UFO sighting????

i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

I was seeing a film on tv.. that one of my friend enquired what that
"red and blue light emitting " thing was?.. i said to him.. shut up..
it must be some helicopter what else.!!?? he and his friends started
laughing at my comment...as they knew it was not a helicopter.... they
argued that it didnt move..and that it was "twinkling"!!.. but i had
almost been certain it was something like helicoptor..that sends
redlight for visibility coz, the light was striking... had immense
intensity.. so much that i really thought it was something in the sky
close by!!!...

i wanted to disprove my freaked out friend..as he wasnt allowing me to
see the film..with his "insane" fiction stories about UFO... SO to
keep him quite i went out to observe... TO my astonishment... i'll
tell you what i saw.." SOmething bigger than a star, much much
brighter...the most brightest star i have ever seen, was twinklingwith
immense power.. that the redlight and blue light almost strained my
eyes like a laser beam!!... was moving..though slowly"

In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30 degrees towards the upper part of
sky.. and almost became like a normal star(almost). Then on..next day
the sky was cloudy and no stars were visible at night..so i really
couldnt make a follow up.


I have no idea what it was... and my friends are also equally
puzzled.. Though we know definitley ..that there has to be some
explanation.... MAy be a comet... a satellite.. or something(but our
logic doesnt still deduce that!!)...

We are studying in Engineering college.

my college web address : " www.mace.ac.in "
my email id :

Hi Joel,

Interesting huh !
So, couple of questions :
Where are you physically ?
From which (local) time until when did you see this ?
Did you make a picture or video of this light effect ?
Did you contact any authorities ? What did they say ? Did they notice ?
Do you know of other people that noticed this ?
In your opinion, how far away did this phenomenon occur ? (in the
atmosphere, or in space around earth, or very, very far away) ?
Did it make any sudden moves, or was it moving ever so slowly in one
direction ?
Did you hear anything, or was this silent ?
How fast was the 'twinkling' ? How deep was the twinking (did it go on-off
or merely dimmed a bit) ?
Was the twinkling in color or in amplitude ?

All this, and anything else you can recall might help in figuring out what
you saw.

Rob


"Codemutant" wrote in message
om...
i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

I was seeing a film on tv.. that one of my friend enquired what that
"red and blue light emitting " thing was?.. i said to him.. shut up..
it must be some helicopter what else.!!?? he and his friends started
laughing at my comment...as they knew it was not a helicopter.... they
argued that it didnt move..and that it was "twinkling"!!.. but i had
almost been certain it was something like helicoptor..that sends
redlight for visibility coz, the light was striking... had immense
intensity.. so much that i really thought it was something in the sky
close by!!!...

i wanted to disprove my freaked out friend..as he wasnt allowing me to
see the film..with his "insane" fiction stories about UFO... SO to
keep him quite i went out to observe... TO my astonishment... i'll
tell you what i saw.." SOmething bigger than a star, much much
brighter...the most brightest star i have ever seen, was twinklingwith
immense power.. that the redlight and blue light almost strained my
eyes like a laser beam!!... was moving..though slowly"

In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30 degrees towards the upper part of
sky.. and almost became like a normal star(almost). Then on..next day
the sky was cloudy and no stars were visible at night..so i really
couldnt make a follow up.


I have no idea what it was... and my friends are also equally
puzzled.. Though we know definitley ..that there has to be some
explanation.... MAy be a comet... a satellite.. or something(but our
logic doesnt still deduce that!!)...

We are studying in Engineering college.

my college web address : " www.mace.ac.in "
my email id :

Hell, I see UFO's all the time. They are flying, and I don't know what
they are (a UFO for sure :-).

A couple of my favorites that turned out to be merely FOs:

The goodyear blimp with its advertising all lit up on the side, only it
was headed right for me - really pretty amazing looking until it turned
90 degrees and I could see it was the blimp.

At dusk one night, a giant triangular object with strange spooky shimmering
sides was coming from the distance and headed right for me (right out of an
X-files episode it looked like), making not the slightest whisper of
sound. Once it did go right above me, I was able to resolve the individual
birds flying in a V formation.
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Codemutant wrote:

i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

You think your sighting is strange. Read this - posted earlier this
year on space.com!



Silent Running: 'Black Triangle'
Sightings on the Rise
By Leonard David
Senior Space Writer
posted: 02 September 2004 06:50 am ET

They have become legendary in UFO circles. Huge, silent-running “Flying
Triangles” have been seen by ground observers creeping through the sky
low and slow near cities and quietly cruising over highways.

The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), has catalogued the
Triangle sightings, sifting through and combining databases to take a
hard look at the mystery craft. Based in Las Vegas, Nevada, NIDS is a
privately funded science institute with a strong research focusing on
aerial phenomena. The results of their study have just been released
and lead to some unnerving, still puzzling conclusions.

The study points out: “The United States is currently experiencing a
wave of Flying Triangle sightings that may have intensified in the
1990s, especially towards the latter part of the 1990s. The wave
continues. The Flying Triangles are being openly deployed over and near
population centers, including in the vicinity of major Interstate
Highways.”

Covert operations?

A key NIDS conclusion is that the actions of these triangular craft do
not conform to previous patterns of covert deployment of unacknowledged
aircraft. Furthermore, “neither the agenda nor the origin of the Flying
Triangles are currently known.”

The years 1990-2004 have seen an intense wave of Flying Triangle
aircraft, the study observes. Sifting through reports by hundreds of
eyewitnesses, the NIDS assessment states that the behavior of the
vehicles “does not appear consistent with the covert deployment of an
advanced DoD [U.S. Department of the Defense] aircraft.”

Rather, it is consistent with (a) the routine and open deployment of an
unacknowledged advanced DoD aircraft or (b) the routine and open
deployment of an aircraft owned and operated by non-DoD personnel,
suggests the NIDS study.

“The implications of the latter possibility are disturbing, especially
during the post 9/11 era when the United States airspace is extremely
heavily guarded and monitored,” the NIDS study explains. “In support of
option (a), there is much greater need for surveillance in the United
States in the post 9/11 era and it is certainly conceivable that
deployment of low altitude surveillance platforms is routine and open.”

Open, even brazen

According to Colm Kelleher, NIDS Administrator, the newly completed
quasi “meta-analysis” of Flying Triangles melds three major U.S.
databases: NIDS, the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) and data collected by
independent researcher, Larry Hatch, the creator and owner of one of the
largest and most comprehensive UFO databases in the world.

Kelleher said, the analysis indicates that deployment of Flying
Triangles is open, not covert, and involves low-flying, brightly lit
aircraft routinely deployed over populated areas including cities and
Interstate highways.

“However, I cannot say whether these are U.S. Air Force aircraft. We
simply don't know,” Kelleher told SPACE.com . “But it does not appear to
be consistent with the covert patterns of deployment we saw with the
F-117 and B-2 prior to their acknowledgement. This is open, even
brazen,” he stated.

Stealth aircraft

For example, a perfunctory look at the how past DoD stealth aircraft
programs were kept from public eye -- although eventually came to light
-- is different from the patterns for the Flying Triangles.

Prior to acknowledgement of the F-117 and B-2 aircraft, only rare night
time sightings occurred in the sparsely populated sections of Nevada,
California and a few other states. Flying at low altitude over populated
areas was rarely reported for the F-117 or B-2.

“In contrast, the Flying Triangle deployment, especially during the
1990s, appears more consistent with the open and public operation of
these aircraft,” the study explains. The trend of open deployment of the
Flying Triangles is not consistent with secret operation of an advanced
DoD aircraft.

No attempt to hide

The database-driven study of the Flying Triangle shows the following
patterns:

-- Sightings take place near cities and on Interstate highways -- They
are seen at low altitude in plain sight of eyewitnesses -- They fly at
extremely low speed or hover in plain sight of eyewitnesses -- The
vehicles sometime fly with easily noticeable bright lights -- either
blinding white lights, or have “bright disco lights” that usually flash
combinations of red, green or blue.

The NIDS study emphasizes that the flying of these vehicles may be more
in harmony with an attempt to display or to be noticed. There appears to
be little or no attempt to hide. That finding has led to a modification
of an earlier NIDS hypothesis that the Triangles are covertly deployed
DoD aircraft.

While it is too early to dismiss the previously published NIDS
correlation between Triangle sightings and a subset of U.S. Air Force
Bases, the apparent association with centers of population may point
away from a covert program. “Rather, it is consistent with routine and
open deployment of an advanced aircraft,” the NIDS study concludes.

Clustered on both coasts

During the ensuing years (2000-2004), NIDS received hundreds of reports
from people in the United States and Canada reporting large triangular
aircraft, often silent and often flying at very low altitude and at low
air speed. In many cases, the objects were brightly lit. NIDS files also
include reports of Flying Triangles from remote areas.

In mid 2004, NIDS reviewed its database that contains the locations of
the Triangle sightings in the United States. The sightings of Triangles
appear primarily adjacent to population centers and along Interstate
Highways, with sightings clustered on both coasts.

NIDS has amassed almost 400 separate sightings of
triangular/boomerang/wedge-shaped objects. Many of these craft are
brightly lit, low flying, and traveling at unexpectedly low air speeds.

In earlier reports, NIDS outlined a tentative correlation between
reported sightings of Triangles and the locations of Air Mobility
Command and Air Force Materiel Command bases in the United States.

Like a Star Trek "uncloaking"

According to ground observers, the features of a Black Triangle are
indeed impressive.

For example, the NIDS study includes the observation of a Port
Washington Wisconsin person who encountered a large object that flew
over her home at 500 feet altitude in October 1998. Her eyeing of the
clear starry night was interrupted as the craft came into her field of
view.

“Suddenly this monstrosity came out of the ‘blue’, just like a Star Trek
'uncloaking', no kidding…so quiet I couldn’t believe it and so huge…no
more than 500 feet or so up, and big enough to take up my field of sky
vision,” she reported.

Crude mathematics, the witness recounted, would make the vessel about
200 feet wide and 250 feet long.

Two camps

In wrapping up its look at the burgeoning number of Flying Triangle
sightings in the United States, NIDS also took into account the work of
writers and researchers delving into the topic both in the United States
and abroad.

Those analyses fall into two camps: The Triangles are human-made, while
the other says they are not.

“In 2004 it is extremely difficult to distinguish between these two
possibilities since the former option overlaps heavily with legitimate
national security concerns, while in the absence of much more physical
evidence, the latter option is not testable,” the NIDS assessment concludes.

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On 2004-11-23, Codemutant wrote:
i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

I was seeing a film on tv.. that one of my friend enquired what that
"red and blue light emitting " thing was?.. i said to him.. shut up..
it must be some helicopter what else.!!?? he and his friends started
laughing at my comment...as they knew it was not a helicopter.... they
argued that it didnt move..and that it was "twinkling"!!.. but i had
almost been certain it was something like helicoptor..that sends
redlight for visibility coz, the light was striking... had immense
intensity.. so much that i really thought it was something in the sky
close by!!!...

i wanted to disprove my freaked out friend..as he wasnt allowing me to
see the film..with his "insane" fiction stories about UFO... SO to
keep him quite i went out to observe... TO my astonishment... i'll
tell you what i saw.." SOmething bigger than a star, much much
brighter...the most brightest star i have ever seen, was twinklingwith
immense power.. that the redlight and blue light almost strained my
eyes like a laser beam!!... was moving..though slowly"

In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30 degrees towards the upper part of
sky.. and almost became like a normal star(almost). Then on..next day
the sky was cloudy and no stars were visible at night..so i really
couldnt make a follow up.


I have no idea what it was... and my friends are also equally
puzzled.. Though we know definitley ..that there has to be some
explanation.... MAy be a comet... a satellite.. or something(but our
logic doesnt still deduce that!!)...

We are studying in Engineering college.

my college web address : " www.mace.ac.in "
my email id :


Sounds like could have been the star sirius, especially when it's
low it can appear big (just like when the moon is low on the horizon
it appears to be big), with clear skies, and with ice crystals
high up in the atmosphere, sirius can look like it has a strong
twinkle with what looks like red, white and blue color components,
because sirius is one of the few stars that are so bright that they
can excite the color receptors in our eyes.

Also see http://www.star.le.ac.uk/edu/ask/stars_faq.html#3
(What makes stars twinkle ?)
and
http://www.star.le.ac.uk/edu/ask/stars_faq.html#9
(What is the brightest star ?)

Rasta Robert
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http://rr.www.cistron.nl/ -!- http://www.rr.dds.nl/

wow,
thanx Rasta... i guess your explanation is as close as it can get(but
still ..1 point still remains unclarified.. how did it move?? if it
was a star).. and even i have been wanting to hear something solidly
logical.... not that i believe in any "u"fo crap... just that.. i
wasnt able to figure it out... huhh.. your explanation was damn good..
why didnt i figure it out in the first place?? ;-p

thanx
joel.


Rasta Robert wrote in message ...
On 2004-11-23, Codemutant wrote:
i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

I was seeing a film on tv.. that one of my friend enquired what that
"red and blue light emitting " thing was?.. i said to him.. shut up..
it must be some helicopter what else.!!?? he and his friends started
laughing at my comment...as they knew it was not a helicopter.... they
argued that it didnt move..and that it was "twinkling"!!.. but i had
almost been certain it was something like helicoptor..that sends
redlight for visibility coz, the light was striking... had immense
intensity.. so much that i really thought it was something in the sky
close by!!!...

i wanted to disprove my freaked out friend..as he wasnt allowing me to
see the film..with his "insane" fiction stories about UFO... SO to
keep him quite i went out to observe... TO my astonishment... i'll
tell you what i saw.." SOmething bigger than a star, much much
brighter...the most brightest star i have ever seen, was twinklingwith
immense power.. that the redlight and blue light almost strained my
eyes like a laser beam!!... was moving..though slowly"

In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30 degrees towards the upper part of
sky.. and almost became like a normal star(almost). Then on..next day
the sky was cloudy and no stars were visible at night..so i really
couldnt make a follow up.


I have no idea what it was... and my friends are also equally
puzzled.. Though we know definitley ..that there has to be some
explanation.... MAy be a comet... a satellite.. or something(but our
logic doesnt still deduce that!!)...

We are studying in Engineering college.

my college web address : " www.mace.ac.in "
my email id :


Sounds like could have been the star sirius, especially when it's
low it can appear big (just like when the moon is low on the horizon
it appears to be big), with clear skies, and with ice crystals
high up in the atmosphere, sirius can look like it has a strong
twinkle with what looks like red, white and blue color components,
because sirius is one of the few stars that are so bright that they
can excite the color receptors in our eyes.

Also see http://www.star.le.ac.uk/edu/ask/stars_faq.html#3
(What makes stars twinkle ?)
and
http://www.star.le.ac.uk/edu/ask/stars_faq.html#9
(What is the brightest star ?)

Rasta Robert
--//-

"Codemutant" wrote in message
om...
wow,
thanx Rasta... i guess your explanation is as close as it can get(but
still ..1 point still remains unclarified.. how did it move?? if it
was a star)..


Hi Joel,

I'm just getting started with this, but couple of things of interest can be
noted if you were lloking at Sirius :

- Since anyhing in the sky rotates at about 15 degrees per hour, all stars
(including the Sirius and the sun) will 'move' 60 degrees (longitude) in a 4
hour period. There is also a +23 degree to -23 degree lateral movement
visible, due to inclination of the earth. All this means that all stars
(including the sun and Sirius) move quite a bit in a 4 hour period.

- If you were watching this light from the beginning of the evening, then
this matches your observation of : "In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30
degrees towards the upper part of sky".

- Sirius is a -16degrees declination, which means it is just south of the
equator.
The sun is currently also at -16 degrees, so Sirius currently follows almost
the same circle as the sun.

- Now here it gets interesting : Sirius has a 6 hour right ascension, and
currently the sun has about a 16 hour right ascension. So Sirius currently
comes up (rises) about 10 hours before the sun does.
From most places on the planet, it thus appears 2 hours after sunset and
reaches its highest point at about 3am. Is this the time window in which you
noticed the light ?

Rob

Here is a good explanation of celestial systems :

http://www.krysstal.com/coordsystems.html

Rob

as i said: 9:30 IST(+5:30 GMT) is what i saw it at its peak..actuall
thats when i first observed it.. thereafter its intensity started
dimnishing and it started moving as noted earlier.

joel.


"Rob Dekker" wrote in message .com...
"Codemutant" wrote in message
om...
wow,
thanx Rasta... i guess your explanation is as close as it can get(but
still ..1 point still remains unclarified.. how did it move?? if it
was a star)..


Hi Joel,

I'm just getting started with this, but couple of things of interest can be
noted if you were lloking at Sirius :

- Since anyhing in the sky rotates at about 15 degrees per hour, all stars
(including the Sirius and the sun) will 'move' 60 degrees (longitude) in a 4
hour period. There is also a +23 degree to -23 degree lateral movement
visible, due to inclination of the earth. All this means that all stars
(including the sun and Sirius) move quite a bit in a 4 hour period.

- If you were watching this light from the beginning of the evening, then
this matches your observation of : "In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30
degrees towards the upper part of sky".

- Sirius is a -16degrees declination, which means it is just south of the
equator.
The sun is currently also at -16 degrees, so Sirius currently follows almost
the same circle as the sun.

- Now here it gets interesting : Sirius has a 6 hour right ascension, and
currently the sun has about a 16 hour right ascension. So Sirius currently
comes up (rises) about 10 hours before the sun does.
From most places on the planet, it thus appears 2 hours after sunset and
reaches its highest point at about 3am. Is this the time window in which you
noticed the light ?

Rob

Here is a good explanation of celestial systems :

http://www.krysstal.com/coordsystems.html

Rob

Codemutant wrote:

i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

I was seeing a film on tv.. that one of my friend enquired what that
"red and blue light emitting " thing was?.. i said to him.. shut up..
it must be some helicopter what else.!!?? he and his friends started
laughing at my comment...as they knew it was not a helicopter.... they
argued that it didnt move..and that it was "twinkling"!!.. but i had
almost been certain it was something like helicoptor..that sends
redlight for visibility coz, the light was striking... had immense
intensity.. so much that i really thought it was something in the sky
close by!!!...

i wanted to disprove my freaked out friend..as he wasnt allowing me to
see the film..with his "insane" fiction stories about UFO... SO to
keep him quite i went out to observe... TO my astonishment... i'll
tell you what i saw.." SOmething bigger than a star, much much
brighter...the most brightest star i have ever seen, was twinklingwith
immense power.. that the redlight and blue light almost strained my
eyes like a laser beam!!... was moving..though slowly"

In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30 degrees towards the upper part of
sky.. and almost became like a normal star(almost).

atmospheric effects -



Then on..next day
the sky was cloudy and no stars were visible at night..so i really
couldnt make a follow up.

I have no idea what it was... and my friends are also equally
puzzled.. Though we know definitley ..that there has to be some
explanation.... MAy be a comet... a satellite.. or something(but our
logic doesnt still deduce that!!)...

We are studying in Engineering college.

my college web address : " www.mace.ac.in "
my email id :

nightbat wrote

Ron wrote:

Codemutant wrote:

i saw something awesome on friday night at about 9:30pm(Indian
Standard Time).

I was seeing a film on tv.. that one of my friend enquired what that
"red and blue light emitting " thing was?.. i said to him.. shut up..
it must be some helicopter what else.!!?? he and his friends started
laughing at my comment...as they knew it was not a helicopter.... they
argued that it didnt move..and that it was "twinkling"!!.. but i had
almost been certain it was something like helicoptor..that sends
redlight for visibility coz, the light was striking... had immense
intensity.. so much that i really thought it was something in the sky
close by!!!...

i wanted to disprove my freaked out friend..as he wasnt allowing me to
see the film..with his "insane" fiction stories about UFO... SO to
keep him quite i went out to observe... TO my astonishment... i'll
tell you what i saw.." SOmething bigger than a star, much much
brighter...the most brightest star i have ever seen, was twinklingwith
immense power.. that the redlight and blue light almost strained my
eyes like a laser beam!!... was moving..though slowly"

In 4 hours.. it almost travelled 30 degrees towards the upper part of
sky.. and almost became like a normal star(almost).

Ron
atmospheric effects -

nightbat

Nope, just perhaps our cosmic alien queen Darla coming in from
that long cloud jump mission. Not to worry, now that the hopeful first
official contact aliens are returning you probably caught sight of the
larger mother ship. If everything goes all right and the Commander Pros
finally grants permission for 1st official extraterrestrial to Earth
contact, you may have witnessed history in the making.


the nightbat






Then on..next day
the sky was cloudy and no stars were visible at night..so i really
couldnt make a follow up.

I have no idea what it was... and my friends are also equally
puzzled.. Though we know definitley ..that there has to be some
explanation.... MAy be a comet... a satellite.. or something(but our
logic doesnt still deduce that!!)...

We are studying in Engineering college.

my college web address : " www.mace.ac.in "
my email id :