Modern imaging .

When Copernicus presented the case for axial and orbital motion of the
Earth to the academics of his era,it appears that it took a number of
decades for the educational background to emerge where his notions
could be discussed openly.


The fact is that Newtonian absolute/relative space represents a false
approach to and resolution of retrogrades which left a legacy of
dilemmas and problems which extended into the horror of the early part
of the 20th century -


http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007AmJPh..75..427N

Absolute/relative space based on a hypothetical observer on the Sun
viewing planetary motion as a means to resolve retrogrades is an
incredible waste of effort and especially now with time lapse footage
that clearly,simply and explicitly disproves the statement -

" For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde But from the sun
they are always seen direct ," Newton

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

"It is indeed a matter of great difficulty to discover, and
effectually to distinguish, the true motion of particular bodies from
the apparent; because the parts of that immovable space, in which
those motions are performed, do by no means come under the observation
of our senses." Newton


The simple answer is that we do see the orbital motion of ourselves
and the other planets in a common heliocentric orbit around the
Sun,that is the whole point of the Copernican argument.All the
academics in Oxford and Cambridge cannot argue against it no matter
how well they consider Newton,his reputation and his agenda.

The astronomers after Copernicus could easily move between the pre-
Copernican and heliocentric systems and in someways an astronomer
today has to do the same,between the correct heliocentric methods as
opposed to the late 17th century mutations.The names of the great
astronomers who could handle the transition between geocentric and
heliocentric astronomies and their comments are plain to be see and
all the credit goes to these men long after others are forgotten -

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~mcgrew/chain.htm

On Sep 28, 10:47 pm, oriel36 wrote:

Will Gerald be buried in Westminster Abbey alongside Newton, Darwin
and Herschel?

Answers on a postcard please to Oriel 42. C/O Gerald.

On Oct 2, 10:03 am, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Sep 28, 10:47 pm, oriel36 wrote:

Will Gerald be buried in Westminster Abbey alongside Newton, Darwin
and Herschel?

Answers on a postcard please to Oriel 42. C/O Gerald.

The orbital motion of the Earth produces a counter motion which is
responsible for the global unequal length of the noon cycle -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infr..._2001_2005.jpg

The Equation of Time,therefore represents the rate of change in
orbital orientation if axial rotation is considered as constant.

There is nothing left of the 'universal law of gravitation' applied to
structural astronomy,it is dead and buried along with its exotic
extensions of the last century.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:03:14 -0700, in uk.sci.astronomy , "Chris.B"
wrote:

On Sep 28, 10:47 pm, oriel36 wrote:

Will Gerald be buried in Westminster Abbey alongside Newton, Darwin
and Herschel?

Answers on a postcard please to Oriel 42. C/O Gerald.

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On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, Mark McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:03:14 -0700, in uk.sci.astronomy , "Chris.B"

wrote:
On Sep 28, 10:47 pm, oriel36 wrote:

Will Gerald be buried in Westminster Abbey alongside Newton, Darwin
and Herschel?

Answers on a postcard please to Oriel 42. C/O Gerald.

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What can be said of people who believe that the Earth keeps the same
face to the central Sun over the course of an annual orbit while the
images of Uranus show that the Earth has a counter motion which is
responsible for the unequal length of the noon cycles -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infr..._2001_2005.jpg

No offence to the axial tilting Earth guys but it is time to grow up
and act with reponsibility,the new motion is there whether I propose
it or not.

On Oct 2, 11:56 pm, Mark McIntyre wrote:

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I've got that one. Do you have any doubles you want to swap? :-)