Wave as wave, particle as particle

Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator
were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934. These atomic
models are imperfect and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum
in addition to their numerous fallacies. However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.

The wavelength of all 6 sets of hydrogen spectra, Humprey, Pfund,
Brackett, Ritz-Paschen, Balmer, and Lyman, calculated by Dr. Hansik
Yoon's formula surprisingly coincided with the experimentally observed
ones. Of course, Dr. Yoon didn't use such unscientific models as QM or
relativity in this calculation. Moreover, his formula estimated
(predicted) other wavelengths not yet observed up to the time. For
example, in the case of Ritz-Paschen series, the estimated wavelengths
were 8201.40 Angstrom,... 8860.40, 9012.5, 9226.6, 9545.97(*),
10049.4(*), 10938.1(*), 12818.1(*), etc. Here, wavelengths with (*)
symbol have been experimentally observed up to the time. In the case of
Lyman series, 911.269A,... 926.226(*), 930.748(*), 937.803(*),
949.743(*), 972.537(*), 1025.722(*), 1215.668(*). If someone already
observed the wavelengths without (*) symbol, try to observe the Pfund
series, 22781.2A, ... 28714.5, 3.375.6, 32952.1, 37385.4, 46525.1(*),
74578.0(*) etc. According to Dr. Yoon's theory on the hydrogen
spectrum, for Lyman series the bombarding electrons must have a
frequency of longitudinal oscillation resonant to the frequency of
'orbital electron rings' with radial parameter gamma= 1 in order them
to oscillate without destructing it. The energy capacity of orbital
electron ring with radial parameter gamma = 1 that emits Lyman series
of hydrogen spectrum is at least 1295 times greater than the electron
ring with radial parameter gamma=6 that emits Humphrey series. This is
just an example of scientific facts among many breakthroughs in Dr.
Yoon's book.

Dr. Yoon also proved that the light is not a flow of photons in Part
II, Chapter 5(www.yoonsatom.net).
Many people seem to be very ignorant of the breadth and depth of Dr.
Yoon's new physics, at these days. newedana wrote what learned from Dr.
Yoon's "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model".

newedana wrote:
Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator

Why exactly are these "primitive"?


were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934.

Indeed. So what?


These atomic models are imperfect

You are right: Bohr's atomic model is imperfect. Hint: that's why
it hasn't been used for about 80 years.


and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum

Indeed. Hint: that's why it hasn't been used for about 80 years.

in addition to their numerous fallacies.

For example?


However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.

The wavelength of all 6 sets of hydrogen spectra, Humprey, Pfund,
Brackett, Ritz-Paschen, Balmer, and Lyman, calculated by Dr. Hansik
Yoon's formula surprisingly coincided with the experimentally observed
ones.

Please give the formula and tell us how it was derived.


Of course, Dr. Yoon didn't use such unscientific models as QM or
relativity in this calculation.

Why are these unscientific?


Moreover, his formula estimated
(predicted) other wavelengths not yet observed up to the time.

ROTFL!

Hint: if a model predicts something which is not observed, the model
is in deep trouble.


For example, in the case of Ritz-Paschen series, the estimated wavelengths
were 8201.40 Angstrom,... 8860.40, 9012.5, 9226.6, 9545.97(*),
10049.4(*), 10938.1(*), 12818.1(*), etc. Here, wavelengths with (*)
symbol have been experimentally observed up to the time. In the case of
Lyman series, 911.269A,... 926.226(*), 930.748(*), 937.803(*),
949.743(*), 972.537(*), 1025.722(*), 1215.668(*). If someone already
observed the wavelengths without (*) symbol, try to observe the Pfund
series, 22781.2A, ... 28714.5, 3.375.6, 32952.1, 37385.4, 46525.1(*),
74578.0(*) etc. According to Dr. Yoon's theory on the hydrogen
spectrum, for Lyman series the bombarding electrons

What bombarding electrons???


must have a
frequency of longitudinal oscillation resonant to the frequency of
'orbital electron rings' with radial parameter gamma= 1 in order them
to oscillate without destructing it. The energy capacity of orbital
electron ring with radial parameter gamma = 1 that emits Lyman series
of hydrogen spectrum is at least 1295 times greater than the electron
ring with radial parameter gamma=6 that emits Humphrey series. This is
just an example of scientific facts among many breakthroughs in Dr.
Yoon's book.

Try to understand the difference between "fact" and "unsupported
assertion".


Dr. Yoon also proved that the light is not a flow of photons in Part
II, Chapter 5(www.yoonsatom.net).

And how exactly did he do that?


Many people seem to be very ignorant of the breadth and depth of Dr.
Yoon's new physics, at these days. newedana wrote what learned from Dr.
Yoon's "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model".

But we are wekk aware of his arrogance, ignorance, and refusal to deal
with the evidence.


Bye,
Bjoern

newedana:
Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator
were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934. These atomic
models are imperfect and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum
in addition to their numerous fallacies.

Well, let's see - the bohr model is about 95 years old and was replaced
almost 95 years ago by the bohr-sommerfeld model, which was replaced
almost 80 years ago by quantum mechanics and refined about 75 years ago by
dirac's theory. Why would you expect an alternative to the bohr model to
be of any interest? Aside from your misguided notions of ``primative,''
why would you expect the harmonic oscillator to be a model of the hydrogen
atom? The potential for the harmonic oscillator is proportional to r^2.
The coulomb potential is proportional to 1/r. Does that look the same to
you?

However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.

Why, is he analyzing the hydrogen atom using qed? If not,
what does he predict for the 2s - 1s transition rate?
How about the lamb shift? Qute honestly, if you are having to
create strawmen from a theory that outlived its purpose before
1920 and a theory which isn't even applicable to the question,
to peddle your alternative, you should quit before you get
further behind.

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"newedana" wrote in message
oups.com...
Bohr's atomic model and other primitive models like Quantum oscillator
were established before the discovery of neutron in 1934.

And have long since been replaced by QM and later QFT.

These atomic
models are imperfect and incorrect even in explaining hydrogen spectrum
in addition to their numerous fallacies.

Which is why they were replaced.

However the hydrogen spectrum
can be more scientifically analyzed by Dr. Yoon's physics.


Does it use QFT? If not in what way is it better than QFT?

Bill


The wavelength of all 6 sets of hydrogen spectra, Humprey, Pfund,
Brackett, Ritz-Paschen, Balmer, and Lyman, calculated by Dr. Hansik
Yoon's formula surprisingly coincided with the experimentally observed
ones. Of course, Dr. Yoon didn't use such unscientific models as QM or
relativity in this calculation. Moreover, his formula estimated
(predicted) other wavelengths not yet observed up to the time. For
example, in the case of Ritz-Paschen series, the estimated wavelengths
were 8201.40 Angstrom,... 8860.40, 9012.5, 9226.6, 9545.97(*),
10049.4(*), 10938.1(*), 12818.1(*), etc. Here, wavelengths with (*)
symbol have been experimentally observed up to the time. In the case of
Lyman series, 911.269A,... 926.226(*), 930.748(*), 937.803(*),
949.743(*), 972.537(*), 1025.722(*), 1215.668(*). If someone already
observed the wavelengths without (*) symbol, try to observe the Pfund
series, 22781.2A, ... 28714.5, 3.375.6, 32952.1, 37385.4, 46525.1(*),
74578.0(*) etc. According to Dr. Yoon's theory on the hydrogen
spectrum, for Lyman series the bombarding electrons must have a
frequency of longitudinal oscillation resonant to the frequency of
'orbital electron rings' with radial parameter gamma= 1 in order them
to oscillate without destructing it. The energy capacity of orbital
electron ring with radial parameter gamma = 1 that emits Lyman series
of hydrogen spectrum is at least 1295 times greater than the electron
ring with radial parameter gamma=6 that emits Humphrey series. This is
just an example of scientific facts among many breakthroughs in Dr.
Yoon's book.

Dr. Yoon also proved that the light is not a flow of photons in Part
II, Chapter 5(www.yoonsatom.net).
Many people seem to be very ignorant of the breadth and depth of Dr.
Yoon's new physics, at these days. newedana wrote what learned from Dr.
Yoon's "Natural Science Founded on A New Atomic Model".

In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics, "If we arrange these 6 sets
of hydrogen spectra on an energy scale based on their wavelengths, we
find an energy interval between each set of these spectral series, as
shown in Fig.5-5-1, and table 5-2 (a map of spectral series). It
signifies that there exists an energy gap(barrier) between each set of
spectra. The largest energy gap is found between Lyman and Balmer
series, the secondary larger gab is between Balmer and Ritz-Paschen
series and no energy gap between Ritz-Paschen and Brackett series.
After Brackett series, we find that their spectral series turn out to
overlap with one another, and the overlapping zone becomes
progressively broader and broader".
He explains for this finding that when the radius of orbital electron
ring expands to be out of the size of emitting Ritz-Paschen and
Brackett series, it can take up electromagnetic radiations without
frequency choice. That is why the spectra emitted by these orbital
electron rings has like a continuous pattern, and any kind of mass
bodies can takes up heat radiation without wavelength choice. He
explains further that as the orbital electron ring shrinks to be
shorter and shorter in reverse, the energy gap increases to be greater
and greater to be reciprocally in proportional to 4 powers of its
radius, and it takes up radiation energy selectively by frequency
choice. It is concerned to directly to black body radiation. And that
is why orbital electron ring becomes increasingly difficult to approach
its nucleus. He assumed that this energy barrier originates to the
restructuring the texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes
produced by orbital electron rings, as it changes its orbital radius;
the shorter the radius of electron ring the greater the energy input
for the restructuring its electromagnetic force fluxes. When the shrunk
orbital electron ring expands its radius it has to emit reversely this
energy it absorbed. This fact is closely related with atomic fission
and fusion energy. Atomic energy has nothing to do with the stupid
equation, E=mc^2.

"newedana" wrote in message
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In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics, "If we arrange these 6 sets
of hydrogen spectra on an energy scale based on their wavelengths, we
find an energy interval between each set of these spectral series, as
shown in Fig.5-5-1, and table 5-2 (a map of spectral series). It
signifies that there exists an energy gap(barrier) between each set of
spectra. The largest energy gap is found between Lyman and Balmer
series, the secondary larger gab is between Balmer and Ritz-Paschen
series and no energy gap between Ritz-Paschen and Brackett series.
After Brackett series, we find that their spectral series turn out to
overlap with one another, and the overlapping zone becomes
progressively broader and broader".
He explains for this finding that when the radius of orbital electron
ring expands to be out of the size of emitting Ritz-Paschen and
Brackett series, it can take up electromagnetic radiations without
frequency choice. That is why the spectra emitted by these orbital
electron rings has like a continuous pattern, and any kind of mass
bodies can takes up heat radiation without wavelength choice. He
explains further that as the orbital electron ring shrinks to be
shorter and shorter in reverse, the energy gap increases to be greater
and greater to be reciprocally in proportional to 4 powers of its
radius, and it takes up radiation energy selectively by frequency
choice. It is concerned to directly to black body radiation. And that
is why orbital electron ring becomes increasingly difficult to approach
its nucleus. He assumed that this energy barrier originates to the
restructuring the texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes
produced by orbital electron rings,

'texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes'? When you can express your
ideas coherently then we may have something to discuss.

Bill

as it changes its orbital radius;
the shorter the radius of electron ring the greater the energy input
for the restructuring its electromagnetic force fluxes. When the shrunk
orbital electron ring expands its radius it has to emit reversely this
energy it absorbed. This fact is closely related with atomic fission
and fusion energy. Atomic energy has nothing to do with the stupid
equation, E=mc^2.

newedana wrote:

In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics,
[snip crap]

Purest bull****. Crap spewing like a fountain.

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newedana wrote:
In page 64~65 of Dr.Yoon's New Physics, "If we arrange these 6 sets
of hydrogen spectra on an energy scale based on their wavelengths, we
find an energy interval between each set of these spectral series, as
shown in Fig.5-5-1, and table 5-2 (a map of spectral series). It
signifies that there exists an energy gap(barrier) between each set
of
spectra. The largest energy gap is found between Lyman and Balmer
series, the secondary larger gab is between Balmer and Ritz-Paschen
series and no energy gap between Ritz-Paschen and Brackett series.
After Brackett series, we find that their spectral series turn out to
overlap with one another, and the overlapping zone becomes
progressively broader and broader".
He explains for this finding that when the radius of orbital
electron
ring expands to be out of the size of emitting Ritz-Paschen and
Brackett series, it can take up electromagnetic radiations without
frequency choice. That is why the spectra emitted by these orbital
electron rings has like a continuous pattern, and any kind of mass
bodies can takes up heat radiation without wavelength choice. He
explains further that as the orbital electron ring shrinks to be
shorter and shorter in reverse, the energy gap increases to be
greater
and greater to be reciprocally in proportional to 4 powers of its
radius, and it takes up radiation energy selectively by frequency
choice. It is concerned to directly to black body radiation. And that
is why orbital electron ring becomes increasingly difficult to
approach
its nucleus. He assumed that this energy barrier originates to the
restructuring the texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes
produced by orbital electron rings, as it changes its orbital radius;
the shorter the radius of electron ring the greater the energy input
for the restructuring its electromagnetic force fluxes. When the
shrunk
orbital electron ring expands its radius it has to emit reversely
this
energy it absorbed. This fact is closely related with atomic fission
and fusion energy. Atomic energy has nothing to do with the stupid
equation, E=mc^2.

Hi Newedana,

How did your Dr. Yoon explain Black Body Radiation? What is the
mechanism that prevented Ultraviolet Catastrophe since you guys
don't believe in Planck when he said that it is not possible for
an oscillator to absorb and emit energy in a continuous range and
it must gain and lose energy discontinuously, in small indivisible
units of e = h f, which Planck called "energy quanta".

So do you guys believe it is continuous? If so, why is the high
frequency in the em waves prevented from forming avoiding the so
called ultraviolet catastrophe in black body radiation?

Going to atomic dynamics. Classical laws says that revolving
electron would radiate away its energy and collapse into the
nucleus. Granted your magnetic field induced in the electron
electric field tails (lagging effect) through some unknown
mechanism can repel the nucleus in a kinda of modified Meissner
like effect attributing for its stability similar to the
de_broglie standing waves holding the orbitals, how do
you account for the fact the your continuously revolving electron
and charge never radiate or lose the energy? If classical
laws is right. It should radiate and the magnetic field induced
at the electric field tail should diminish in power since
the electron decelerates until the electron just collapse into
the nucleus. What prevented it??

Pls. don't miss answering the separate inquiries here, the Black
body explanation and the revolving electron puzzle according to
the world of Dr. Yoon.

zhayne

The quantum oscillator( atomic model whose orbital electron is
explained with Schrodinger equation) takes up any photons without
conditions. For example, it can take up U.V., visible, I.R photons and
even x-ray photons without any discrimination of their frequency,
coincidence of their oscillatory wave phases, and incoming
directionality of em and etc. However, Dr. Yoon's atomic model does not
allow such a blind absorption of em wave energy. It requires 4
conditions in order to increase its energy level by taking up external
em wave energy. 1) The electron ring has to have resonant frequency to
that of incoming em; the same or integer multiple frequency relation
between them. 2) Provided that first condition is fulfilled, there must
exist an energy gradient between the orbital electron ring and incoming
em, in terms of their oscillatory amplitudes. 3) Provided that the
first and second conditions are satisfied, the oscillatory direction of
orbital electron ring must have a favorable angle against the
preceeding direction of incoming em for the effective energy exchange
between them. 4) Provided further that the first, second and third
conditions are fulfilled, the orbital electron ring has to have
coincidental oscillatory phase with that of incoming em. Otherwise
there occurs a considerable destructive phase interference between
them. These 4 conditions are needed strictly in order to explain the
black body radiation, as well as the mechanism of forming laser light.
(explanation of laser light by QM theory is totally false). If the
probability of satisfying condition 1) by an electron ring exposed in a
continuous spectrum is P(1), the probability for condition 2), P(2),
the probability for condition 3), P(3), and the final probability for
condition 4), P(4), then total probability P to satisfy all the five
conditions becomes, P=P(1)P(2)P(3)P(4). It signifies that an orbital
electron ring is very difficult to have successively a lucky chance to
meet a favorable em from which it can take up energy, and the same is
in the reverse case when an electron ring has the worst chance to meet
the favorable em from which it can also take up energy. Consequently
the other group of atomic electron rings distributes between these two
extreme cases. Thus the energy taken up by orbital electron rings by
frequency wise, would draw a curve that has indeed a marked resemblance
to that obtained from maxwell's distribution law. This is the
explanation of black body radiation as well as avoiding ultraviolet
catastrophe.

Going to atomic dynamics. Classical laws says that revolving
electron would radiate away its energy and collapse into the
nucleus. Granted your magnetic field induced in the electron
electric field tails (lagging effect) through some unknown
mechanism can repel the nucleus in a kinda of modified Meissner
like effect attributing for its stability similar to the
de_broglie standing waves holding the orbitals, how do
you account for the fact the your continuously revolving electron
and charge never radiate or lose the energy? If classical
laws is right. It should radiate and the magnetic field induced
at the electric field tail should diminish in power since
the electron decelerates until the electron just collapse into
the nucleus. What prevented it??

Revolving electron is not an oscillatory motion, so it does not emit
energy, as though the earth revolving around the sun does not lose its
kinetic energy. Oscillation means the energy oscillation between two
forms of energies commutable, for example, between kinetic and
potential energy, or between electric and magnetic energy. Thus there
occurs no energy oscillation between its electric and magnetic energies
of revolving electron around its nucleus. As mentioned previously, Dr.
Yoon's electron ring never merges into its nucleus, because the energy
barrier between each step of its radial reduction increases
reciprocally in proportional to 4 powers of its radial parameter. Its
texturized electric and magnetic force fluxes (magnetic force fluxes
are always induced on perpendicular planes of electric force fluxes)
have to be restructured as the electron ring changes its radius. This
is the origin of energy barrier. newedana