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Do We Have The Political Will To Support Bush's Moon/Mars Exploration Program?
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"Cardman" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:57:03 -0400, wrote: Yes Or No? Yes...so far. President Bush seems strongly in favour, where he even made threats to the Senate if NASA's requested funding was not approved. The Senate recently approved a $16.4 billion budget for NASA by a vote of 91 to 4. Once the next President takes office, where large scale funding reductions will need to take place to pay back Bush's debts, then this strong support may quickly change. Time will tell. Cardman. Yes, because any other President who comes in after Bush will realize that NASA has one of two choices for directions now and into the future; moon, mars and beyond or getting rid of manned spaceflight because its a waste to simply orbit the earth for the next 30 years, so yes we will have the will to do one of these choices. I dont think the US, reguardless of who becomes President in the future, will be stupid enough to cancel manned spaceflight, so we will be going to moon, mars and beyond and supporting it in the future. Ray |
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In article QNfXe.5332$i86.4869@trndny01, Ray wrote:
"Cardman" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:57:03 -0400, wrote: Yes Or No? Yes...so far. President Bush seems strongly in favour, where he even made threats to the Senate if NASA's requested funding was not approved. The Senate recently approved a $16.4 billion budget for NASA by a vote of 91 to 4. Once the next President takes office, where large scale funding reductions will need to take place to pay back Bush's debts, then this strong support may quickly change. Time will tell. Cardman. Yes, because any other President who comes in after Bush will realize that NASA has one of two choices for directions now and into the future; moon, mars and beyond or getting rid of manned spaceflight because its a waste to simply orbit the earth for the next 30 years, so yes we will have the will to do one of these choices. I dont think the US, reguardless of who becomes President in the future, will be stupid enough to cancel manned spaceflight, so we will be going to moon, mars and beyond and supporting it in the future. The POTUS has to bear in mind the possible cost to his or her chances of re-election: Option Cost Moon and Mars Lots of $ at a time when the US is living off its credit, plus the potential to high-light gold old American Don't Know How. Burkina Faso managed to fly just as many space stations in the 1980s as the US and at a much lower cost. Cancel Program A million engineers crying out and then suddenly becoming unemployed. A passel of angry pork managers gunning for the POTUS. Same old same old Nothing that isn't already happening. Gentlemen, prepare your Power Point Presentations. -- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/ http://www.livejournal.com/users/james_nicoll |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:57:03 -0400, wrote:
Yes Or No? No. Take it to the bank. -- Roy L |
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Have to - because the small fry are now catching up to NASA and the gummint.
Pretty soon people will actually be making GOOD money out of the commercial exploitation of space. This will make the existing Military-Industrial complex very very ****ed off, because they can no longer control and squash any entrepreneurial ventures into space. They are already more than a little peeved and fighting back. But, they are now also in battle with the Chinese and Europeans, as well as small energetic new style corporations. NO fricken way will they tolerate a Chinese or EU flag on Mars.... The old guard will have to move very fast and cheap soon, or they will disappear. This will cause much disturbance in the pork-barrelled and lobbied belts. And will even adversely effect certain groups of Virginia Farmers... wrote in message ... Yes Or No? |
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... Yes Or No? We'll get a moon program unless the US goes bankrupt which is a possibility. I'm reluctant to think of any Mars program as a Bush program. If 30 years from now a President decides to send people to Mars, what does that have to do with Bush? You could just as easily call it a Carl Sagan program. One way to kill NASA manned space flight is to cancel ISS and the lunar program, give the green light to a Mars mission, but under fund it. |
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Ray wrote:
Yes, because any other President who comes in after Bush will realize that NASA has one of two choices for directions now and into the future; moon, mars and beyond or getting rid of manned spaceflight because its a waste to simply orbit the earth for the next 30 years, so yes we will have the will to do one of these choices. I dont think the US, reguardless of who becomes President in the future, will be stupid enough to cancel manned spaceflight, so we will be going to moon, mars and beyond and supporting it in the future. A future congress might be indebted enough to cacnel it though. Ray -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:34:08 GMT, "Ray" wrote:
I dont think the US, reguardless of who becomes President in the future, will be stupid enough to cancel manned spaceflight, so we will be going to moon, mars and beyond and supporting it in the future. Yes, I've heard that n opresident wants to be the one to go down in history to kill NASA. But then maybe no president has found a way to spin that into a good thing. However -- and I'm just thinking this as I type this -- if Mr. Griffin carries through on selecting a CEV contractor next March and gets the thing on a fast track to development, then by the time of the 2008 election, we could be very close to putting it in production and begin training astronauts in simulators for it. So even if Mr. Bush's successor isn't all fired up over Moon and Mars, hopefully he or she will want to keep the CEV in production and do SOMETHING with it. The again, I could be wrong. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:55:15 -0400, Michael Gallagher
wrote: Yes, I've heard that n opresident wants to be the one to go down in history to kill NASA. But then maybe no president has found a way to spin that into a good thing. However -- and I'm just thinking this as I type this -- if Mr. Griffin carries through on selecting a CEV contractor next March and gets the thing on a fast track to development, then by the time of the 2008 election, we could be very close to putting it in production and begin training astronauts in simulators for it. So even if Mr. Bush's successor isn't all fired up over Moon and Mars, hopefully he or she will want to keep the CEV in production and do SOMETHING with it. The again, I could be wrong. It is interesting to note that when NASA and Bush first put forwards this Moon and beyond plan, then the expected budget increase would be small, and where this one CEV would be EELV launched. Naturally, some of us could soon spot issues with that plan. So this early plan was just a deception. These days, from my count, then NASA is now wanting all of five new vehicles. This then creates an issue, when missing any of these five vehicles then means that the Moon is not easily possible. The five naturally are... Earth Launch CEV Space Based CEV CLV SDHLV Lunar Lander This is certainly a nice collection, but at $25 to $30 billion to build it is awfully expensive. The cost to operate this system also remains to be seen. Cardman. |
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