Venus rotation

On Jan 3, 5:13 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/3/10 1:50 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:



Sam, when a volcano erupts a lot of liquid water is converted to steam,
and steam has a lower density than water, therefore the Earth's density
decreases, but we're not loosing too much mass (apart from boiling off
the upper atmosphere), hence the volume increases, but if you want
you can ignore sunamis that kill a 100,000 people and chalk that up
to 'bad luck', and forget about geological science, like all the rest.

The steam condenses into what and falls in the ocean. The mass of the
earth and it's average density remain fairly constant. You should have
continued past the 4th grade... there was a lot of good basic stuff in
the very next grade... and right up through graduate school.

I wonder about a huge amount of methane that was trapped at Earth's
formation. I suppose that stuff (CH4) is liquid then expands to
become
CO2 + 2 H2O ongoing when oxidized in air, by lightning.
Recall our solar system has alot of methane, would you call that a
fossil fuel?
Ken
PS: I think I dropped out in Gr.1, that's when I started thinking for
myself,
most people never get off the conveyor belt, just eat the pablum.

On 1/3/10 9:09 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

Recall our solar system has a lot of methane, would you call that's
a fossil fuel?

We use methane in our home to heat water, cook with and heat
our home in the winter. Ours is a fossil fuel as opposed to
a renewable resource such as landfill gas or cow farts.

On Jan 3, 6:54*pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

Have you studied steam, heres a table in a benign region of Temp and
Pressure...

No, I haven't specifically studied steam, as far as I recall, but I am
familiar with the concepts of different states at different pressures
and temperatures... but what does this have to do with steam that is
being released by volcanoes, which would then soon be at standard temp
and pressure?

What we do know are thermal vents in the ocean bottom, thousands
of them are adding water to the oceans.
Solids can be compacted, under pressure, that's how implosion
makes Pu bombs supercritical.
Maybe they don't really work that way.
Ken

Thermal vents add water to the ocean, but the ocean is just part of
the earth.What's the point here? Other vents at mid oceanic ridges
also add magma in the form of lava to the surface of the sea floor,
but at the same time portions of the sea floor disappear under
continental plates in an action known as subduction. It still seems to
me that the whole process is more-or-less at equilibrium at any given
time.

I'm not sure that I would compare the compaction of materials deep
within the earth to the fusion of materials in a bomb and expect to
come to any particular conclusion, these are very different
processes...

\Paul A

On 1/3/2010 7:26 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/3/10 9:09 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

Recall our solar system has a lot of methane, would you call that's
a fossil fuel?

We use methane in our home to heat water, cook with and heat
our home in the winter. Ours is a fossil fuel as opposed to
a renewable resource such as landfill gas or cow farts.

So what about the massive amounts of methane detected on Mars
and renewing itself continuously?

Is that fossil fuel, landfill gas, cow farts, or Martian belches?

On Jan 3, 7:26 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/3/10 9:09 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

Recall our solar system has a lot of methane, would you call that's
a fossil fuel?

We use methane in our home to heat water, cook with and heat
our home in the winter. Ours is a fossil fuel as opposed to
a renewable resource such as landfill gas or cow farts.

I guess our friend Sammy will now find a ref to convince use that
the methane oceans on Titan are from dead dinosaurs, now you
know why I dropped out in Gr.1!
Ken

On 1/3/10 10:00 PM, Thad Floryan wrote:


So what about the massive amounts of methane detected on Mars
and renewing itself continuously?

Massive amounts or trace amounts?

[ ] Martian volcanic activity

[ ] Martian biological activity

[ ] Martian source that will be a surprise for scientists

On 1/3/10 10:06 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Jan 3, 7:26 pm, Sam wrote:
On 1/3/10 9:09 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

Recall our solar system has a lot of methane, would you call that's
a fossil fuel?

We use methane in our home to heat water, cook with and heat
our home in the winter. Ours is a fossil fuel as opposed to
a renewable resource such as landfill gas or cow farts.

I guess our friend Sammy will now find a ref to convince use that
the methane oceans on Titan are from dead dinosaurs, now you
know why I dropped out in Gr.1!
Ken

If you install antenna rotators that don't fail, you are probably
smart enough to know there are many sources of methane.

Thad Floryan wrote:
On 1/3/2010 7:26 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/3/10 9:09 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

Recall our solar system has a lot of methane, would you call that's
a fossil fuel?
We use methane in our home to heat water, cook with and heat
our home in the winter. Ours is a fossil fuel as opposed to
a renewable resource such as landfill gas or cow farts.

So what about the massive amounts of methane detected on Mars
and renewing itself continuously?

Is that fossil fuel, landfill gas, cow farts, or Martian belches?

Tiny Martian sand fleas.

On Jan 3, 8:33 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/3/10 10:06 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

On Jan 3, 7:26 pm, Sam wrote:
On 1/3/10 9:09 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:

Recall our solar system has a lot of methane, would you call that's
a fossil fuel?

We use methane in our home to heat water, cook with and heat
our home in the winter. Ours is a fossil fuel as opposed to
a renewable resource such as landfill gas or cow farts.

I guess our friend Sammy will now find a ref to convince use that
the methane oceans on Titan are from dead dinosaurs, now you
know why I dropped out in Gr.1!
Ken

If you install antenna rotators that don't fail, you are probably
smart enough to know there are many sources of methane.

Sammy me boy, we're currently sitting beside Alberta that pours
out $Billions of Natural Gas, you may be right, it could be fossil.
But something I find intriguing, is that all around the Canadian
Shield are huge petro fields.
The Shield is 2,3,4 billion years old made of granite maybe 10's
or 100's of miles thick, sitting like a cap over most of Canada,
that retains so much petro energy, it makes the Saudi's look
like a sissy ****er.
Within the Earth, CH4 fuses to form stuff like Heptane (C7H16)
and Octane, given heat, pressure and time. Drilling the Shield
is a bit pricey, but I figure it has a 1000x Saudi reserves.

That said, we're also pro-nuclear, solar, wind and hydro etc.
Love
Lynne & Ken

On 1/3/2010 8:31 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/3/10 10:00 PM, Thad Floryan wrote:
[...]
So what about the massive amounts of methane detected on Mars
and renewing itself continuously?

Massive amounts or trace amounts?

Earth-based telescopes are detecting it and the claim has been made
its presence in Mars' atmosphere is being renewed since otherwise it'd
dissipate and disappear. That doesn't sound like "trace" to me.

[ ] Martian volcanic activity

There appears to be no active volcanos presently on Mars per:

http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/volcanoes/planet_volcano/mars/Overview.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_vulcanism_041222.html

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_Mars_have_any_active_volcanoes

http://www.mahalo.com/answers/science-and-mathematics/does-mars-have-an-active-volcano

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=2692

and the orbiting satellites.


[ ] Martian biological activity

[ ] Martian source that will be a surprise for scientists

Unfortunately neither of those two list items can be determined
until a full lab(s) is/are funded and landed/operated on Mars.