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Old November 13th 04, 10:22 PM
glbrad01
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Default Costs of one versus costs of one million

I get tired of reading relativistic projections of costs where someone
will take the costs of training and putting just one or two, or three or
four, astronauts or cosmonauts into space per year and project precisely
those same costs to mass transportation of thousands to millions into space.
Everything concerning putting one or two, or three or four, astronauts or
cosmonauts into space is individually planned and tooled, literally
handcrafted, for each specific mission. The cost of handcrafting from the
bottom-up, per micro-managed top-down planning, precise specifications and
precise controls, for every single one or two, or three or four, humans, and
the one lift and mission, will always be at least thousands of times greater
than mass production costs no matter what the type vehicle or propulsion
system involved.

Under such a system, real advancement, and real lowering of costs, will be
on a time scale that type of system has always followed, that of one
advancement in a hundred, to one advancement in a thousand, years.

Brad


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Old November 14th 04, 03:20 AM
Christian Ramos
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"glbrad01" wrote in message
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I get tired of reading relativistic projections of costs where someone
will take the costs of training and putting just one or two, or three or
four, astronauts or cosmonauts into space per year and project precisely
those same costs to mass transportation of thousands to millions into

space.
Everything concerning putting one or two, or three or four, astronauts or
cosmonauts into space is individually planned and tooled, literally
handcrafted, for each specific mission. The cost of handcrafting from the
bottom-up, per micro-managed top-down planning, precise specifications and
precise controls, for every single one or two, or three or four, humans,

and
the one lift and mission, will always be at least thousands of times

greater
than mass production costs no matter what the type vehicle or propulsion
system involved.

Under such a system, real advancement, and real lowering of costs, will

be
on a time scale that type of system has always followed, that of one
advancement in a hundred, to one advancement in a thousand, years.

Brad


What would be your preferred methodology??


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Old November 14th 04, 10:46 PM
Earl Colby Pottinger
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"Christian Ramos" :

What would be your preferred methodology??


Brad is a bit of a flake but http://www.emachineshop.com/faq/prices.htm gives
a good example of how prices of custom parts fall as you order more and more
of them.

Earl Colby Pottinger

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Old November 14th 04, 11:37 PM
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"Earl Colby Pottinger" wrote in message
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"Christian Ramos" :

What would be your preferred methodology??


Brad is a bit of a flake but http://www.emachineshop.com/faq/prices.htm

gives
a good example of how prices of custom parts fall as you order more and

more
of them.


Pricing as always is a bit of a black art, but given Brad's strong feelings
on perceived current pricing structure I had hoped he had an alternative in
mind, guess not.

Interesting site, now do you know the similar site that does the same thing
but with titanium. Never really found one I was happy with


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Old November 16th 04, 02:59 AM
George William Herbert
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Christian Ramos wrote:
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Interesting site, now do you know the similar site that does the same thing
but with titanium. Never really found one I was happy with


They do work with Titanium, Inconel, Hastelloy, Monel, most types of
Stainless, Aluminum, etc etc etc. And a long list of others.

Download the program and look at the part material list.


-george william herbert


 




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