Mars, September 25th '07

Hi all,

Here's a shot of Mars taken on the morning of the 25th September under
reasonable seeing for a change. Although the planet's rather small at
the moment, there's still plenty of detail to be had including some
interesting albedo features n the North Polar Hood.

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/mars/20..._RGB-final.jpg

"Hynden P. Liften" wrote in message
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Hi all,

Here's a shot of Mars taken on the morning of the 25th September under
reasonable seeing for a change. Although the planet's rather small at
the moment, there's still plenty of detail to be had including some
interesting albedo features n the North Polar Hood.

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/mars/20..._RGB-final.jpg


VERY nice -- thanks.

On Sep 26, 11:33 am, Hynden P. Liften
wrote:
Hi all,

Here's a shot of Mars taken on the morning of the 25th September under
reasonable seeing for a change. Although the planet's rather small at
the moment, there's still plenty of detail to be had including some
interesting albedo features n the North Polar Hood.

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/mars/20..._RGB-final.jpg


Beautiful work Mr Hynden P. Liften! There is some other dude in Selsey
with the same equipment. :-)

Anthony.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:16:20 -0700, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:

On Sep 26, 11:33 am, Hynden P. Liften
wrote:
Hi all,

Here's a shot of Mars taken on the morning of the 25th September under
reasonable seeing for a change. Although the planet's rather small at
the moment, there's still plenty of detail to be had including some
interesting albedo features n the North Polar Hood.

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/mars/20..._RGB-final.jpg


Beautiful work Mr Hynden P. Liften! There is some other dude in Selsey
with the same equipment. :-)

Anthony.

Oh dear! I had a bit of problem with my news reader's configuration.
Dredging some settings back from a very old folder has brought back Mr
Liften, a name I used once to try out usenet :-)

He and I are, of course, one and the same. Thank goodness I didn't
come back as Oriel38 or whatever he's called, lol!!

On 26 Sep, 17:38, Pete Lawrence
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:16:20 -0700, Anthony Ayiomamitis





wrote:
On Sep 26, 11:33 am, Hynden P. Liften
wrote:
Hi all,

Here's a shot of Mars taken on the morning of the 25th September under
reasonable seeing for a change. Although the planet's rather small at
the moment, there's still plenty of detail to be had including some
interesting albedo features n the North Polar Hood.

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/mars/20..._RGB-final.jpg

Beautiful work Mr Hynden P. Liften! There is some other dude in Selsey
with the same equipment. :-)

Anthony.

Oh dear! I had a bit of problem with my news reader's configuration.
Dredging some settings back from a very old folder has brought back Mr
Liften, a name I used once to try out usenet :-)

He and I are, of course, one and the same. Thank goodness I didn't
come back as Oriel38 or whatever he's called, lol!!- Hide quoted text -

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Do you not like the change in orbital orientation of the
Earth,attached to orbital motion,which replaces the pseudo-dynamic of
a variable tilting Earth -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infr..._2001_2005.jpg

No offence to Anthony and the late 17th century hoax called the
analemma but make sure that you seperate axial and orbital motion
before you start making up a fiction about axial tilt and the
difference between natural noon and 24 hour clock noon -

http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Solar-Analemma-130000.htm

Pity there is no other astronomer around with enough sense to drop
apparent variations in the Sun's arc from axial orientation,keep axial
orienttion seperate and allow the longitudinal orbital orientation
change to determine the global variations in the natural noon cycle
(as opposed to the 24 hour cycle).

I thought the sequence of images of Uranus was good enough but then
again I have yet to see anybody delight at the sequence of images of
Jupiter and Saturn affirming Copernican reasoning -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

Imaging is super and you and Anthony are good at it,pity that you
cannot put imaging into proper astronomical context and make the leap
from astrologers with telescopes to astronomers with telescopes.

Pete Lawrence wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:16:20 -0700, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:

On Sep 26, 11:33 am, Hynden P. Liften
wrote:
Hi all,

Here's a shot of Mars taken on the morning of the 25th September under
reasonable seeing for a change. Although the planet's rather small at
the moment, there's still plenty of detail to be had including some
interesting albedo features n the North Polar Hood.

http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/mars/20..._RGB-final.jpg

Beautiful work Mr Hynden P. Liften! There is some other dude in Selsey
with the same equipment. :-)

Anthony.

Oh dear! I had a bit of problem with my news reader's configuration.
Dredging some settings back from a very old folder has brought back Mr
Liften, a name I used once to try out usenet :-)

He and I are, of course, one and the same. Thank goodness I didn't
come back as Oriel38 or whatever he's called, lol!!


Why oh why did you have to mention him Pete.

John.

Pete Lawrence wrote in
:

Dredging some settings back from a very old folder has brought back Mr
Liften, a name I used once to try out usenet :-)

He and I are, of course, one and the same. Thank goodness I didn't
come back as Oriel38 or whatever he's called, lol!!

Well, if Oriel was producing pictures as nice as that one, we'd forgive him
a lot anyway. Really, really nice given the current diameter!

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On Sep 27, 1:11 am, Pierre Vandevenne wrote:

Well, if Oriel was producing pictures as nice as that one, we'd forgive him
a lot anyway.

I seriously doubt that Oriel 42 is allowed any glass objects at his
present residence.
So Pete is very unlikely to have any competition from that quarter.

On Sep 28, 1:47 pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Sep 27, 1:11 am, Pierre Vandevenne wrote:



Well, if Oriel was producing pictures as nice as that one, we'd forgive him
a lot anyway.

I seriously doubt that Oriel 42 is allowed any glass objects at his
present residence.
So Pete is very unlikely to have any competition from that quarter.

You have to be an astrologer with magnification and photographic
equipment to believe that the daily noon cycle is 24 hours exactly -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T...3%A9reo.en.png

For many years I have sought a genuine individual who has enough
intelligence and enough courage to openly discuss a the difference
between the daily axial cycle as a principle and axial rotation as
determined by external references.Even though the astronomical
masterpiece where the average 24 hour day was transfered to the axial
cycle as a 'constant' is extremely enjoyable by those with the wits
to acknowledge an unequal natural noon cycle,I have gotten over the
shock that nobody is interested and they much prefer a 24 hour natural
noon cycle as per 'sidereal time'.

What is it that you think you are doing ?,is there some sort of pride
or satisfaction in believing something so obviously wrong that I can
only use words like 'cult indoctrination' to describe this mass
conceptual; disease.The great timekeeping astronomers never,ever tied
the 24 hour day to axial rotation directly even though 4 minutes of
clock time represents 1 degree of geographical seperation,they simply
exploited a feature of the Equation of Time which allows one 24 hour
cycle to elapse into the next and applied it to the daily cycle as a
'constant'.You people actually believe that the daily noon cycle is 24
hours in order to justify a 3 minute 56 second difference,not just
guys with backyard telescopes but those who work on mountaintops with
very large magnification equipment.

On Sep 28, 5:41 pm, oriel36 wrote:

For many years I have sought a genuine individual who has enough
intelligence and enough courage to openly discuss a the difference

Dear Gerald

If you were just looking for a friend then you should have said so.
Instead of beating about the bush.

Intelligence and courage may well be desirable features in a friend
but they make poor bedfellows given your present obsession.

If you lowered your sights a little you might find solace in another
contact group with alternative (less disturbing) interests.

Something like the evolution of Barbie doll hairstyles? Polishing
roadside found driftwood? Or even the discussion of interesting car
washes?

Intellectually challenging at first.. but surely well worth the
effort?

(My apologies if you have already tried these)