for lizard folk at night BRBR


Yeah, breathing CO2 the rest of the Venusian atmosphere is so much fun..... if
you're a plant, maybe. If you're any form of animal with more than one cell,
you're dead before you can say "Roswell."




Matt Bille
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OPINIONS IN ALL POSTS ARE SOLELY THOSE OF THE AUTHOR

MattWriter wrote:

Yeah, breathing CO2 the rest of the Venusian atmosphere is so much fun..... if
you're a plant, maybe. If you're any form of animal with more than one cell,
you're dead before you can say "Roswell."





Oh...so you are saying that The Firewomen are a bunch of vegetables?
This is how interplanetary wars get started, buddy!

Pat

As usual Pat Flannery, you're still being and/or acting like another
official NASA/DHS Borg, you've got absolutely nothing of substance to
contribute pertaining to the topic. Perhaps that's because you are the
problem, not I, as I'm just the messenger, or perhaps the village
idiot that's no longer snookered.

On another honest effort of a worthy topic/contribution that's doable,
in spite of all the flak (your flak): Interplanetary Communications:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-illumination.htm

Perhaps getting a little further off topic, but related to what's
honestly doable with respect to our moon; More often than not, I've
taken on more than my fair share of the status quo, of their warm and
fuzzy flak, only to discover those long standing ulterior motives
getting involved. Much like all the disinformation as well as flak
that I've recently taken over the lunar space elevator (LSE-CM/ISS),
as the sane alternative to the ESE or bust fiasco:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm

Solar system imaging via lunar SAR component placement, as a robotic
receiving module of the SAR aperture portion:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/moon-sar.htm

I have a few other contributions to science and technology, as well as
humanity, though all that gibberish might take up too much of your
invaluable time, only to further confuse your dog-wagging cloak and
dagger cult mentality, though perhaps it's all my fault, due mostly to
the total lack of infomercial polish that NASA and their collective of
wizards utilize all the time.

Regards, Brad Guth IEIS~GASA / discovery of other LIFE on Venus
Alternate URL: http://guthvenus.tripod.com phone: 1-253-8576061

Brad Guth wrote:

As usual Pat Flannery, you're still being and/or acting like another
official NASA/DHS Borg, you've got absolutely nothing of substance to
contribute pertaining to the topic. Perhaps that's because you are the
problem, not I, as I'm just the messenger, or perhaps the village
idiot that's no longer snookered.


I am fat; you are crazy; but I can always go on a diet.

Pat

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Brad Guth wrote:

As usual Pat Flannery, you're still being and/or acting like another
official NASA/DHS Borg, you've got absolutely nothing of substance to
contribute pertaining to the topic. Perhaps that's because you are the
problem, not I, as I'm just the messenger, or perhaps the village
idiot that's no longer snookered.


I am fat; you are crazy; but I can always go on a diet.

Pat

Or, as stated in an old W.C. Fields movie:

WOMAN: Sir, you are drunk!

FIELDS: Madame, I shall be sober in the morning. You will look like
THAT for the rest of your life!

--

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for | Doug Van Dorn
thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. |

(MattWriter) wrote in message ...
But no it's actually not too hot for lizard folk at night BRBR


Yeah, breathing CO2 the rest of the Venusian atmosphere is so much fun..... if
you're a plant, maybe. If you're any form of animal with more than one cell,
you're dead before you can say "Roswell."




Matt Bille
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OPINIONS IN ALL POSTS ARE SOLELY THOSE OF THE AUTHOR

I realise there's way too much to say about all of this CO2 breathing
stuff, however, I'll merely suggest that others like yourself help
with the research on Earthly forms of life that have become highly
tolerant of CO2, thereby in need of extremely little O2. Remembering
those laws of physics, that along with increased pressure, even the
likes of we humans require far less O2. Even though a process of
CO2--CO/O2 is doable, that doesn't represent that we'll survive
nicely on the remains of CO, although the CO element can be easily
collected and reutilized a fuel.

This following page needs to be updated, preferably with whatever
you've got to offer: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/venus-air.htm

I even have a few other pages that'll give further insights into Venus
lizard folk, of their surviving in spite of our inbread arrogance and
utter stupidity.

Regards, Brad Guth IEIS~GASA / discovery of other LIFE on Venus
Alternate URL: http://guthvenus.tripod.com phone: 1-253-8576061

In article ,
(Brad Guth) wrote:

(snipped typically delusional rambling)

Spend more time taking your meds and less time changing your email
addresses, Brad.

--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
Reformed Aerospace Engineer
"Heisenberg might have been here."
~ Anonymous

This may be getting some folks a wee bit off topic from Venus life,
lizard folk and all, but according to some recent feedback, I've
learned a thing or two about our nasty moon, as a place that I believe
we need to establish a lunar space elevator in order to be getting
ourselves off to visiting the wizard of Oz at Venus L2, as well as for
reaching out to those irradiated to death snowman/snowwoman on Mars:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm

Here's a little typical feedback of supposed facts from: Jay Windley
)
"High-energy cosmic rays do not come from the sun. They come from
outside the solar system, and our sun is the primary defense against
them. The particles released by the sun itself are of considerably
lower energy and thus their secondary effects in the ambient are
minimal."

http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-moon-radiation.htm

Fortunately, I never specified upon any specific "high-energy cosmic
rays", just pointing out that our sun is certainly capable of tossing
out its fair share of far worse things than visible photons plus IR
worth of BTUs and of those nasty UVs. Obviously a supernova is worth a
thousand fold in terms of being nasty, thereby from the far off
generated galactic influx must offer a measurable degree of such, and
of the secondary radiation given off by all that infamous clumping
lunar dirt should become a fairly darn good indicator.

The assertions or premise offered by the likes of Jay Windley, that of
not only lacking an atmosphere but also without a Van Allen buffer
zone is not such a bad thing if you're out and about on the lunar
surface, seems somewhat risky if not downright lethal. I might have
come into that understanding if we're referring to an earthshine
illuminated lunar surface, but not so far if that's of any fully solar
illuminated environment while wearing a moon suit because, we're not
talking about avoiding a 270 nm UV sun burn.

Sorry about all my reverse engineering logic, or lack thereof. I was
simply trying to establish upon the amount of solar radiation that
becomes hard X-Ray class.

"High-energy cosmic rays do not come from the sun"

Do we suppose that happens to include the likes of the last couple of
weeks of solar flak?

Seems there should be some specific knowledge (excluding Apollo) of
what's what pertaining to the solar illuminated surface as opposed to
the absolute lunar nighttime environment and, of something specific
pertaining to whatever earthshine contributes.

This is somewhat like my getting a grasp upon the applied energy
(thrust) involved in accelerating something the size and mass of the
moon.

As feedback provided from: Ami Silberman )

"The mechanisms for the lunar recession have been well understood for
decades. In a nutshell, tides cause friction between the oceans and
the ocean floors, which transfers energy from the solid part of the
earth to the oceans. One of the effects of this friction is that the
tidal bulge is off-center, and is located "eastward" of the moon. (So
the high tide actually occurs when the moon is west of overhead.) The
result of the tidal bulge being off center is that there is a torgue
effect placed on the moon, and this in turn transfers energy from the
earth to the moon. The earth's spin rate slows, the moon is speeded in
its orbit and therefor moves further away from the earth. (This
transfer of energy is essentially a transfer of angular momentum,
which is a conserved quantity.) The historical (over geological eras)
rate of recession has varied due to varying amounts of tidal friction
due to shallower or deeper oceans, and the positions of the
continents."

For the benefit of all my loyal critics, I've conceded that there's a
darn good chance that the likes of Tim Thompson has more than a few
valid points as to his version of what's what. This following page is
just another example of my learning from the pros, of accepting other
input, which may even including the likes of what you've just
presented, that I'd not be calling flak, as there actually seems to be
some considerable worth to at least Tim's version of the lunar
recession, if I don't say so myself.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/earth-moon-energy.htm

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS~GASA http://guthvenus.tripod.com