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Old May 24th 07, 04:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
Anthony Ayiomamitis
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Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please see
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm .... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.

Clear skies!

Anthony.
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Old May 24th 07, 05:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
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In article , Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:
Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please see
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm .... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.


I'm not sure he actually _understands_ apparent frames of reference. If
he did then he might actually shut up for a while.


Very nice work both of you, by the way :-)

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Old May 24th 07, 05:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
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On May 24, 10:54 am, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:
Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please seehttp://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm.... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


Cool, gentlemen. Exponentially cool.
Praises to the both of you.

Thorazine ( iv drip ) for the crazy guy.

Ben


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Old May 24th 07, 05:16 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
Richard Tobin
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In article ,
Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please see
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm


Very nice.

I think the inverse picture would also be interesting, with one image
of Regulus and two of the moon. Would the difference in fullness of
the moon be visible?

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Old May 24th 07, 05:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
Anthony Ayiomamitis
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Richard Tobin wrote:
In article ,
Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:


For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please see
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm



Very nice.


Glad you like it.


I think the inverse picture would also be interesting, with one image
of Regulus and two of the moon. Would the difference in fullness of
the moon be visible?


I thought about this as well ... it can be done and it would probably be
best to have the current moon as is and simply add the second (higher)
moon using Pete's Regulus as reference and with a thin artificial
separator between the two moons.

Anthony.


-- Richard

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Old May 24th 07, 05:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
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Ben wrote:
On May 24, 10:54 am, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:
Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please seehttp://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm.... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


Cool, gentlemen. Exponentially cool.
Praises to the both of you.


Hear hear! Very cool.

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Old May 24th 07, 06:19 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy
Mark Annand
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Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:

I thought about this as well ... it can be done and it would probably be
best to have the current moon as is and simply add the second (higher)
moon using Pete's Regulus as reference and with a thin artificial
separator between the two moons.


Please could you produce a stereoscopic pair of images?

Mark
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Old May 24th 07, 08:06 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
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On May 24, 4:54 pm, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:
Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please seehttp://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm.... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


The antidote for you is Huygens -

http://www.xs4all.nl/~adcs/Huygens/06/kort-E.html

A guy who does not know the basic correlation between the natural noon
cycle and the 24 hour day is no astronomer,the fact that you are
enamored with the 17th century analemma hoax and a non existent figure
8 assures you a position right up there with the creationists.

There is nothing remotely close to that scandal where men cannot even
acknowledge how clocks keep in sync with the axial cycle as a 24 hour/
360 degree correlation or rather attach the rotation of the Earth
directly to a celestial sphere and believe a location rotates to noon
in 24 hours in order to justify the return of a star in 23 hours 56
minutes 04 seconds -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time

That 'sidereal time' explanation is as though an enormous joke is
being played on humanity and there is nothing funny about it.What in
God's name are people doing ?,what insanity grips people when it has
been known from antiquity that no two cycles are the same -

" Here take notice, that the Sun or the Earth passeth the 12.
Signes, or makes an entire revolution in the Ecliptick in 365 days, 5
hours 49 min. or there about, and that those days, reckon'd from noon
to noon, are of different lenghts; as is known to all that are vers'd
in Astronomy. Now between the longest and the shortest of those days,
a day may be taken of such a length, as 365 such days, 5. hours &c.
(the same numbers as before) make up, or are equall to that
revolution: And this is call'd the Equal or Mean day, according to
which the Watches are to be set; and therefore the Hour or Minute
shew'd by the Watches, though they be perfectly Iust and equal, must
needs differ almost continually from those that are shew'd by the Sun,
or are reckon'd according to its Motion. But this Difference is
regular, and is otherwise call'd the Aequation, and here you have a
Table, that shows" Huygens

http://www.xs4all.nl/~adcs/Huygens/06/kort-E.html

With everything laid out before all of you and you still can't admire
how the 24 hour day is created out of the natural cycle and how it is
applied to clocks and the axial cycle.












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Old May 24th 07, 08:35 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
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On May 24, 4:54 pm, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:
Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please seehttp://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm.... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.

Clear skies!

Anthony.


..

The Roemerian insight on the astronomical adjustment know as the
Equation of Light is based on orbital comparisons just as Kepler's
refinement of orbital geometries is based on orbital comparisons.

http://books.google.com/books?id=N6T...+jupiter+earth

There is nothing remotely difficult in determining that the illusion
of the irregular motion of Io is due to finite light speed and this is
how the great astronomers understood it .Because the Flamsteed/Newton
maneuver of introducing the astrological framework into heliocentric
reasoning,Bradley finished heliocentricity off by invoking the
background stars and paralax to account for the Roiemerian insight.

The irregular motion of Io still can be seen today and the insight of
Roemer can still be appreciated without appealing to stellar
parallax but rather to orbital comparisons between a moving Earth and
slower orbitally moving Jupiter -

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/heather.../JupiterIo.jpg

http://www.msgc.org/images/ioshadow_msgc.gif

A real astronomer would be taking note of the change in the
orientation of Io's shadow due to the change in orbital positions
between Earth and Jupiter as both planets orbit the central star.

Go back to occultations,personally I think birdwatching photography is
far more difficult than what you do.At least the birdwatchers put
thing in correct context.







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Old May 24th 07, 09:09 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy
Anthony Ayiomamitis
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oriel36 wrote:
On May 24, 4:54 pm, Anthony Ayiomamitis
wrote:

Dear group,

Pete Lawrence and I pooled our work from yesterday surrounding the
near-occultation of Regulus by the moon to produce an interesting view
of how Regulus appeared relatively to the moon for the two of us
separated by 2370 km apart.

For an interesting comparison of this apparent view, please seehttp://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Parallax.htm.... someone please
provide oriel with his medication before he starts mumbling het again
about astrologers, axial rotation, apparent frames of reference and
whatever else I may have missed.

Clear skies!

Anthony.



.

The Roemerian insight on the astronomical adjustment know as the
Equation of Light is based on orbital comparisons just as Kepler's
refinement of orbital geometries is based on orbital comparisons.


snip


Go back to occultations,personally I think birdwatching photography is
far more difficult than what you do.At least the birdwatchers put
thing in correct context.


Does this mean you will not be computing an estimated distance of the
moon from earth using this collaborative work so that we can compare
estimates?

The image scale of the resampled image is around 2.51"/pixel. ;-)

Anthony.
 




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