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Old August 11th 07, 08:20 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default Differences RT vs Newton

On 11 Aug, 03:10, "qbit" wrote:
What is it that RT can do and classical Newton mechanics cannot do?
I see only these 3 things that are different between Newton and Einstein:
1) relativistic addition of velocities, ie. limiting speeds to c
2) time dilation depending on the intensity of the gravity field
3) blueshift of light rays due to gravitational attraction
These can easily be added to Newtonian mechanics.
Are there any other differences?


Essentially there is only one difference between Newton and Einstein:
The true implication of Newton's particle model of light according to
which the speed of photons varies with both (1) the relative speed of
the light source and the observer and (2) the gravitational potential,
in Einstein's theory was replaced by two statements:

(1) Wrong: The speed of light does NOT vary with the relative speed of
the light source and the observer.

(2) Contradictory: The speed of light does vary with the gravitational
potential in accordance with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2);
also, the speed of light does not vary with the gravitational
potential (is constant in a gravitational field); also, the speed of
light does vary with the gravitational potential but not in accordance
with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2).

Pentcho Valev

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Old August 11th 07, 02:17 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default Differences RT vs Newton

On 11 Aug, 09:20, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 11 Aug, 03:10, "qbit" wrote:

What is it that RT can do and classical Newton mechanics cannot do?
I see only these 3 things that are different between Newton and Einstein:
1) relativistic addition of velocities, ie. limiting speeds to c
2) time dilation depending on the intensity of the gravity field
3) blueshift of light rays due to gravitational attraction
These can easily be added to Newtonian mechanics.
Are there any other differences?


Essentially there is only one difference between Newton and Einstein:
The true implication of Newton's particle model of light according to
which the speed of photons varies with both (1) the relative speed of
the light source and the observer and (2) the gravitational potential,
in Einstein's theory was replaced by two statements:

(1) Wrong: The speed of light does NOT vary with the relative speed of
the light source and the observer.

(2) Contradictory: The speed of light does vary with the gravitational
potential in accordance with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2);
also, the speed of light does not vary with the gravitational
potential (is constant in a gravitational field); also, the speed of
light does vary with the gravitational potential but not in accordance
with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2).


Newton's particle model of light obviously deals with DISCONTINUOUS
STRUCTURES. On the other hand, Einstein's light postulate

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ "...light is
always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which is
independent of the state of motion of the emitting body."

is incompatible with Newton's particle model and can only be dealt
with in terms of the wave model of light presenting light as a
CONTINUOUS FIELD. Now even the silliest zombies in Einstein criminal
cult will be able to understand the confession Einstein made at the
end of his life:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."

Pentcho Valev

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Old August 13th 07, 07:28 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Yanick Toutain
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Default Differences RT vs Newton

On 11 août, 09:20, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 11 Aug, 03:10, "qbit" wrote:

What is it that RT can do and classical Newton mechanics cannot do?
I see only these 3 things that are different between Newton and Einstein:
1) relativistic addition of velocities, ie. limiting speeds to c
2) time dilation depending on the intensity of the gravity field
3) blueshift of light rays due to gravitational attraction
These can easily be added to Newtonian mechanics.
Are there any other differences?


Essentially there is only one difference between Newton and Einstein:
The true implication of Newton's particle model of light according to
which the speed of photons varies with both (1) the relative speed of
the light source and the observer and (2) the gravitational potential,
in Einstein's theory was replaced by two statements:

(1) Wrong: The speed of light does NOT vary with the relative speed of
the light source and the observer.

(2) Contradictory: The speed of light does vary with the gravitational
potential in accordance with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2);
also, the speed of light does not vary with the gravitational
potential (is constant in a gravitational field); also, the speed of
light does vary with the gravitational potential but not in accordance
with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2).

Pentcho Valev


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